Welsh x tb as an allrounder?

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Could I have some opinions / info on a Welsh x tb as a general allrounder horse pls? Hadnt considered Welsh at all (am looking for irish types) and know nothing about them but have seen quite a nice looking one. Do they have any particular breed tendencies I should be aware of? Thanks
 
It's a classic mix as crossing a native with TB blood is a tried and tested way to breed a good all rounder. I would expect a Welsh x TB to potentially be on the hotter side but it's not guaranteed of course.
 
It's impossible to generalise but a Welsh/TB could be a great allrounder. You have lots of good traits from both in there but really your question is like asking how long a piece of string is, until you've actually seen the horse, its temperament and way of going. Is it your first? You could post a link to the ad!
 
Not first horse but want something quiet and generally easy as have young kids and I want them to be around said horse. Want to have a nice hacking and rc horse. Haven't seen her yet and she isn't openly advertised so just deciding whether to go and look.
 
You'll need to look to find out if it's what you need. My friend has a pure D who is 99% brilliant and 1% idiot. He's super in traffic and almost bombproof in every sense then he will over react to something he's seen a million times BUT she does everything with him and he's a great all rounder, including chaperoning her kids.
 
My last horse was a welsh x TB and I would have one again without hesitation. He was a really lovely sort and really tried to please. He could be a little bit spooky/forward going but had the kindest nature. As mentioned above though they can be hard to come by. I really wanted another but couldn't find one.
 
I would have one! Think Welshies can add some quirks to the mix but ran a clinic at the weekend and there were two welsh x TB and I would have taken both home although both had a cheeky buck
 
See my previous posts. I bred this cross. I find the welsh side gives them the brain and the quick front leg over a jump, but that may just be my stallion! Pics of him, and his daughter. 15.2hh and competing at OI eventing.
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FfionWinnie said:
Ha ha perfect description!
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Tis, rather. :D

I had one that I really liked, but he was also a bit welsh, in hindsight ;) I didn't mind at all but he wasn't for the faint hearted!

If you're looking at partbreds, I've loved every Connie x tb that I've come across.
 
As all rounders they are generally fantastic. They are fun and athletic and will do all sorts to a reasonable level. Though they can be sensitive and quirky, but I've never met one with any malice in it. I think it is a fabulous mix, and if you get a good one you're onto a winner, so definitely go look I would say :D
 
Thanks guys. I'm going to go and try her - she isn't actively for sale so I have no pressure 😊 I can go back a few times to see how she feels. I am also currently trying a full connie who also isn't actively for sale at the mo - she also ticks all boxes but when she arrived from Ireland a couple of weeks ago she was quite poor and a bit nervy so am going up to see her regularly to see if she improves. Is this realistic do you think? (Sorry just going off on a tangent here!)
 
Silly question but if she is 'hot/sharp' would I see that at the viewings? (Basically if she isn't hot and I feel fine on her is she likely to stay that way?) I have never felt as novice/risk adverse as I do now, looking for a new horse! 😕
 
wilkinson1 said:
Silly question but if she is 'hot/sharp' would I see that at the viewings? (Basically if she isn't hot and I feel fine on her is she likely to stay that way?) I have never felt as novice/risk adverse as I do now, looking for a new horse! 😕
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Most likely, they are not very good at hiding how they feel.....

On the Connie - yes becoming less nervy should happen in the few weeks you are going to visit.
 
Is she in full work at the moment and as fit as you are likely to get her? Also how old and is she doing the things you want to do already? Is the current rider a better, worse or similar rider compared to you?

The clue with one I bought was as simple as "she enjoys hacking in company" so I took the bull by the horns and said so does she hack on her own? No she doesn't. So I got her half price and she hacked by herself 3 days after she arrived. In the wrong hands they can be a real pain in the neck but in the right hands the best horse you'll ever own.
 
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[ I bred this cross. I find the welsh side gives them the brain and the quick front leg over a jump, but that may just be my stallion! Pics of him, and his daughter. 15.2hh and competing at OI eventing.

wow, that is a sharp front leg over a fence. lovely jump!
 
FfionWinnie said:
Is she in full work at the moment and as fit as you are likely to get her? Also how old and is she doing the things you want to do already? Is the current rider a better, worse or similar rider compared to you?

The clue with one I bought was as simple as "she enjoys hacking in company" so I took the bull by the horns and said so does she hack on her own? No she doesn't. So I got her half price and she hacked by herself 3 days after she arrived. In the wrong hands they can be a real pain in the neck but in the right hands the best horse you'll ever own.
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She is rising 6, has only been broken 6 months but has been out doing dressage, xc and hunting. Snaffle mouthed. Hacks perfectly alone and in company. I have asked outright if she shows any typical Welsh traits and was told that she isn't sharp or silly, very soppy and affectionate, can occasionally be a little opinionated but yields easily to a firm hand. She has been very straightforward and they aren't in any hurry to sell and will be doing be80 with her in the spring. I would say I'm prob the same as current rider in capability / level but I can be a bit more nervy (unless I'm on something I feel safe on).
 
I've got one and had one before for 19 years and you couldn't have had more different horses. The first one was lazy with a tendency to tank when he did actually decide to move; I loved him dearly but he wasn't a particularly fun horse to ride. My current one, a mare, is a wonderful ride and my horse of a lifetime. She's now rising 24 and as fit and active as a horse half her age. She has an excellent jump, moves beautifully and her manners are nearly perfect. She is however sharp and opinionated and rules the herd with all the compassion of Kim Jung Un.
 
We had an amazing Sect. D xTB years ago, he was so scopey and brave, a bit hot at times admittedly but a superstar pony!! He had random dislikes to things (bicycles being one) and could take a lot of warming up for dressage but his jumping and general gorgeousness made up for it :)



 
I had one on a share agreement many years ago. He was absolutely stunning, but an idiot to hack on his own and had very strong opinions about what pace x-country should be done at. His stable name was Crackers and it suited him!
 
I adore D's but have to say that in my (pretty limited I admit) opinion, welsh crosses tend to be even sharper. I have a D and a D X (don't know what she's crossed with). The D is my angel and my horse of a lifetime. The D X is the absolute bane of my life. Just totally neurotic, a ****** to catch and really sharp and spooky.

A friend has a welsh X TB and he has been incredibly hard work. He was very nappy and backward thinking and prone to flouncing!

Personally I'd prefer a full D or a ID x TB. :)
 
I love this cross they are intelligent and cooperative in the ones I have met. True sport horses and probably the origins of warmblood breeding. I like the look of the welsh stallion over tb mare better than the other way round, I suppose it is horses for courses I love welsh D's too and have never owned a silly one all have been very easy to ride and deal with. Mind you I have raised them all myself from 4-6 months old
 
A friend of mine has one, shes had him since he was 4, and hes still the same now. Awesome little horse, jumps/moves and easy to do in many ways. Hes given lots of the kids confidence. But I do like what someone else said. 99% perfect 1% idiot. He does have the odd moment, but then don't they all ? He has a perfect buck.
 
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