What breed is this?

Yep they are still allowed to crop ears here and they do it a lot.
I have asked around and they seemed to have no real reason other than its what the breed should look like.
 
Its funny, the hysteria about Pitts- because I have seen a bite force test, between a Pittbull, a GSD and a rottweiler and the rottweiler won at around 300lbs (presume thats per sq inch)
 
Apparently there was something on TV about that recently?

The Dutch herders and Malis have a very strong bite too, although they look very wiry compared to some of the bull breeds. It's not the poundage that the dogs can exert which is the concern about the bull breeds, it's the poundage as well as their propensity to hang on and not let go.
Herders, Malis, Sheps, Rotties, Dobes, whatever are all expected to give a firm full bite and not let go until instructed, sadly in the fighting rings, pits and the other breeds including the Tosa are not expected or told to let go.

Having said that, Pits do quite well in sport in the USA and there are a number of American bulldogs competing in the UK.

(I know someone who assesses breed traits for pits, hence my geekery on the topic :p)
 
Granted, however I'm sure in most of these crazy stories of Pitts attacking kids have been simple bites (well if you can trust the reports I guess) rather than parents and grandmothers reporting the dog wouldn't let go of the child etc. Or maybe thats the stories I have read!
 
Well I know someone who was on the scene at one of those fatalities and said it was like a horror movie :( :( :(

But also to remember (public service announcement :o and I know I am repeating myself) the best way to get a dog off another dog, off another child, ANYTHING is to cut off the air supply with whatever you have to hand, lead, broom shaft, whatever - kicking and punching and screaming, while easy to do in the heat of the moment, will make a drive-y dog hang on harder.
 
It all boils down to No child should be left with ANY dog.

How they bite doesn't matter if they are never in a position where they would need to. As the owner and protector of my dog, even though he is fantastic with kids and does reading with rover, i just don't put him in a position where he feels he can't escape if he needs to. I don't make him "put up" with anything. If he's not enjoying it we don't do it simples. That all results in a dog that has a very very low bite risk.
 
Oh really CC ? Now I was lead to believe even though Pitts intrinsically know how to bite and hang on, it was a trait like any that needed to be nurtured in order to bring it out of them properly. I wasn't aware that any of these attacks was a bite-hold attack!
 
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I wasn't aware that any of these attacks was a bite-hold attack!
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Which attacks? You mean the recent fatalities in the UK?
Most of the recent ones have not yet come to court so I can't comment. The last high-profile one that came to court, the poor kid had over 70 bites :( so no, you couldn't call it a hold/bite situation, but not a simple bite either.
But we know the type of person who owned the dog, and as you say 'nurtured' it :(

Katie, that sounds awesome :D
 
Because it wasn't really a family dog. It was a status accessory. So that when he is walking down the street in his burberry with a can of fosters in his hand he can look "ard"
 
Indeed, and it had already attacked his sister.
Those boys can pose and swagger and rile their dogs up all they want, but when their dogs do kick off, they don't actually know enough to have a clue what to do (and usually, aren't around when they do :()

There are plenty of sport dogs and police/PP dogs living in family homes, the difference is, they are well trained, controlled and serve a purpose and are loved and looked after, they are not some sort of penis extension.

(Loves how HHO goes off on tangents :p)
 
I had 2 pubescent boys who came up to me trying to buy my 2 staffies when at a recent show. To say I was taken aback would be an understatement and when I asked why they said it was to"protect them".

To say I put them right would be an understatement. Friend found it hysterical but wasn't sure if it was the wording or the "well spoken" tones that most surprised the boys.
 
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Depends on his age i would think. My English Mastiff is 9 months and is developing her jowels now. They dont get really saggy till a bit later. I dont know much about Neos tbh but my initial thought was mastiff of some kind.

If you look back at my posts you will find pics of my puppy. She isnt really jowelly yet.
 
The instinct to get hold and stay on is instinctive to most terriers;it is even apparent amongst a litter of puppies,what is also inbred into them is the response to squealing,to any terrier it means "red zone". All bull breeds out in public SHOULD wear a leather buckle collar,with only a "two finger" looseness to it..worn nearer the head than the shoulders. To STOP a bullie or terrier fighting ..simply grab collar..push the dog`s nose INTO it`s victim and twist the collar as a tourniquet,if you can at the same time get an arm under it`s midrif at the same time and lift that end up of the floor,even better.The collar will cut off the blood supply to the brain,dog loosens grip and drops off.IMMEDIATELY turn away with the dog ,as soon as it comes `round it will go again.The bite power on pits is 1200 lbs I have been told.
 
Yes, there is a clip on youtube of some documentary testing Rotts, GSD and a Pitts bite force, the Rott wins hands down, with the Pitt second and the GSD last.
 
Well all I know is that a pit bull can crunch a tough weldmesh fence into a bit of wire pulp a whole lot easier than any GSD or Rottie!And that is from actual experience ,not some U Tube test.:D
 
Well the tests i have been looking at have been reputable studies showing that a pitbull has about 30lbs of pressure less than a GSD and around 50lbs than a rottie.
 
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