How could we have stopped that if she was given away?
..but what is untrainable to some people, might be fixable to others? some people have huge success with horses that have been deemed dangerous/evil/untrainable ..so thats subjective. If someone was planning to pts/ slaughter a horse they deemed evil ..is that right or wrong?? because one person cannot succeed with a horse, whats to say the next person will not deem it as their horse of a lifetime?
..but what is untrainable to some people, might be fixable to others? some people have huge success with horses that have been deemed dangerous/evil/untrainable ..so thats subjective. If someone was planning to pts/ slaughter a horse they deemed evil ..is that right or wrong?? because one person cannot succeed with a horse, whats to say the next person will not deem it as their horse of a lifetime?
?!!?! You don't trust others in the horse industry yet are willing to give valueless horses away to people you don't know very well, in the HOPE that they look after them ok?!?!
But they are YOUR oldies? Not someone elses old horses you've collected? They've been your riding horse for you before that? Many (probably most) people keep their old horses after they retire becasue they don't want to give them away. And the young riding ponies, many many people do that: buy young unbroken scruffs, bring them on and sell them to cover costs. Did you do it all free of charge? You must be better off then most people, lucky you.
They we old when given to me, had them for many years until the end (which was out of my control) I had many years of hacking with one yes but have had one with navicular who could not be ridden. The ponies were not bought or sold, I had every intention of keeping until the request (after I had broken them) to be pony club ponies.
But you HAVE been riding your TB? He's been your riding horse and has given you something? You'd never have taken him on if he'd never been ridable in the first place. So again you're being awfully hypocrictical?! Why wouldn't you just give him away once he can't be ridden, since you seem to be in favour of it, and get another ridden horse?
Yes I turned him away for a year and a half and re-backed and schooled him, it would not have mattered to me if he could not be ridden... I am going to try some jumping with him soon but it doesn't matter to me if he can`t do it, yes I ride him but that is not the reason I keep him and I would not swap him for a ridden horse. If I could no longer afford him at any point in the future I would re-home him yes.
No, there really aren't lots of people like you. You sound like you're running a charity? Very few people buy or rehome a horse, esp a bigger horse, simply to be a pet and never ridden. There are people who take on companions but there are far more damaged and unridable horses out there than people looking for companions.
I do what I can for the horses that need me and I am proud of the ones I have saved from the bullet so far and will continue to do what I can, I understand that for some to be PTS is best and I don't agree with keeping a horse alive that is suffering or will be in the near future, I know how hard the decision to PTS is as I have been there myself, though I have seen a horse that is ready to go go quietly and I have seen a horse not ready to go fight it and that will haunt me for the rest of my days!
Sadly plenty of peopleDO take on difficult, older or slightly injured horses, try (to varying success) to fix them and sell them on, sometimes to unsuspecting new owners. Which is passing the problems on.
I do not agree with dealing like this either.
Kalli was indeed PTS after a year of vet investigations. Her behaviour was pain related. For various reasons (namely agression and seperation issues) she couldn't have been just turned out as a pet.
That is very sad, and im sure the decision was difficult for her owner, sounds like she did the right thing though.
HOWEVER plenty of people would have given her away as a companion. The vet even suggested it. She was fabulous to handle and a really quiet, gentle big horse. She would also have carried a beginner rider round in walk and trot just fine, until you asked her to canter. She could very easily have been sold on as a hacking horse to a novice rider
Hypocritical much
Hypocritical much
a bit of a double standard going on there is there not ?
Why would anyone on your yard ask a farrier or vet to do anything to your horse without your permission ? You dont trust people on your yard not to let any vet/farrier practice on your horse, you dont trust your vet or farrier unless youre there, but a couple of visits to vet a home and you'll hand some poor bloomin, possibly aged or infirm horse over to relative strangers
I am missing the point? I made the point in the first place...
obviously there is going to be an element of risk, but so is selling...
I now see the point of people trying to get something for nothing and sell it on to make money however I don't think it is worth ending a healthy life for, who said anything about spending thousands of pounds on anything? my horse certainly doesn't cost thousands of pounds (well maybe after quite a few more years anyway) sat in front of a fire? we are still talking about horses??
I am sure that for these horses pts is far preferable to a miserable existence.It is part of the conditions here that a vet must be called if circumstances warrant.
There isn't just an element of risk though, there's a huge risk for an old/injured horse.
Selling on isn't the only thing that can happen, as you say they may need expensive treatment a few years down the line and new owners may not be so committed to caring for a horse passed on for nothing, there are already hundreds of neglected horses in the country, there is no way that mine would end up facing that risk.
If you don't think that an old horse being sold on is worth pts instead then please, please visit one of the lower end auctions one day; I have seen the same horses dragged from sale ring to sale ring waiting for god knows what fate and sold for peanuts. The sad thing is that this was probably someones much loved and cared for horse at some point.
