URGENT - TASHA WAS STOLEN

[The Original Kao]

If the dog was supposed to be going to a foster home to be assessed, how did she end up being picked up by a complete stranger? Surely every fosterer would be a known person who'd been home checked etc as suitable to take on and assess a strange dog? Or does the 'rescue' just hand dogs over to anyone without knowing if they'll really be in a suitable place?

Taken from the FB info page:

'We collect the dogs from the docks and take them to a foster home to be fully assesed before being found a suitable home.'

 

[Caledonia]

Taken from the FB info page:

'We collect the dogs from the docks and take them to a foster home to be fully assesed before being found a suitable home.'

Same 5hit different species ......

 

[AmyMay]

This actually makes my blood boil.

How in God's name are these dogs getting in to this country?

What about quarantine, apart from anything else.

Oh, and how much is this organisation charging the new owner for their new pet???????

I am completely appalled!

 

[Amaranta]

Oh my word, dogs instead of horses this time, this dealer really knows how to make money out of the gullable

 

[MurphysMinder]

Echo everyone else, there are more than enough dogs in this country in need of rescue, absolutely no need to bring in from abroad. I would be very concerned about the risk of infection being brought in, if this dealer is involved what are the chances of corners being cut. The fact that a total stranger could take Tasha proves they are not exactly being careful. I hope the poor dog is safe and well wherever she is.

 

[Caledonia]

There is some really dubious stuff out there about this transporter - he's seemingly not registered, has no website .......

 

[The Original Kao]

There is some really dubious stuff out there about this transporter - he's seemingly not registered, has no website .......

it just gets better and better doesn't it? *facepalm*

 

[CorvusCorax]

So this is just a bloke with a van bringing dogs into the country and handing them over to people?! Jeez

 

[piebaldsparkle]

Is it any flaming wonder we now have to worry about Heartworm...............few years back it was unheard of in the UK dog population. What's next?? Rabies??? Never mind as long as some shysters make a fast buck and some gullible dupes get the warm fluffy feeling............who gives a shite about the trail of misery left in the wake.

 

[Hairy Old Cob]

This should be BANNED and STOPPED NOW I believe their is Rabies in parts of Romania thye dogs should be euthanised in Romania this Country is Just becoming a DUSTBIN.

 

[GoodysMummy]

looks like someone just got found out...

 

[Cuffey]

This should be BANNED and STOPPED NOW I believe their is Rabies in parts of Romania thye dogs should be euthanised in Romania this Country is Just becoming a DUSTBIN.

You are correct--young girl bitten by stray dog died of rabies
http://www.necn.com/03/06/12/5-year...n.html?&apID=9242f7753085414ea8342900c1e76e74

In Rumania it is mainly foxes that carry rabies

 

[AmyMay]

Costs for bringing dog in to the country and re-homing is £480.

Transport is apparently registered with DEFRA......

 

[alfiemum]

Taken from the FB info page:
Once again, this is a “Unincorporated Association”
anyone have any idea what that means?

 

[alfiemum]

ah I’ve found the answer myself and it was obvious really……!

‘Unincorporated associations do not need to register with or be regulated by either Companies House or the Financial Services Authority. They enjoy greater freedom of operation than a company. For example, they don't have to submit annual returns’

 

[Archangel]

How much of that £480 do we think goes to the UK rescue who handles the 'fostering' and home checking of the dog? Why do UK rescues get mixed up with this when they are already overstretched?

I can see it does tug on the heart strings, but they way 'disabled' dogs and now 'disabled' cats are being pushed makes my rather cynical.

I bet you a tin of chappie that the dogs never see a UK rescue and are handed over at motorway service stations

ETS - they may be going to very good homes of course, but it all looks a bit fishy

 

[AmyMay]

This is how it's apparently broken down:

• Defra approved transporter used.

• It costs approx £330 to bring the dogs back to UK. £230 of this is travel costs

• Rehoming fee is £150 returnable if the dog is re-homed

 

[Archangel]

Thanks AmyMay.

 

[Bearsmum]

I saw some weeks ago (when looking for a dog for a friend) that a local rescue was advertising Romanian dogs to be rehomed. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is appalled / confused by this practice, bearing in mind the number of lovely unwanted dogs in this country.

Sorry but I for one will not support this charity again.

http://www.hillside.org.uk/HillsideDogRescue_000.htm

 

[piebaldsparkle]

I saw some weeks ago (when looking for a dog for a friend) that a local rescue was advertising Romanian dogs to be rehomed. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is appalled / confused by this practice, bearing in mind the number of lovely unwanted dogs in this country.

Sorry but I for one will not support this charity again.

http://www.hillside.org.uk/HillsideDogRescue_000.htm

I am baffled as to why they would be doing this, and have lost all respect for them.

 

[Lochinvar]

To all of you who are 'baffled' and 'have lost respect' can I ask have you ever supported the Brooke, the Donkey Sanctuary, the Red Cross or Live Aid (and similar) maybe International Fund for Animals.... if yes, then you have all already helped people and animals in other countries... are you still baffled, have you lost respect for yourself?

