What do you all think of this advert?

I think the difference is that it is a dealer trying to offload a "problem" horse, fair enough in an honest way, rather than the product of a genuinely ignorant or uncaring owner who has given no thought as to the horses future.

This horse has for whatever reason ended up in a professional yard that still has been unable or cannot be bothered to deal with it. If the horse belonged to a poster on here and they were asking for help and advice, that would come in many forms from full vet work ups, potentially costing far more than the £500 asking price, to pts and everything in between.

Hopefully someone may take a chance on him but it could be a very long and expensive road ahead.
 
Can't look at the add as I'm on my phone, but I was going to go look at a horse at ebor house stables before I found one.. Maybe I'm glad I didn't?
 
The wording of the advert seems to me to be aimed at getting people who think they know a lot, but in reallity know very little, to go and buy the horse. Anyone who does know enough, knows enough to go no-where near it. We have helped a friend by a pony for her children, from the field with no tack. We walked her on the road to check for traffic proofness and then sister legged me up in their lunge pit, to ensure that the mare did not freak and bronk when someone sat on her. To be told, we are selling from the field and if you know anything about horses you wont expect to even sit on it, a quite ordinary and short striding animal, suggests that they only want people who will overate their abilities.
 
YorksG said:
The wording of the advert seems to me to be aimed at getting people who think they know a lot, but in reallity know very little, to go and buy the horse. Anyone who does know enough, knows enough to go no-where near it. We have helped a friend by a pony for her children, from the field with no tack. We walked her on the road to check for traffic proofness and then sister legged me up in their lunge pit, to ensure that the mare did not freak and bronk when someone sat on her. To be told, we are selling from the field and if you know anything about horses you wont expect to even sit on it, a quite ordinary and short striding animal, suggests that they only want people who will overate their abilities.
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It's interesting how perceptions differ I read the add to say right we declared its difficult to get on so don't come back to us on that but then to be told on a dealers yard they aren't even prepared to demonstrate the issue before you buy now from a private buyer you might understand that but from a dealer ! then add the whole appearance of the horse ridden and on the lunge and the fact it's not shown cantering ridden ekkkkk.
 
It's honest but gutless from a dealer why can't it be sorted if that is our stock trade, but and this is the rub I'd take this anyday over the calculating young cow who sold me mine pretending to be a private seller with the horse trading track record of a dealer.
 
Have any of you actually read the advert properly ?

Firstly study picture 2, conformation of the cob's back.

Declared as nervous to mount = will either rush away with a few bucks or, possibly with fatal consequences, go up and over on the rider.

Declared as have ridden the cob = how many acp used for the trot round to enable a video to be done.

Declared not in work = too dangerous for us to get on, sell from field, no comeback if purchaser not hurt whilst trying horse on our property and we told them not to ride the cob.

Declared think the the horse has been scared = we know it's dangerous.

Declared moves well = they have never seen a good moving horse if they think this one moves well = they don't have a clue.

That is how to read the advert, the pony is very likely to have been injured in the past and now in pain when ridden which would account for the drama when mounting and the poor mobility, look closely at the steps taken when he lands and gets away from the fence. Maybe someone will have him as a companion or someone with bottomless pockets to fund vet work with him. I expect he has seen the inside of many an auction pen. Sadly there are plenty like him in the low end dealers yards and it will never change.
 
Honey08 said:
Ten isn't old!

Its stride is choppy and stressed as it has issues that need resolving. It would need a complete reschool and given chance to sort it's head out, find out if there are pain related issues (doubt a dealer would have bothered doing checks). Who knows what it could turn into after six months of calm handling and schooling? I've had dreadful things to school in the past that have turned into lovely school horses or kids ponies. I'm not saying you would buy it and transform it overnight and sell it on.. I'm just saying people are being overly negative - its not the best horse in the world, but its not the worst thing either and the ad is not lying about its issues... Don't be so negative.
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I think people are being negative because it is a horse for sale and it is ill-advised to buy such a horse unless you have a couple of thousand pounds to spend on vets, physios, saddlers, livery, lessons, etc. and the desire to risk life and limb to POSSIBLY end up with a nice horse...or you could go out and buy a nice horse now.

