Whats she worth ?

[sintrago1]

Ive a 20 yo ex jumper 15.1h been there done it dressage / x country whatever you want. Shes dutch bred was 10k 17 years ago. She has been retired for 2 years for no other reason than i played polo. Shes sound and perfect. Ive met someone looking for a school mistress. I thought about my perfectly good horse sat in my field. So today i sat on her just to guage where we are and she was perfect as always. Fat but perfectly well behaved! Felt great, ready to go. Going to let this person try her but no idea what so ever of a amount i would ask if she likes her. Any ideas what she would be worth? Shes a v professional thinking horse if that makes sense, no messing about. No health issue in 17 years! ...the only reason im concidering this is ive retired a polo pony and just haven't enough money for another. Be greatful for any advice

 

[cloverlea]

Put her out on loan. Once you sell her you have no control on where she may end up.

 

[JBM]

Well personally wouldn’t value her at much because at 20 and being retired for 2 years she would need a very slow introduction back into ridden work as she would have lost a lot of muscle.

 

[Bellaboo18]

I'd only loan out a 20 year old personally.
Hmm but to answer your question, 2k given that she's sold from the field and age isn't on her side.

 

[Bellaboo18]

I'll add, i'd expect some of her things in that price.

 

[PurpleSpots]

Until she's in whatever work she's going to do there's no guarantee she'll stay sound, comfortable and willing.

Like others, I'd only be prepared to loan at this point, or at a push LWVTB.

That is if it really is in her best interests to come back into work at this point?

 

[sintrago1]

I'd only loan out a 20 year old personally.
Hmm but to answer your question, 2k given that she's sold from the field and age isn't on her side.

My thinking is 2k isnt enough for me sell her, i mean id rather keep her in field and know she safe with me for 2k

 

[sintrago1]

Until she's in whatever work she's going to do there's no guarantee she'll stay sound, comfortable and willing.

Like others, I'd only be prepared to loan at this point, or at a push LWVTB.

That is if it really is in her best interests to come back into work at this point?

Im as certain as can be that she will stay sound but if its in her best interests, im not sure i dont know how to answer that really. How do i know if shed rather potter in the field or work again lightly and get fussed ...no idea

 

[Bellaboo18]

My thinking is 2k isnt enough for me sell her, i mean id rather keep her in field and know she safe with me for 2k

I think I've been generous at 2k hence me adding i'd expect some of her things at that price. Almost a starter pack for the new owner so they weren't then paying out a lot more on her.
What do you feel she's worth?
Buying a horse that's been out of work for two years (whatever the reason) is a huge risk and at 20...I'm talking myself closer to £1.5k to be honest.

 

[teacups]

This one started off at £9K I think - has gradually reduced price by £1K at a time, just reduced to £5K…presumably lack of interest.

It seems a lot for an older horse to me - could be fine for a few years hacking out, but equally could be only a year or less before they have to be retired.

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[JBM]

I bought my 19yo for 1.7k with wardrobe
She was out of work for a year
Similar schoolmaster type
But in euro

 

[Clodagh]

If it’s sell or keep in the field you’ve nothing to lose by loaning, new person gets a horse to love and ride and horse gets one to one care. If she’s not up to the work then she comes back to the field. At least you’ll save on her running costs

 

[Fieldlife]

I would do a loan with a view to buy. If you are sure they are both happy in six months time, sell her at a pre-agreed price. Assuming you have to reduce numbers, and you think this is good home.

 

[ihatework]

She’s worth protecting if she has given you that much service! I wouldn’t consider selling her. If I felt it in her best interests to work and I thought it would enhance her life then I’d loan her to a carefully selected person and oversee her care closely.

 

[ycbm]

My thinking is 2k isnt enough for me sell her, i mean id rather keep her in field and know she safe with me for 2k

She won't be guaranteed safe if you sell her no matter what price you sell her at. The only way you can safeguard her future is to continue to own her.

She's 20 and been out of work 2 years, she will be 21 before anyone has her fit and can tell that she is likely to stay sound for a while longer.

