Videos of your horses getting up from rolling/lying down

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I posted a while ago about BBP nearly falling as he got up, and now I'm obsessed with watching him, and trying to compare him to 'normal'. I'm currently working with vet, trimmer and osteopath to work out what on earth is going on. He is on a high dose danilon trial at the moment and we have x-rayed the feet. The vet didn't see anything on X-rays, but a few people say he has embedded bars pressing into caudal heel structures. Obviously there could also be unseen soft tissue damage. If it isn't that then we have to start looking higher up.

I'm curious to watch other horses getting up if you have any clips you can post?
 
I wish I could post them..I remember your video showing the knuckling over and staggering. I haven’t seen a horse ever get up like that so I do understand why you re obsessed with watching others.
Mostly the two front feet get thrust in front and braced and the hind feet push up from beneath in a big heave with no staggering to find stability. I bet there are loads of tech savvy video posters can help...
 
One of mine gets up like a cow some of the time. Hind legs first. He was brought up with cows.

Big horse gets into sitting position, then does a half circle before getting up.
 
My DWB's hinds, when her suspensories were bobbered, shook. It wasn't a good thing to watch.

My appy, when her suspensories were so very bad, she couldn't lie down as she simply couldn't get up again other by a weird rocking and bending front legs. Her hinds were sort of almost straight.
 
I'm also struggling with posting videos, so it was a big ask! Also, i'm pretty sure if I posted them, half the replies would tell me to PTS. I've not seen anything like it, so it's hard to know what the cause is.
 
Funny you should mention embedded bars. I posted some hoof photos on a FB and got told if the bars were trimmed down she would be sound. Well they were and she isn't! I think embedded bars and bar pressure is a bit of a "thing" in some trimming circles.

So nothing obvious on BBP's x rays then?
I rarely see the Appy roll and she's the one with the navicular diagnosis but if I can catch it on film I will!
 
BBP said:
I'm also struggling with posting videos, so it was a big ask! Also, i'm pretty sure if I posted them, half the replies would tell me to PTS. I've not seen anything like it, so it's hard to know what the cause is.
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I've got loads of videos of my 2 rolling but I wont post them on here because no doubt someone will jump on them saying that the horses are lame, have a neurological problem, has colic, too fat,too thin, too much grass,not enough grass, too dirty, too clean etc..... ?

Happy to PM you some if you want though.
 
PM would be great if you don’t mind. I promise no drama or criticism from me. I can look at random ones on the Internet but at least if I know the horses owner I can ask a few stupid questions to see if anything ties in with BBP.
 
BBP said:
PM would be great if you don’t mind. I promise no drama or criticism from me. I can look at random ones on the Internet but at least if I know the horses owner I can ask a few stupid questions to see if anything ties in with BBP.
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I have sent 3 different horses. You have to ignore the chatting in the stable and skip to the end when I finally get them out of bed LOL
 
Thanks so much everyone. There is definitely something not good with BBP when you compare him to all this lot.
 
Gloi said:

Sometimes he rolls over but not this time

Uploading to youtube and sharing a link I find easiest
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Thank you. If I can figure out how to get back into youtube, or start another youtube channel I will try to upload them, but I'm worried what everyone will say. Not that it matters what others say, I know my horse and opinions don't change anything.

BBP rolls really agilely (if that's a word) but gets up with forelegs bent instead of straight.
 
I remember your original video, looking at the normal ones, I think I'd be looking higher up, fetlocks or even knees or shoulders maybe. I think I'd be looking soft tissue though, he doesnt like to straighten up which makes me think tightness down the back of the leg somewhere maybe.
Sorry, not a vet, just random musings of another keyboard expert - I'm not in any way qualified to have even this much of an opinion so feel free to disregard.
Hope you get to the bottom of it though x
 
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Roxylola said:
I remember your original video, looking at the normal ones, I think I'd be looking higher up, fetlocks or even knees or shoulders maybe. I think I'd be looking soft tissue though, he doesnt like to straighten up which makes me think tightness down the back of the leg somewhere maybe.
Sorry, not a vet, just random musings of another keyboard expert - I'm not in any way qualified to have even this much of an opinion so feel free to disregard.
Hope you get to the bottom of it though x
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Thank you. I don't mind people sharing their thoughts, one of them might hit the money. I had thought feet as the camping under improves immediately when I put boots and pads on him, as does his attitude to being asked to trot. Without the boots and pads he can be a bit unhappy looking, ears back. With the boots and pads his ears go forwards almost straight away. Its the weirdest thing. Also its both front legs I think. Otherwise I would also think something soft tissue or nervous higher up that prevents him from physically extending the knee or fetlock joint. My vet said she knew a horse that had severed its extensor tendon and the only notable symptom it showed was the inability to flick its toe into extension.
 
Wow, it's amazing how well they manage to compensate really.
Concussion somewhere maybe re boots and pads - total stab in the dark though as your feet theory makes sense on that basis
 
Funnily enough I was thinking of you today when Nelson got down for a roll in the field, I didn't think to video him but I did watch him getting up and he looked fairly normal to me. If I can catch him again tomorrow I'll definitely whip my phone out.
 
Roxylola said:
Wow, it's amazing how well they manage to compensate really.
Concussion somewhere maybe re boots and pads - total stab in the dark though as your feet theory makes sense on that basis
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I was so sure the x-rays would show something clear, like a reverse rotation of the pedal bone, which is what a farrier had suggested to me.
 
SEL said:
Funny you should mention embedded bars. I posted some hoof photos on a FB and got told if the bars were trimmed down she would be sound. Well they were and she isn't! I think embedded bars and bar pressure is a bit of a "thing" in some trimming circles.

So nothing obvious on BBP's x rays then?
I rarely see the Appy roll and she's the one with the navicular diagnosis but if I can catch it on film I will!
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Not sure if they mean the same as when they said it to you, but to me they meant its not pressure of the bar having folded over or anything, but having almost grown into the foot like an ingrown toenail, at the deepest point of the frog cleft, so that end of the bar is putting pressure on the caudal hoof structures. They said that perhaps if the bars were taken down, over time the proximal end of the bar would start to retract from the foot and reduce the pressure on the coffin bone and soft tissue. I kind of get what they are saying, his sulcus and clefts are very deep, so it may be relevant perhaps?
 
JennBags said:
Funnily enough I was thinking of you today when Nelson got down for a roll in the field, I didn't think to video him but I did watch him getting up and he looked fairly normal to me. If I can catch him again tomorrow I'll definitely whip my phone out.
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Thank you. Its a new obsession of mine! I'm trying to put together a collection of his rolls so I have them all in one place.
 
BBP said:
Thank you. I don't mind people sharing their thoughts, one of them might hit the money. I had thought feet as the camping under improves immediately when I put boots and pads on him, as does his attitude to being asked to trot. Without the boots and pads he can be a bit unhappy looking, ears back. With the boots and pads his ears go forwards almost straight away. Its the weirdest thing. Also its both front legs I think. Otherwise I would also think something soft tissue or nervous higher up that prevents him from physically extending the knee or fetlock joint. My vet said she knew a horse that had severed its extensor tendon and the only notable symptom it showed was the inability to flick its toe into extension.
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I would be looking around the brachial plexus and cervical vertebrae. Neurological extensor weakness could explain the knuckling over and the struggle to get up.
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