Urinary ishoos

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Have left Ricoh at the vets today to have a contrast dye and x-ray taken to check function of bladder, urethra, prostate etc., house feels very empty and Dax is moping about. :(

About a month ago he wet the bed in his sleep, I think leaking gradually throughout the night judging by the wet patch, and continued to leak for another couple of hours the following morning - just a few drops here and there, mostly when lying down, persisting after he'd been taken out for a wee.

He'd stopped by that afternoon when we went to the vet who checked for infection anyway (clear), no crystals, normal dilution, no diabetes etc. Goes without saying that he'd had a good pee last thing and again first thing, no change in routine.

He's been dry since until Tuesday when I went to take him out for a walk and he just started peeing everywhere without cocking his leg, walking along with it gushing out of him as if he had no awareness he was doing it. He does often pee on his front legs so I thought nothing more of it, until we'd been back in the house for about half an hour and I looked up to see him walking around the kitchen doing the same, despite only just having been out and peed loads. Again he seemed to have no awareness of doing it and I had to shove him in the yard until he'd stopped. He leaked a few drops that evening and the next morning but was again dry by the afternoon and has been ever since.

Vet is stumped, apparently this 'just doesn't happen in young male dogs' and we cannot understand why it's so intermittent, you'd expect incontinence to be continual leakage. Not expecting much from the procedure today as if it was a congenital problem it ought to have shown up before now (he's two and a half). He was neutered at ten months so not astonishingly early and, again, hormone related incontinence is usually the preserve of bitches. There is a huge volume of very pale wee despite him not drinking any more than usual.

Any more ideas? :(

Poor Dax is going to have a shock this afternoon when I drag her out to a second training session this week as Ricoh can't go. :p
 
Ive no idea but it cant be nice for you with him weeing everywhere. I would be tempted to keep a diary of everything he does and on his weeing days look back and see if you can pin point something. Even you washing his bedding anything like that connected to him, special treats etc.
 
Right, some interesting x-rays! Kidneys, bladder etc. all fine but some of the images appeared to show an ectopic ureter - i.e, the wee pipe (or bit of wee pipe) opening out into the urethra and bypassing the bladder but it's not clear where it starts or ends or if it isn't actually an extended loop of the normal ureter, the vet kept him under for an hour trying to get a clearer picture but the bladder kept getting in the way.

He's going to send the x-rays off for a second opinion as this condition is unusual enough anyway but almost unheard of in male dogs. However, at least one source that I've read with some frantic googling has stated that Siberian huskies are known to be affected.

Surgery would be the only cure - £££ as it's a specialist thing and he'd need to be referred. Thankfully at the moment his symptoms are so intermittent and, as he doesn't seem to be in any discomfort, surgery would not be recommended at the moment.
 
Just as some reassurance I've seen dogs post surgery for this and they seem to do surprisingly well so fingers crossed all is well with yours and if he needs it, I wouldn't be too too worried.
 
If his symptoms stay the same as they are now then I wouldn't put him through surgery, a few drips once a month or so is easily managed. :) It's just if it gets worse as he gets older that it would be a consideration.

The cynic in me is wondering if this is why his owners gave him up to rescue...

ETA: Got a lovely free shot of his hips which were described as 'beautiful' so at least that's one less worry. :p
 
Poor Ricoh, hope it stays at a manageable level. Buffy used to have spells of standing with urine running out of her over the last few months, lots of waterproof undersheets helped !
Being a cynic too I would think thats quite likely why he was given up by his first owners.:mad:
 
I think we have been very lucky, the condition usually results in constant leakage of pee in females but being a male and having 'impressive' (vet's word!) muscles in that area he seems to be able to control the flow for the most part, hence only erratic symptoms. Trying to figure out if being unusually tired or stressed is perhaps a trigger for leakage. Him being an erratic wee-er/weeing on his legs/continuing to wee while moving off all fits in with the unpredictable pee stream, one ureter is feeding into the bladder normally but one goes straight to the urethra and is less easy for him to control the flow of.

Have been talking to some husky bods and it is a known issue in the breed - that is, still very unusual but occurs in huskies more so than other similar breeds and with a known hereditary element. Still very much more common in bitches than dogs, some pups are born with completely unviable urinary tracts and have to be PTS. :(

Great shame that we don't know his breeding, there don't need to be any more of him about, he's ugly and now he smells of pee too. :p
 
That's interesting BC. B is only alive because his owner was able to pay for a shedload of surgery when he was a baby puppy. His father is dead and his breeders knows what I think of the mother :o :o :o
 
Time to develop a genetic test for this one then! Bloody typical though, huskies have about the fewest genetic issues of any pedigree dog and I end up with the one with mixed up piss pipes. :p

Katie I have been looking at some, thing is the episodes are so few and far between that I can just put a couple of towels down where he lies, the leaking bit only ever lasts a couple of hours at a time from what I've seen. Might invest in one for visiting the MIL just in case, she has pale carpets. :o
 
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