Videos of your horses getting up from rolling/lying down

cobgoblin said:
I would be looking around the brachial plexus and cervical vertebrae. Neurological extensor weakness could explain the knuckling over and the struggle to get up.
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Vet was questioning cervical. Its definitely something to look at.
 
I'll be brave and put up a link to a compilation video from the last month or so, haven't looked further back yet. No movement in this one, but as I said, put boots and pads on him and he stands straight instead of camped under, and his ears go forwards instead of back when asked to trot on. But these are just him rolling and getting up.

 
Im glad you posted your video. I hope i can count myself as part of this "community" and as a general rule i think we are helpful and supportive, so i feel bad when people feel afraid to share a video/photo about something they are worried about.

I have nothing of help to say about his up/down motion but i do notice he has a quite narrow front. I hope you figure it all out though x
 
BBP said:
I'll be brave and put up a link to a compilation video from the last month or so, haven't looked further back yet. No movement in this one, but as I said, put boots and pads on him and he stands straight instead of camped under, and his ears go forwards instead of back when asked to trot on. But these are just him rolling and getting up.

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Very odd isn't it, it obviously is causing pain somewhere.
I had a horse that damaged his stifle and he used to really struggle getting up but in a totally different way to BBP so even if I had a video of it I don't think it would help.
 
Looking at your videos and giving my uneducated opinion I would say that although what she is doing with the front legs is odd the problem is not there. You can see when she is halfway up her thinking 'this next bit is going to hurt'. I wonder if the has arthritic pain somewhere in her back end
 
Firstly I want to say ditto to what Equi said about posting videos, well said.

Secondly, to my untrained eye, unlike the horses, and mule, in the other videos, I think it looks as if halfway up, he does a rocking horse like movement, and it seems as if it is more the momentum of that movement that gets the back half of his body up in a standing position, rather than using the strength in his behind to get that part of his body to stand up.

Reminds me of myself, and how I had to use alternative ways of getting into a standing position when I had a hernia in my back, than relying on my back, and leg muscles, the way I used to.

ETA That doesn't mean I think he necessarily has a back hernia, but I agree with those who thinks that perhaps the problem originates from the back half of his body, somewhere.
 
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Gloi said:
Looking at your videos and giving my uneducated opinion I would say that although what she is doing with the front legs is odd the problem is not there. You can see when she is halfway up her thinking 'this next bit is going to hurt'. I wonder if the has arthritic pain somewhere in her back end
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I agree.

When I watched it reminded me of how I got up after my big operations. It hurts, you know it's going to hurt but you have to do it, so you try to do it in stages and gather yourself together between each bit.
 
Gloi said:
Looking at your videos and giving my uneducated opinion I would say that although what she is doing with the front legs is odd the problem is not there. You can see when she is halfway up her thinking 'this next bit is going to hurt'. I wonder if the has arthritic pain somewhere in her back end
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this was my thought too. I have one that sometimes stands "over" on her fetlocks (thoroughly worked up and declared a-ok) so while she will sometimes have her front legs not fully extended she never struggles to get up. My neuro horse also gets up easily. May be well off the mark but I also wondered if he wasn't finding the strength/power behind to push up.
 
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He is definitely a little puzzle. We know he has a history of sacroiliac injury that I am constantly managing. I have been working with Tom Beech on this and he has actually improved a lot in the last year (since a crunching fall in Feb 2019). From old videos he has always pushed up to a sit and rocked a bit to get up, at least for the last few years and I always put it down to inherent weakness in the sacroiliac, but the bendy legs and toeing in seems new and perhaps is making him even more unstable. I'm trying to track down old videos from before the first sacroiliac injury and bone scan/back X-rays/stifle checks. It seems likely that I have multiple issues that each cloud the other. The posture is certainly improved by adding boots and pads, and he is definitely landing toe first, but I am not seeing a lot of difference in anything during his bute trial. We were wondering a little about maybe a cervical issue, affecting the nerves in forelegs.

This is him having a bit of a trot around at 6am this morning.
 
BBP said:
He is definitely a little puzzle. We know he has a history of sacroiliac injury that I am constantly managing. I have been working with Tom Beech on this and he has actually improved a lot in the last year (since a crunching fall in Feb 2019). From old videos he has always pushed up to a sit and rocked a bit to get up, at least for the last few years and I always put it down to inherent weakness in the sacroiliac, but the bendy legs and toeing in seems new and perhaps is making him even more unstable. I'm trying to track down old videos from before the first sacroiliac injury and bone scan/back X-rays/stifle checks. It seems likely that I have multiple issues that each cloud the other. The posture is certainly improved by adding boots and pads, and he is definitely landing toe first, but I am not seeing a lot of difference in anything during his bute trial. We were wondering a little about maybe a cervical issue, affecting the nerves in forelegs.
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To be honest I did also wonder about sacroiliac pain.
 
He look like our Shetland does - like he can’t quite get his front feet in the right place as he gets up.

our Shetland has shoulder dysplasia - he will toe in and bend on the side with the bad shoulder, we put it down to him not having the same range of movement on that side as the other so it gets left behind.

I don’t think it is that though as he would be noticeably hopping lame - but I’d say it’s more of a shoulder/higher up problem than a foot/leg problem.

I’ll try to catch a video of him next time he does it. I don’t seem to have any on my phone.
 
This may well be too late, but this is a video of mine getting up at the end of a looooong roll on rock-hard, frozen ground. I tried to be fancy and make it in slo-mo. Not sure it's added anything tbh...


And one of him showing me he's really itchy and needs ruggng!

 
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Surbie said:
This may well be too late, but this is a video of mine getting up at the end of a looooong roll on rock-hard, frozen ground. I tried to be fancy and make it in slo-mo. Not sure it's added anything tbh...


And one of him showing me he's really itchy and needs ruggng!

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That last ones a really good one actually, shows the push with the hind end well. Thanks!
 
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