If it was someone's actual horse there would be a point in being more positive as they would already own it and would have no choice.
 
I'm with YorksG on this one. I think the advert is written to attract someone who is overconfident in their abilities and thinks they will get a great horse for very little money. Neither a great horse, nor very little money, nor an easy project!
 
AdorableAlice said:
Have any of you actually read the advert properly ?

Firstly study picture 2, conformation of the cob's back.

Declared as nervous to mount = will either rush away with a few bucks or, possibly with fatal consequences, go up and over on the rider.

Declared as have ridden the cob = how many acp used for the trot round to enable a video to be done.

Declared not in work = too dangerous for us to get on, sell from field, no comeback if purchaser not hurt whilst trying horse on our property and we told them not to ride the cob.

Declared think the the horse has been scared = we know it's dangerous.

Declared moves well = they have never seen a good moving horse if they think this one moves well = they don't have a clue.

That is how to read the advert, the pony is very likely to have been injured in the past and now in pain when ridden which would account for the drama when mounting and the poor mobility, look closely at the steps taken when he lands and gets away from the fence. Maybe someone will have him as a companion or someone with bottomless pockets to fund vet work with him. I expect he has seen the inside of many an auction pen. Sadly there are plenty like him in the low end dealers yards and it will never change.
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Exactly AA you read the same add as me.
 
i can see where some of you are coming from but i disagree that anything you buy from the field is dodgy i think her advert is honest i bought my mare from the field a big girl had a few trust issues 16 months down the line she is the best horse i have ever owned excellent on the road had a few issues with the school but now going great the only prob i have is she is a cow when in seanson but i am dealing with that now i would rather an honest advert than a load of lies
 
I agree not everything bought from the field is dodgy, but the circumstances surrounding this particular one brings up a lot of red flags Cassie.
 
cassie summers said:
i can see where some of you are coming from but i disagree that anything you buy from the field is dodgy i think her advert is honest i bought my mare from the field a big girl had a few trust issues 16 months down the line she is the best horse i have ever owned excellent on the road had a few issues with the school but now going great the only prob i have is she is a cow when in seanson but i am dealing with that now i would rather an honest advert than a load of lies
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But was yours bought from a dealer that had tried and failed to ride her or from an inexperienced owner that had taken on more than they could manage, that is the big difference this little horse in the ad has been given a chance in a pro yard and they cannot sort it, there are likely to be physically issues as well as mental ones, whoever buys it is taken a potentially very expensive risk.
 
Nothing wrong with it IMO. However, if you were to buy this horse it would be a huge gamble and anyone doing so would have to have nerves of steel, excellent competence and be prepared to cut their losses and PTS or retire the horse if it doesn't work out. There could also be a major medical isse that is making this horse act the way that it does.

ETA - I have not studied the video. Will do now and may change my view.
 
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be positive said:
But was yours bought from a dealer that had tried and failed to ride her or from an inexperienced owner that had taken on more than they could manage, that is the big difference this little horse in the ad has been given a chance in a pro yard and they cannot sort it, there are likely to be physically issues as well as mental ones, whoever buys it is taken a potentially very expensive risk.
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no very true mine wasnt bought from a dealer and yes i do think that she is off loading a problem horse for what she can get but i was just saying that having bought my mare from the field i am very happy with the outcome she was 7 when i got her and never even been sat on so i did have a blank canvas to work with if this dealer just wants rid i dont see why she hasnt just put the horse through the market though i do feel sorry for it but unfortunatly there are hundreds if not thousands of these poor broken horses
 
The best horse I ever bought and still have was brought from the field 10 yrs ago. The first time I got on her she reared up and had me off in the yard. Best hunting horse ever and will never sell her.