As for the ones mentioning disabled dogs and cats, only 80 years ago disabled people were locked away and left to die as it was not considered that their life could be worth anything. Have you heard of evolution??? OOh and SCIENCE............. times they are 'a-changing' people and whilst I appreciate that most people are change averse that is not going to stop progress and humanity.

Do you watch the adverts asking for help in Ethiopa and think these children are not worth saving because they will have no quality of life? Does that extend to blind people as well.....

Your views are hideous and quite vile, I always wonder if you truly love animals at all........... that you are only prepared to help your own country? Most of the people involved in Romanian rescue also fund raise tirelessly for UK groups... I am talking boot sales, cake sales, fun runs, come dine with me's in their own homes and they do this several times a month. Those of you who have lost RESPECT please feel free to post on here what you currently do for the UK charities you are so concerned about.

Seriously, you all need to have a good look at yourselves.......... it aint pretty, nno no no, not pretty at all.

Enjoy your day, no doubt you are conscience free and feel on top of the world, have you fed and exercised all your rescue animals, spent some time with them to show how loved they are. I wish you all happy and healthy lives, suvh a shame you cant find it in yourselves to wish the same for other people and animals.

Churlish and uncharitable............ sound familiar, it should do as thats how you all sound.

 

[Tormenta]

Reading through the posts it seems the concern is the risks of taking these dogs into Britain and also quite rightly that the rescues here are desperate for homes for dogs, many dogs are put to sleep each year through lack of homes.

The objection doesn't seem to be that they are dogs who are Romanian. As people have suggested, like the charities you mentioned, why not concentrate on helping the dogs in their country? Removing a few to here will not solve or improve the problem at it's source.

 

[Bearsmum]

Lochinvar, I think yo have completely missed the point, I have no objection whatsoever in helping animals (or humans for that matter) in other countries, in fact it is why I donate to World Horse Wellfare, the clue is in the title.

What I object to is money being wasted bringing unwanted dogs into this country when we have a big enough problem of our own. Yes treat the animals abroad, yes spay and neuter them, but please do not bring them here to risk disease and add to our population.

I do not consider my views 'vile and hideous' and yes I do feel on top of the world and have a very clear conscience - in addition to helping animal charities my fundraising total for Help for Heroes over the last 18 months is nearly £5K.

JD

 

[Hells Bells]

To all of you who are 'baffled' and 'have lost respect' can I ask have you ever supported the Brooke, the Donkey Sanctuary, the Red Cross or Live Aid (and similar) maybe International Fund for Animals.... if yes, then you have all already helped people and animals in other countries... are you still baffled, have you lost respect for yourself?

The other charities you listed help through education and support. I most certainly have not lost respect for myself, and I will continue to support charities that do so.

As for the ones mentioning disabled dogs and cats, only 80 years ago disabled people were locked away and left to die as it was not considered that their life could be worth anything. Have you heard of evolution??? OOh and SCIENCE............. times they are 'a-changing' people and whilst I appreciate that most people are change averse that is not going to stop progress and humanity.

Whilst I don't agree that it is nice to see animals suffering, you bring up evolution here, which is, in its most basic form 'survival of the fittest' so your argument 'have you ever heard of evolution' can be used to quash your own point there I'm afraid.

Change averse? Most certainly not! If I could find a way of stopping all suffering across the world, of course I would want to stop it, but that will never happen.

Your views are hideous and quite vile, I always wonder if you truly love animals at all........... that you are only prepared to help your own country? Most of the people involved in Romanian rescue also fund raise tirelessly for UK groups... I am talking boot sales, cake sales, fun runs, come dine with me's in their own homes and they do this several times a month. Those of you who have lost RESPECT please feel free to post on here what you currently do for the UK charities you are so concerned about.

LISTEN TO YOURSELF!! What about those people who adore animals but are living on the poverty lines themselves? Are they cruel, hideous and vile because they have to put their own needs first in order to survive? Good for you for doing all that work, but do not assume everyone else therefore is a bad person. Look at the millions of pounds Children in Need, Comic Relief, Sports Relief etc raise every year- you say people do not give?

Enjoy your day, no doubt you are conscience free and feel on top of the world, have you fed and exercised all your rescue animals, spent some time with them to show how loved they are. I wish you all happy and healthy lives, suvh a shame you cant find it in yourselves to wish the same for other people and animals.

Churlish and uncharitable............ sound familiar, it should do as thats how you all sound.

Not everybody can afford to look after rescue animals. But so many people try their best to help charities where they can. I whole heartedly disagree with importing animals from overseas, when there are so many in need of homes themselves. I think it is irresponsible and simply shifting the same problem from one country to another. Perhaps you could do the decent thing yourself and go over there and try to fix the problem...you obviously don't care that much if you are willing to take the time to write that post instead of going to save the dying animals and people

Do you watch the adverts asking for help in Ethiopa and think these children are not worth saving because they will have no quality of life? Does that extend to blind people as well......

