What was Jamie Grays' line of business?

[dozzie]

Yes I did.

I havent got time to explain as I need to go to work. It will take a while to explain! But I will get back to you.

 

[Happy Horse]

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I havent got time to explain as I need to go to work. It will take a while to explain! But I will get back to you.

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Thanks, I'd be interested to find out.

I have been doing my sums, 32 dead horses and 111 removed is a fataility rate of 22%. Presumably if the cause of death was not a result of the management or conditions on the farm as we are expected to believe and this is an acceptable rate of loss for livestock a further 24 horses should in theory have died since being removed if the care being provided at Spindles Farm was as good as we are supposed to believe. I have heard of one that died since removal - have there been any others?

 

[Gingernags]

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I have been doing my sums, 32 dead horses and 111 removed is a fataility rate of 22%. Presumably if the cause of death was not a result of the management or conditions on the farm as we are expected to believe and this is an acceptable rate of loss for livestock a further 24 horses should in theory have died since being removed if the care being provided at Spindles Farm was as good as we are supposed to believe. I have heard of one that died since removal - have there been any others?

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Wow, putting it like that is pretty blunt reading isn't it? Can't see how anyone can defend him on that basis.

 

[jacks_mum]

Sadly the maths doesn't work like that. You would need to determine the date of death of the longest dead animal and then ascertain how many horses JG had through his doors between that date of death and the date of the raid in order to get a true percentage of death rate. It may be that the longest dead had been dead for 5 years and in that interveneing 5 years he had had a million horses through his premises, which would give a very low death rate. However if the longest dead was 6 weeks and he had had only those 143 horses through his doors in that time then as you say, a high death rate.

 

[SpruceRI]

As someone said on here, where are all his satisfied customers?

You'd think at least ONE person would come out of the woodwork admitting (or claiming) to have bought a horse from him that they love/loved??

Even if he only sells to traders (which I believe he must do) in UK or abroad, you'd think wouldn't you, that one of them would come forward in the Press at least and state that all the horses they bought from him were in good nick?

 

[Happy Horse]

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Sadly the maths doesn't work like that. You would need to determine the date of death of the longest dead animal and then ascertain how many horses JG had through his doors between that date of death and the date of the raid in order to get a true percentage of death rate. It may be that the longest dead had been dead for 5 years and in that interveneing 5 years he had had a million horses through his premises, which would give a very low death rate. However if the longest dead was 6 weeks and he had had only those 143 horses through his doors in that time then as you say, a high death rate.

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We are led to believe that the deaths all occured over no more than a couple of weeks if Patty is to be believed (the carcasses had all rotted quickly in the rain apparently) they were just waiting to be buried...... Of course if the carcasses had been hanging around for much longer then yes, the rate would seem more realistic

 

[jacks_mum]

to be fair we are only looking at a possible snapshot in time and without extensive and accurate records it is impossible to put a death rate percentage on JG's business. Is not really like looking at a GP% unless you want to compare QOQ or YOY figures.

 

[brighteyes]

Have you jumped ship?

 

[Paddywhack]

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Have you jumped ship?

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I was thinking the same

Someone GOT to text me after the sentencing !
How I wish that I could be there with my thick tar and feathers but I am in another country attending my nieces graduation on the 12th and then I am off on a business trip until Tuesday