I would take this horse as it's the sort of thing I enjoy doing. But nobody actually knows what he does or how bad he is so a lot off people are judging on a horse they don't actually know.

I know a dealer who would only work with stright forward horses, any with a issue and he was perpaired to put any time into as he got less money back in the long run.
The horse may not be as bad as some think.

And I stick by my first comment about it being a nice ad, what would u perfer? The horse up for thousands and on bute or doped and sold to a unawre owner?

People here are never happy.
 
thatsmygirl said:
The best horse I ever bought and still have was brought from the field 10 yrs ago. The first time I got on her she reared up and had me off in the yard. Best hunting horse ever and will never sell her.

I would take this horse as it's the sort of thing I enjoy doing. But nobody actually knows what he does or how bad he is so a lot off people are judging on a horse they don't actually know.

I know a dealer who would only work with stright forward horses, any with a issue and he was perpaired to put any time into as he got less money back in the long run.
The horse may not be as bad as some think.

And I stick by my first comment about it being a nice ad, what would u perfer? The horse up for thousands and on bute or doped and sold to a unawre owner?

People here are never happy.
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Oh I am perfectly happy , perfectly happy to say on the basis of the add ( whose honesty I acknowledge) and looking at the video clip I would not consider this horse even it was given away.
 
The ad omits plenty would be my guess! Most horse ads do. You have to read between the cleverly worded lines.

For Sale Due to Lack of Time: Rider cannot afford to spend anymore time in the hospital.
Good Mover: Hasn’t fallen over recently
Big Trot: can't canter
He Can Do It All: bite, kick, buck, rear...
Needs Experienced Rider: Potentially Lethal
Good Jumping prospect: Looks great jumping over the paddock fence, if you can ever catch'im, you might just have yourself a great jumper!

:D
 
In my opinion, I would hazard a guess that the horse needs someone with a lot more time than a sales yard can give it. It's not a 4 week turnaround job and therefore, will not make them any profit on him after upkeep//time/space/physiol checks etc...and not the type they can do anything to rush through with him to get him 'sorted' and sold quick. So, the only option is, cut their losses on him, be bluntly honest, drop the price and find someone who has the time for a project of his scale.

Seems genuine enough to be honest. If a numpty is stupid enough to buy him for just being a 'cheap' horse, then more fool them, he's been advertised honestly enough as to what his physical problem is so that's life really.
 
ChristmasSparkles said:
In my opinion, I would hazard a guess that the horse needs someone with a lot more time than a sales yard can give it. It's not a 4 week turnaround job and therefore, will not make them any profit on him after upkeep//time/space/physiol checks etc...and not the type they can do anything to rush through with him to get him 'sorted' and sold quick. So, the only option is, cut their losses on him, be bluntly honest, drop the price and find someone who has the time for a project of his scale.

Seems genuine enough to be honest. If a numpty is stupid enough to buy him for just being a 'cheap' horse, then more fool them, he's been advertised honestly enough as to what his physical problem is so that's life really.
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This!
 
ChristmasSparkles said:
In my opinion, I would hazard a guess that the horse needs someone with a lot more time than a sales yard can give it.
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This was my first thought..

There was a pony on my yard very similar to this with issues like nervous mounting etc and noone on the yard had enough time to work with him everyday. YM was very clear in the ad about his problems and advertised him free to a good home. He was sold from the field and is doing brilliantly with his new owner.

I'd like to think this was the case with this horse, but you never know.
 
ChristmasSparkles said:
In my opinion, I would hazard a guess that the horse needs someone with a lot more time than a sales yard can give it. It's not a 4 week turnaround job and therefore, will not make them any profit on him after upkeep//time/space/physiol checks etc...and not the type they can do anything to rush through with him to get him 'sorted' and sold quick. So, the only option is, cut their losses on him, be bluntly honest, drop the price and find someone who has the time for a project of his scale.

