ElectricChampagne
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So I have always been feeding my now 9 yr old pom Markus muhle and he's done well on it. It is chicken based. Last November he started having bad diarrhea and vomiting. I also noticed he was getting itchy and his skin was dry. Went off his food and had a massively noisy tummy. Would keep me awake at night.
Vet trip and he was wormed, put on steroids and antibiotics, seemed to clear his issues. Guardia was blamed.
Advised to feed home cooked chicken and rice. Which I duly did.
Three more bouts and same outcome, but he'd always improve on ste steroids.
One evening about a month ago he had explosive diarrhea with a considerable amount of blood in it. Refused his grub but was happy and playing away with his little puppy brother.
Original vet was quite dismissive on the phone (different practice though) so as it was an emergency we tried another nearby practice.
Got him in, got bloods done tested for parvo which was thankfully negative and he has protein losing enteropathy. Very low blood protein, and calcium readings. Told he was a high seizure risk due to low calcium.
Sent home with high dose wormer, antibiotics and steroids, to come back a day later for more tests, an ultrasound and to be put on a drip.
Weekend of worry and running between home and vets.
Thankfully he improved on fluids, and his ultrasound didn't show up lymphangiectasia which was assumed the cause.
He refused the Markus muhle when home so put him on Caesar lamb, just to get him to eat. It's all I could get short notice . He went bonkers for it. As he was eating it and turning his nose up at others I kept him on it.
Anyway he improved and finished his wormers and antibiotics, but stayed on steroids. Back in for an ultrasound about a week later. Couldn't find his spleen!
But no lymphangiectasia seen this time either and bloods had improved, not quite normal levels but massively up since the original test.
In the meantime kept him eating the lamb Caesar and he was happy, bright and playful.
Accidentally gave him a chicken version and back to diarrhea and itchy.
So he is allergic to chicken!!
Said this to the vet as we had another blood test the next evening.
Knew bloods wouldn't be great as his tummy was sore from the chicken.
So bloods came back slightly increased in protein compared to last and not back to normal yet.
Vet said she needs to consult the practice and figure out what medicine he needs to go on.
Rang twice days later, keep him on steroids (I had asked about reducing this as he's now hyper and got the jitters) and to put him on something that's for humans to help blood platelets.
Immediately he was to be changed to royal canin hypoallergenic. It's high protein, low fat apparently. But no chicken in it and no ingredients on the tin. Whatever. None
Oh my word we were back to explosion diarrhea within one meal. Refusing to eat.
Googled the ingredients and eventually found them, 6.4% protein from poultry sources, 22% fat (low how is that low) and 1.2% fibre.
Back on Caesar lamb and he's back eating and got solid poos again. It's not the best food but he eats it with no reaction until I can find an alternative.
I should have protested because I knew the RC is pure ditch water but I didn't. Annoyed at myself.
Anyway... I believe he's got ibd from chicken allergies
Vets want to keep doing more and more and more tests, which are very expensive. Feel like they think I'm the sort that will do anything and am ABIT if a cash cow.
Anyone any experience of protein losing enteropathy in dogs? Any suggestions on how to manage my next vet appointment next week. I know his bloods will be bad.
Feel like I'm losing him and don't have much time left and I'm so worried because he's the best dog I could wish for...
Sorry for the length of this post!
Vet trip and he was wormed, put on steroids and antibiotics, seemed to clear his issues. Guardia was blamed.
Advised to feed home cooked chicken and rice. Which I duly did.
Three more bouts and same outcome, but he'd always improve on ste steroids.
One evening about a month ago he had explosive diarrhea with a considerable amount of blood in it. Refused his grub but was happy and playing away with his little puppy brother.
Original vet was quite dismissive on the phone (different practice though) so as it was an emergency we tried another nearby practice.
Got him in, got bloods done tested for parvo which was thankfully negative and he has protein losing enteropathy. Very low blood protein, and calcium readings. Told he was a high seizure risk due to low calcium.
Sent home with high dose wormer, antibiotics and steroids, to come back a day later for more tests, an ultrasound and to be put on a drip.
Weekend of worry and running between home and vets.
Thankfully he improved on fluids, and his ultrasound didn't show up lymphangiectasia which was assumed the cause.
He refused the Markus muhle when home so put him on Caesar lamb, just to get him to eat. It's all I could get short notice . He went bonkers for it. As he was eating it and turning his nose up at others I kept him on it.
Anyway he improved and finished his wormers and antibiotics, but stayed on steroids. Back in for an ultrasound about a week later. Couldn't find his spleen!
But no lymphangiectasia seen this time either and bloods had improved, not quite normal levels but massively up since the original test.
In the meantime kept him eating the lamb Caesar and he was happy, bright and playful.
Accidentally gave him a chicken version and back to diarrhea and itchy.
So he is allergic to chicken!!
Said this to the vet as we had another blood test the next evening.
Knew bloods wouldn't be great as his tummy was sore from the chicken.
So bloods came back slightly increased in protein compared to last and not back to normal yet.
Vet said she needs to consult the practice and figure out what medicine he needs to go on.
Rang twice days later, keep him on steroids (I had asked about reducing this as he's now hyper and got the jitters) and to put him on something that's for humans to help blood platelets.
Immediately he was to be changed to royal canin hypoallergenic. It's high protein, low fat apparently. But no chicken in it and no ingredients on the tin. Whatever. None
Oh my word we were back to explosion diarrhea within one meal. Refusing to eat.
Googled the ingredients and eventually found them, 6.4% protein from poultry sources, 22% fat (low how is that low) and 1.2% fibre.
Back on Caesar lamb and he's back eating and got solid poos again. It's not the best food but he eats it with no reaction until I can find an alternative.
I should have protested because I knew the RC is pure ditch water but I didn't. Annoyed at myself.
Anyway... I believe he's got ibd from chicken allergies
Vets want to keep doing more and more and more tests, which are very expensive. Feel like they think I'm the sort that will do anything and am ABIT if a cash cow.
Anyone any experience of protein losing enteropathy in dogs? Any suggestions on how to manage my next vet appointment next week. I know his bloods will be bad.
Feel like I'm losing him and don't have much time left and I'm so worried because he's the best dog I could wish for...
Sorry for the length of this post!
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