Out of interest, what do you suggest we do? Bring all the Ethiopians over here and try and re-home them? I don't think you can put people and animals on the same level here, I'm sorry. Of course none of us enjoy seeing those people suffering. But look how much money people raise trying to help. How much do you give to these causes? I am surprised you can afford a computer with all the donations you must give.

 

[Lochinvar]

Goodness Hells Bells what a reaction...............

Incidentally, I do live on the poverty line due to the donations I give but do not mind at all. Your comment about me having a computer is childish and ruined your points entirely I am afraid................

So glad you are conscience free, perhaps you can let others do as they wish to help animals and not tear them to pieces for it. I am sure we would not agree with half of what you do but for the venom shown on previous posts towards someone who has lost a dog and is heart broken was cruel and unnecessary but fairly typical of the bullying you see so often on social media sites now, i try and remember that these bullies were probably victims themselves at some time and they do say behaviour repeats itself.... badly treated children so often badly treat their own children....

Enjoy your day Ladies............... ♥

 

[Hells Bells]

Lochinvar, I have absolutely no issue with supporting animal charities. I do so myself. The issue I have hear is firstly the importing of animals that we as a country have nowhere to put, and secondly the way you assume everyone on this thread is against animal welfare or charities in general just because they don't agree with you.

I am absolutely comfortable with my stance on this.

And FWIW, my parents raised me wonderfully, and I too try to raise my children well.

 

[mulledwhine]

I have no problem with bringing the dogs over here.

However, I gave a huge problem with the scant disregard, to them disregarding all of the quarantine laws, and think the must be reported immediatly

 

[Lochinvar]

I am not sure where you got that info but the dogs are all passported and have the necessary vaccines etc

 

[Littlelegs]

In an ideal world its lovely to bring the unwanted dogs over & rehome them. But dogs here are pts through lack of homes, so surely the huge costs of importing them could be better spent treating them in their own country & if necessary pts. There are only so many potential homes available in the uk, so surely it makes most sense to rehome the uks strays first & use the money saved on importing to treat the animals in their own home. Nothing to do with them being from another country or disabled, just a simple case of where the money can do the most good. For the cost of importing & quarantine for large numbers, I'm sure that a rescue centre & sanctuary in Romania could be set up & ran.
As for human charities, we long ago realised that giving people the means as a community to support themselves was of more benefit than providing food & shelter for a few. Which is the equivalent to me of the choice between helping in Romania or importing here.

 

[ester]

Firstly I am baffled that the organisation is so woolly (for want of a better word) that the dog was handed over to this person.

To all of you who are 'baffled' and 'have lost respect' can I ask have you ever supported the Brooke, the Donkey Sanctuary, the Red Cross or Live Aid (and similar) maybe International Fund for Animals.... if yes, then you have all already helped people and animals in other countries... are you still baffled, have you lost respect for yourself?
Yes they help animals internationally, the important difference being that they are not using funds importing them

As for the ones mentioning disabled dogs and cats, only 80 years ago disabled people were locked away and left to die as it was not considered that their life could be worth anything. Have you heard of evolution??? That is the most bizarre definition/use of the term evolution I have ever heard
OOh and SCIENCE............. times they are 'a-changing' people and whilst I appreciate that most people are change averse that is not going to stop progress and humanity. Times have always been changing, I don't see what this sentence has to do with the importation of rescue dogs from other countries, I don't see how that is progress and I don't think anybody has suggest that you can 'stop' humanity, whatever stopping humanity means

Do you watch the adverts asking for help in Ethiopa and think these children are not worth saving because they will have no quality of life? Does that extend to blind people as well.....
see now, if we really wanted to we could speak evolution, or at least population control. In Africa there are many countries (even without the associated government corruption) who do not have sufficient resources to support their current population numbers, insufficient rain/crops etc. If this were to be any other species there would be a subsequent natural reduction in population numbers. However, partly because we are humans and tend towards thinking that we are rather more important than other species the automatic reaction is to try and halt this. Regardless I think this is still rather off topic of dogs!

Your views are hideous and quite vile just a slight generalisation there then, I always wonder if you truly love animals at all........... that you are only prepared to help your own country? Most of the people involved in Romanian rescue also fund raise tirelessly for UK groups... I am talking boot sales, cake sales, fun runs, come dine with me's in their own homes and they do this several times a month. Those of you who have lost RESPECT please feel free to post on here what you currently do for the UK charities you are so concerned about.

Seriously, you all need to have a good look at yourselves.......... it aint pretty, nno no no, not pretty at all. and again

Enjoy your day, no doubt you are conscience free and feel on top of the world, have you fed and exercised all your rescue animals, spent some time with them to show how loved they are. I wish you all happy and healthy lives, suvh a shame you cant find it in yourselves to wish the same for other people and animals.

Churlish and uncharitable............ sound familiar, it should do as thats how you all sound.

am very pleased to hear that all dogs were passported and vaccinated .

However I do think there is a simple equation of supply and demand, these dogs are potentially taking homes from dogs already in need of them in this country. . . how can anybody decide which dogs are more 'deserving'