Seems genuine enough to be honest. If a numpty is stupid enough to buy him for just being a 'cheap' horse, then more fool them, he's been advertised honestly enough as to what his physical problem is so that's life really.
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That particular dealer has a good reputation around this area, from what I've heard (including for honesty).

I read the advert in the same way you did.
 
hmmm, no I personally wouldn't buy him. From the photos he looks a nice enough sort but rang alarm bells immediately when I saw it was a trade ad *nut job* sprang to mind.

didn't like the way he jumped and dropped his head on landing so much, very strange action and looked like he wanted to put in a buck each time.

Hopefully someone with the time / experience will buy him and sort him out or do the right thing and PTS

*sitsbackandwaitsforincomingfortheptscomment*
 
A couple off people have said the dealer has a good reputation so hopefully anybody asking questions will get honest answers.
I hope he gets a good home, if he was down in Devon I would give him the chance
 
Just from the video - I wouldn't be entirely sure that horse is sound, but I presume sold from the field doesn't mean no vetting, does it?
It moves, ahem, average, but who knows, might be a useful sort once dealt with.
 
LollyDolly said:
http://www.horsemart.co.uk/show_jumpers_horse_10_yrs_15_0_hh_black_north_york/advert/246139



I don't know whether to admire the honesty or be shocked at the thought of someone not being able to ride him whilst viewing without be labelled as incompetent :eek:
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If an honest ad I'd go for the fact that someone thinking it would be okay to jump on him and ride straight out the field wouldn't have the common sense or knowledge around horses to know that it wasn't safe. Weeds out the time wasters if made clear from the start he won't be sat on there.
Needs someone to commit and put the time in and the bond, not just be worked by different people constantly.
I don't mind the ad, could've been worded better but probably gets more of the right response for those genuinely wanting him.

Their other adverts look fairly genuine too. Problems/limits are stated openly.
 
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I don't mind the ad, could've been worded better
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That's what my problem with the ad was, I am well aware that a horse which is being sold from the field can't just be saddled up and ridden and you would be a novice to think that.
However, it is the wording of the ad which I didn't like. In my opinion I felt like they were being a touch hostile and this would put me off going to see him, mainly because they don't seem very approachable. Seeing as the horse wouldn't be doing an awful lot during the viewing I would want to have a very detailed and lengthy discussion with the current owners in order to help build up a picture of what the horse is really like.

As for the viewing, would I be naive in expecting to be able to see him loosely tacked up, such as having a bridle put on and a saddle on his back? Just to gauge his reaction? Also to be able to handle him a lot on the ground such as basic leading with a head collar, pick up his feet, groom, touch over his body etc. etc.?

I'm not actually going to see him but I would be interested to know what other people would expect to get from viewing a quirky horse from the field!
 
LollyDolly said:
That's what my problem with the ad was, I am well aware that a horse which is being sold from the field can't just be saddled up and ridden and you would be a novice to think that.
However, it is the wording of the ad which I didn't like. In my opinion I felt like they were being a touch hostile and this would put me off going to see him, mainly because they don't seem very approachable. Seeing as the horse wouldn't be doing an awful lot during the viewing I would want to have a very detailed and lengthy discussion with the current owners in order to help build up a picture of what the horse is really like.

As for the viewing, would I be naive in expecting to be able to see him loosely tacked up, such as having a bridle put on and a saddle on his back? Just to gauge his reaction? Also to be able to handle him a lot on the ground such as basic leading with a head collar, pick up his feet, groom, touch over his body etc. etc.?

I'm not actually going to see him but I would be interested to know what other people would expect to get from viewing a quirky horse from the field!
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Agreed.
I see no reason it shouldn't have the above done, I'd certainly expect to see it's handling and have it at a stage ready to vet but agree that it's bad enough viewing horses anyway without the added hostility. I expect they've put this ad up after having had multiple time waster viewings.

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