Vibes for little Jessie please

rabatsa said:
Can you get some lactose free milk to try?
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I will send son to the nearest town to try and get some.
cauda equina said:
In humans paracetamol does not irritate the stomach in the same way drugs such as brufen and aspirin do
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I was thinking that, but for some reason vet was quite adamant she must eat before meds are given, so perhaps it is one of the others she is concerned about?
paisley said:
Have you got any Oralade? It’s usually chicken flavour so if she’s happy to drink, she might like the hydration fluid and hers things back to food- if you’ve had a really upset stomach, food can seem the last thing you want.
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No, but again I can see if we can get some.
Clodagh said:
Warm cat food?
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We haven't got any but will get some and try that.
Dopeydapple said:
Very flakey wet salmon?
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Definitely got that so will now give that a try.

Thanks all lots of very helpful things to try, I shall try the salmon straight away as I have that.
 
The only thing mine will eat with tablets when she's ill is turkey mince or scrambled egg. Pork mince sometimes. Eaten warm, not cool.
 
CorvusCorax said:
I know I always say these two things but did they rule out a blockage, and any issue with her spleen?
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They said she doesn't have a blockage, but her spleen wasn't mentioned. I can't believe I forgot to ask about spleen, that was exactly what took one of my collies very suddenly with similar symptoms. Unfortunately she died within two hours after the vets (same practice) took her in. She was the same age too. 🙁

She had the full profile of bloods according to the invoice - would that show if she had a problem with her spleen do you know?
 
Mrs. Jingle said:
They said she doesn't have a blockage, but her spleen wasn't mentioned. I can't believe I forgot to ask about spleen, that was exactly what took one of my collies very suddenly with similar symptoms. Unfortunately she died within two hours after the vets (same practice) took her in. She was the same age too. 🙁

She had the full profile of bloods according to the invoice - would that show if she had a problem with her spleen do you know?
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To be fair if it was the spleen she probably still wouldn't be here and it would probably have shown up on the blood tests, so try not to panic. You could always ring up and check to put your mind at rest.
Those are just the two things that my dogs had where they just would not take food at all, which is why I always mention them.

Other things were really bad gas and a V&D virus. (but you'd know if it was that!)
 
The vet is ringing me back when she gets out of surgery. No diarrhoea though last poo yesterday morning was a bit soft, hasn't been since then as only a very small amount of food given at vets yesterday so not really expecting a poo anytime soon. Hasn't been sick just a lot of drooling.

She is at least sleeping now on the sofa alongside me, and her panting has stopped but we keep checking her rib cage in case she has died! So scary when they are this ill. She didn't even look at the salmon. 🙁
 
Mrs. Jingle said:
The vet is ringing me back when she gets out of surgery. No diarrhoea though last poo yesterday morning was a bit soft, hasn't been since then as only a very small amount of food given at vets yesterday so not really expecting a poo anytime soon. Hasn't been sick just a lot of drooling.

She is at least sleeping now on the sofa alongside me, and her panting has stopped but we keep checking her rib cage in case she has died! So scary when they are this ill. She didn't even look at the salmon. 🙁
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It really is 🙁 I hope you get some answers soon 🤞
 
Mrs. Jingle said:
We can't get anything down her, but as yesterday she is still drinking plenty. I am worried if we cant get the meds down her she may have to go back on a drip. She isn't eating and vet has said we must give the tablets with food, any ideas? So far I have tried porridge made with water with a bit of sugar and jam in it. Peanut butter coated on her kibble, even hand fed bites of peanut butter sandwich. All completely refused, Jem however is doing her best to set a good example by wolfing down the offerings Jess won't take. :rolleyes:

She has to take Paracetemol 500mg, Noroclav 250mg and Caprieve 50 mg. I am guessing to get her temp down the Paracetemol is the most important but worried about shoving it down her throat on an empty stomach might not be the best as vet quite insistent it must be taken with or after food? I shall phone vets in the next hour or so if no improvement but any ideas on tempting her with food to at least line her stomach would be very welcome.
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Cheese or ham in this house is always a winner, or if that fails, those cheap cooked sausages. If my dog refused them I'd know she was ill. Even if you can get food down first, then follow on with the tablet down the throat, it would do.
 
What a worry mrs J…has she been spayed? My entire female large dog age 8, suddenly went off food and was drinking loads with pyometra…womb infection. She absolutely refused to eat…which never happened even with a dodgy gut or mild illness, so knew it was serious.
Google vet threw pyometra when i googled the excess drinking, so i suggested that to vet who then confirmed through palpation…her pelvis had also become slightly swollen….and emergency surgery was booked and she recovered instantly.

From blue cross website:

What are the symptoms of pyometra in dogs?​

Early signs may not always be obvious but your pet may be off their food, lethargic, or very thirsty. Sometimes pets have discharge from their vagina but not in all cases.

As the infection gets worse your pet may be sick and become very unwilling to move.

