What a nice welcome to h&h (not)

well, all being well this will get sorted tomorrow and we will both know better than to post things online when the other is not here, rather than speak to the person involved directly. Hopefully both of us will have learned our lesson from this. It is absolutely not fair to post about someone when they are not around to defend themselves and I would like to publicly apologise for doing this. This made me no better than the very thing I was complaining about in the first place!

So, an apology to MrsElle, and also to you guys for confusing the hell out of you. hopefully we can have a good long chat and get a few things off our chests, at the end of the day we both have something in common - we love these two horses to pieces and that is the most important thing.

so, no more late night shandys and ranting for me, the headache in the morning will teach me if nothing else!
 
Which one is meant to have given up the will to live
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For the record, I don't see you have done anything of an inflammatory nature. You haven't called the owner/loaner's care or experience into question, simply asked (as I might) should you be/have been informed so as to be able to help - as you so obviously wish to do if you can.

Lots of touchy people on here from what I can see
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now being fully aware of the situation via PM i feel i owe an apology for being so critical, however with such a vague post it is hard to accertain the true nature of the situation
 
And finally ... sounds like its all sorted then.

Welcome Featherpower to the forum and I hope the headache isn't too bad in the morning! Looking forward to you posting in future.

xxx I really am going to bed now - 02:17, how sad am I!
 
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Giddy aunt! What a way to join and introduce one's self
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Read first two pages and last page (lost the will, and there's show jumping on telly), but as your headache will hopefully remind you, definately not a good way to go about it. You could have joined, seen the posts that upset you, talked to the person in question (off-line) and then come on here and taken part in fine order, as it is
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Oh good god featherpower.
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I left after about page 2 last night and went to bed. You had a LOT of advice in the first page from people, telling you to take this up directly with the person in question, yet you ignored all of it.
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It is my opinion that you deliberately set up this post to 'name and shame' but in a way so that YOU have not put any names down. IMO this is ridiculous & childish behaviour.

I understand completely (if I have got this right) that you are upset because a horse you sold on is 'not well' and you have not been informed but for God's sake why is there a need to bring this up in public??

I feel for MrsElle, really I do. All she has posted for is advice and support - she has done you no wrong at all.

As for you 'not wanting to create a stir on here' what a load of cr*p. It seems that is exactly what you wanted to do.
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I have read the whole thread and am a little (understatement?!) confused? One second the horse was sold, then loaned, sold, loaned, sold, loaned?!
 
i have to say i sussed out who she was talking about from the first page, however mrselle has never been anything but nice about you she may come on here for help (don't we all?) and i wouldn't be concerned about the care she has given either of your horses and she had the good will to take chad on even though she didn't have to so if i were you i would go talk to her and apoligse in person. as for elle she hs cared for and if she has concerns for her health then i'm positive she will do what she feels is fit to safeguard her wellbeing.
 
Note: names have been changed because I can't remember all the proper ones!

OP had an old horse 'Goldy' - loaned out to a MrsX (a regular on here).

OP bought another horse 'Fred' and immediately loaned him out to MrsX.

MrsX wanted to buy Fred (happy to keep Goldy until end of days whenever that might be). I remember the posts, MrsX fell head over heels for Fred and wanted to buy him off OP, but OP not want to sell.

OP wanted Fred back, but happy to leave Goldy with MrsX.

OP sold Goldy to MrsX - all happy.

Fred went back/is going back to OP.

MrsX bought another horse (nothing to do with OP), and still has the Goldy (the first one that was loaned to her by OP, which MrsX then bought off OP).

MrsX posted that older horse was not too happy - in my view it was one of those posts that one does when one is contemplating life and things start to block up in ones mind; it's a good way of guaging whether one is over-reacting or not. Person did not at the time discuss with OP who was still the owner, but they were in the middle of the sale from OP to the person, so MrsX was not looking at a way out of the deal. OP feels that it was wrong to hear of MrsX's possible unhappiness via a Forum.

Fred had some dental issues - neither MrsX's nor OP's fault.

MrsX is a regular poster on the Forum. OP is new (though has been lurking for a while). OP did not discuss her upset with MrsX before posting this thread. OP is disucssing today with MrsX.

That, if I've got it right, is the general gist. Note: I'm a friend of MrsX so I may be biased, but I've tried to be balanced
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Edited to put some names in - not the real ones, but to help the flow
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Thank you MrsM, can I just ask what does OP and QR stand for?

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OP = Original Poster (the person who started the thread).

QR = Quick Reply (not necessarily a response to the post immediately above - not always used
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Ok, so reular user on here now owns horse so technically doesn't have to tell OP all the ins and outs?

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Indeed. But, according to the OP, the deal was not quite done and she would have liked to have known if there were any issues. OP has no issues at all with the way MrsX has looked after the horses
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Mrs M I am still confused, cant you call person 1 and person 2 Jack & Fred to make it simple
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ETA: And give the horses names like Goldie, Harry & Tink
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Done
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Much clearer thank you
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Ok, so all this is clear in my mind now. To Flowerpower, I apologise for doubting you last night.
However, and I will be a bit blunt here. You loaned out your 27 yr old horse, in dec, to MrsElle, in poor condition, as a riding horse. MrsElle has done her best to get condition back on her over that winter and has now been signed over as of the 20th june. The horse is now legally hers, so if she decides that it's time for here to be PTS, then she does not have to involve you at all, if she doesn't want to. If you were so concerned for the horse's welfare, then I question your decision to loan out an old horse in poor condition, knowing that she is nearing the end of her days. You say she is the 'love of your life', then why have you passed her onto someone else, instead of allowing her to spend the rest of her days with you and have a dignified end, with you. Now she is with someone else, who is prepared to give her that dignified end, you are angry that you are not being involved in it.
Sorry, but in my mind, you have passed the buck onto someone else. I saw the pictures of the mare when MrsElle first got her, and I wouldn't dream of loaning out a horse, in that condition and at that age.
It's about time that people took responsibilty for their OAPs and not just pass them on. Luckily for Ellie, she has found a good home with someone who will do the right thing.
Sorry if you don't like what I have said, but it's how I feel about older horses.
 
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Does anybody else not have the foggiest what is going on here??

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Was confused last night but after some of MrsM's light refreshments and detective lhotse's post it's now making sense.
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Have a read of lhotse's post again, look through the titles in the last few pages of New Lounge and things should become clearer.
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