Warmblood or Irish Sports Horse

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If you wanted an all rounder for low level eventing /riding club, who had basics established but the potential to bring on would you go for a warmblood or an Irish sports horse ? interested to hear your perspectives:) !....
 
Personally I would consider either and judge it on the individual horses I looked at, I have had a few warmbloods some of whom have been brave, easy and great fun and some of whom have been stressy, nappy and lazy so I think it depends on the individual horse. Currently have an ISH who is lovely, can throw in a huge spook every now and then (just to amuse himself and keep me on my toes I'm sure!) but is never nasty and I have never felt unsafe on him and a WBxTB 4 year old who I have just broken and is a lovely charachter really easy going but very trainable.
 
I wouldn't specifically look for either of those if I wanted an all rounder, I'd look at anything and everything that was the right height and price
 
I wanted an ISH when i was looking but ended up with a warmblood!! Wouldnt change him for the world hes only 5 but so far he hasnt batted an eyelid at anything and i hope to event him next year :) id say just look at horses within your specifics and worry about the breed later would you turn down your perfect horse just because it wasnt the breed you wanted?!! :)
 
I would want something around 15.2hh that is trainable, forward thinking, shows scope over a fence and is sound. ;)

Bonus points for any of the following - mare, chestnut, arab blood.
 
blitznbobs said:
for dressage choose a warmblood, eventing an Ish with a fair bit of thoroughbred in it. for low levels either will do a good job...
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I wouldn't write off an ISH for dressage. I own an ISH who's an ex-hunter and had never done dressage before in his life but he's learning fast and we're planning on starting to compete in a few weeks (even though I've only had him for around 4 weeks). He's a big chunky boy (16.2hh) so he struggles a little on some of the tighter work but he makes up for it with extra effort
 
there arent many ish s doing grand prix - they are pretty much all contenental wbs ... i do medium on a traditional cob - any horse can do the lower levels but the wb are built for the job.
 
I don't think it matters it needs to be the right horse .
An ISH is simply a Irish warmblood anyway.
But if I could choose one horse to own it would be a kwpn.
 
Thanks for all your replies
Goldenstar - why KWPN in particular ? what differentiates them from other warmbloods ?
 
Because they tend to very sharp and hot which what I like although of course all 'types ' of horses have a range of temperaments so it is a bit silly to generalise .
I like the light framed modern type of warmblood and my Favorites have been kwpn.
I love their trainability which a double edged sword of course they learn the bad as quick as the good.
But I own and have owned all sorts I am not hung up on breed .
I worship less at the shrine of the ISH than many mainly because I have had much more soundness trouble with them than the warmbloods .
 
Goldenstar said:
Because they tend to very sharp and hot which what I like although of course all 'types ' of horses have a range of temperaments so it is a bit silly to generalise .
I like the light framed modern type of warmblood and my Favorites have been kwpn.
I love their trainability which a double edged sword of course they learn the bad as quick as the good.
But I own and have owned all sorts I am not hung up on breed .
I worship less at the shrine of the ISH than many mainly because I have had much more soundness trouble with them
than the warmbloods .
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Thats really interesting - I was kind of assuming the ISHs would be a bit more robust and LESS injusry prone ? also maybe easier to keep weight on in the winter lol !
 
Well to be honest, many ISH are just WBs anyway. Mine is ISH but he is half Oldenburg.

However, would go for a proper ID x TB if I wanted something level headed and sensible for low level stuff. Though there are always exceptions to the rule and you should judge horses individually.
 
Every horse is different, we've had both WB and ISH, our full up WB looked very much like a TB, hated dressage, loved XC and jumping, our ISH is only 6 and very gangly so we're taking her slow but she is showing potential in both dressage and jumping.
 
A warmblood is TB crossed with a cold blood (draught type). Europe has been breeding warmblood to warmblood for years and has a pretty standardised production. Ireland traditionally bred ID to TB each generation which produced a wide variation from Cobs to heavyweight hunters but they too now produce the Irish Sport horse much the same as Europe.

A KWPN was foaled in Netherlands but could and often is of German, Belgian, French origins etc.

In other words, look at the horse, do not get too hung up on the breeding - there is a huge variety and to say that one country produces 'hot' horses and another produces 'easy' ones is a little simplistic!

Good luck in finding your perfect partner - he/she is out there somewhere. Take your time and choose carefully.
 
We have one that is 3/4 IDxTB and 1/4 Holstein - that's a nice mixture of both! Seems to have the Irish attitude, ID size, TB agility and Holstein length of stride! Very nice looking too!
 
Mine is a kwpn x ISH. I think its a great mix! She is switched on and forward thinking but at the same time sensible and surefooted. :)
 
ISH all the way :) but they are so varied you have to look at each one; they are individuals!!
ISH are in the majority at high level eventing so not just for low level :)

We have a yard of ISH and each one is different!
 
Sorry to jump in on this thread,but as i have only just registered i don't know how to do a new post.What i would like to ask is does anyone have any experience with PYRO PLASMOSIS.Unfortunately, i have had one just diagonsed this weekend.He went off on his hols towards the south of France,about 3 wks ago and was diagnosed yesterday after running a temp for 3 days.It is not something that i have encountered before,so all or any info would be appreciated.Apparently comes from a tick or fly bite.
many thanks horseradish.
 
horseradish said:
Sorry to jump in on this thread,but as i have only just registered i don't know how to do a new post.What i would like to ask is does anyone have any experience with PYRO PLASMOSIS.Unfortunately, i have had one just diagonsed this weekend.He went off on his hols towards the south of France,about 3 wks ago and was diagnosed yesterday after running a temp for 3 days.It is not something that i have encountered before,so all or any info would be appreciated.Apparently comes from a tick or fly bite.
many thanks horseradish.
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I've posted this in the Vet section of the forum. :)
 
I'm another that thinks it depends in individual horse, especially at the level you want
I looked at both ISH and WB's.
I bought a WB he is the loveliest probably the most sensible horse on the yard (20+ horses)
Moves really nice and has a good jump in him
 
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