If you suspect that your pet may have pyometra contact your vet immediately – acting fast could save their life.
 
She has had her morning tablets and eaten a little salmon!:) I sat next to her on the floor and hand fed little bits of the salmon and just pushed the tablets down as soon as she had managed about a third of a small tin. Next tablets to be taken at 4 so I shall try with the salmon again. Thank you whoever suggested it.

Spoken to vet, she is happy to leave her with us now she has taken the tablets and eaten a little, but only is she continues to drink and stops the panting. So far she is not panting although her breathing is still quite fast and has sloped off into a room with sunlight patch to lay on and sleep again. Quite cool in there despite the bit of sunlight so I shall leave her to sleep again for now. Poor Jem just trails around behind her, stands and watches her, then gives a big sigh and lays down beside her.

Not pyometra but thanks for suggestion @PurBee, she is spayed.


Aaaargh! Forgot to ask vet about spleen. We are to ring later this afternoon to update has she taken next lot of meds and if she is still drinking OK, I shall ask then. Crikey my head is all over the place, I hadn't realised just how much I love the little monkey. This is the 'runner' that some of you might remember the trouble we had when we first got her. Well she still is a runner but we have achieved a very happy lifestyle for her without risking her disappearing into the distance in pursuit of anything that moves, pretty much.😍
 
Glad to hear she’s spayed. I had never heard of pyometra until my dog got it.
Great to hear she’s eaten a little bit to get the meds down her. Fingers crossed the meds work quickly and she feels better after her sunbeam nap.
 
PurBee said:
Glad to hear she’s spayed. I had never heard of pyometra until my dog got it.
Great to hear she’s eaten a little bit to get the meds down her. Fingers crossed the meds work quickly and she feels better after her sunbeam nap.
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I would be appalled if even the least experienced vet didn't identify pyometria in an unspayed bitch who was presented to them with it. It is incredibly common and would easily show raised white blood cells in a blood test.

OP, that sounds more promising, thank goodness!
 
Two things......

Firstly, sardines in oil can help with administering medicines, likewise freshly cooked (warm) liver, chicken or whatever. Sometimes I have had to crush tablets, mix with a bone broth and syringe down throats.

Secondly, my experience of splenic tumours was as follows.....two older dogs (12 years+) not quite right, bit lethargic. Bloods were okay, but again not quite right but nothing to alarm over. Dogs 'collapsed' when out on exercise.....lay down, lion pose, fully conscious and aware. Had to be carried back to vehicle, rushed to vet, stretchered in and had thermometer shoved up where the sun don't shine and stood up. Sent home. Times vary slightly for each dog, but this same scenario was repeated roughly four months later, then two months after that and then....one month later when emergency vet called to house. Both dogs were tkane in, had abdominal ultrasound scan and that's when spelenic tumours showed up. It was surmised that the tumour was bleeding at each incident, then recovered. Surgery was offered, but as both were close to 13 I declined.

Fingers crossed.
 
gunnergundog said:
Two things......

Firstly, sardines in oil can help with administering medicines, likewise freshly cooked (warm) liver, chicken or whatever. Sometimes I have had to crush tablets, mix with a bone broth and syringe down throats.

Secondly, my experience of splenic tumours was as follows.....two older dogs (12 years+) not quite right, bit lethargic. Bloods were okay, but again not quite right but nothing to alarm over. Dogs 'collapsed' when out on exercise.....lay down, lion pose, fully conscious and aware. Had to be carried back to vehicle, rushed to vet, stretchered in and had thermometer shoved up where the sun don't shine and stood up. Sent home. Times vary slightly for each dog, but this same scenario was repeated roughly four months later, then two months after that and then....one month later when emergency vet called to house. Both dogs were tkane in, had abdominal ultrasound scan and that's when spelenic tumours showed up. It was surmised that the tumour was bleeding at each incident, then recovered. Surgery was offered, but as both were close to 13 I declined.

Fingers crossed.
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Thank you for that, she is accepting the tablets with a pinch of salmon wrapped around them now thank goodness. Yes we can get the tablets down her (or my son can) by simply putting it on the back of her tongue and she swallows them down, but I was worried about the vet's warning of giving them on an empty stomach so it was more getting food down her first to then enable the tablets if you see what I mean, as she would not eat anything. And much less stressful now she will just take them from my hand with the stinky salmon.

Your bloods comment is almost exactly what vet said yesterday, now you have me worried as I have also lost a collie before to very, very similar symptoms to this and it was the spleen.:( But in her case it was all over within hours, collapsed on walk, carried home, taken to vets panting and drooling, very pale gums and very distressed. She died within two hours of getting to the vets so they think it was a massive bleed in her case, rather than anything slowly advancing.

Hopefully if it is something similar with Jessie it will be operable as she is only 8. She is very quiet now and sleeping soundly but not such laboured breathing so hopefully on the right path now. 🤞
 
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