I have to say it feels to me as if you've got some very odd ideas about your horses. Your first thread on the forum was how to keep playing polo with a mare with an arthritic knee.

Arthritic knee

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Presumably what we told you was the case, that you needed to retire her from polo if you adored her as you claimed, has now been forced on you because she is lame. So you want another polo horse and your best thought is to take a 20 year old, which make no mistake is an OLD horse, out of retirement and flog her for whatever you can get for her as long as it's enough to let you buy another polo horse?
.

 

[sintrago1]

Until she's in whatever work she's going to do there's no guarantee she'll stay sound, comfortable and willing.

Like others, I'd only be prepared to loan at this point, or at a push LWVTB.

That is if it really is in her best interests to come back into work at this point?

Im as certain as can be that she will stay sound but if its in her best interests, im not sure i dont know how to answer that really. How do i know if shed rather potter in the field or work again lightly and get fussed ...

I would do a loan with a view to buy. If you are sure they are both happy in six months time, sell her at a pre-agreed price. Assuming you have to reduce numbers, and you think this is good home.

I dont really need to reduce numbers. The horse has a home for life with me, as i said i am only concidering it as a way of raising extra funds towards a new polo pony as have had to retire one. At 26 i might add!

 

[sintrago1]

She’s worth protecting if she has given you that much service! I wouldn’t consider selling her. If I felt it in her best interests to work and I thought it would enhance her life then I’d loan her to a carefully selected person and oversee her care closely.

I need money for another pony or wouldn't even be concidering it. As i said before how do i know if it would enhance her life or would she rather potter in field. Its hard to know the answer to that.

 

[IrishMilo]

You know those posts you see on Facebook where someone is desperately trying to find their old pony and then it transpires it was sold pillar to post, looks like a bag of bones and has led a depressing life for its last 5 years? That could be your horse.

So if you can stomach doing that to her then sell her. If not, keep her or put her to sleep.

 

[ihatework]

I need money for another pony or wouldn't even be concidering it. As i said before how do i know if it would enhance her life or would she rather potter in field. Its hard to know the answer to that.

Is she really that disposable to you?

 

[teacups]

Well, either loan with view to buy then, or just loan - and your saving is livery (though sounds as though you have your own land), vet, farrier, feed costs etc.

 

[sintrago1]

She won't be guaranteed safe if you sell her no matter what price you sell her at. The only way you can safeguard her future is to continue to own her.

She's 20 and been out of work 2 years, she will be 21 before anyone has her fit and can tell that she is likely to stay sound for a while longer.

I have to say it feels to me as if you've got some very odd ideas about your horses. Your first thread on the forum was how to keep playing polo with a mare with an arthritic knee.

Arthritic knee

First post here... so Hi ! Im interested if anyone has any belief in/ sucess with alternative arthritic relief. Have been reading about magnetic boots, different supplements, homeopathic oil rubs but i thought you all might be able to tell me if anything worth trying. Pony has it in one knee...

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Presumably what we told you was the case, that you needed to retire her from polo if you adored her as you claimed, has now been forced on you because she is lame. So you want another polo horse and your best thought is to take a 20 year old, which make no mistake is an OLD horse, out of retirement and flog her for whatever you can get for her as long as it's enough to let you buy another polo horse?
.

I appreciate that sounds bad when you put it like that. The retired polo pony is a different one. She is 26, The arthritic pony is still playing. I wouldn't flog for whatever its worth tho as you mention ! Id only sell her if it was a fair amount of money, if only worth the 2k people mention i wouldn't bother and keep her with me

 

[sintrago1]

Is she really that disposable to you?

Arh shes not disposal at all. To me 20 is still quite young. She is healthy and maybe could offer someone a few good years and help towards me buy a new pony.

 

[PurpleSpots]

Im as certain as can be that she will stay sound but if its in her best interests, im not sure i dont know how to answer that really. How do i know if shed rather potter in the field or work again lightly and get fussed ...

I think it's not a question of trying to guess at what she feels, it's more how did she used to behave when in work - not how good she was from your point of view, but what indicators she gave to show she enjoyed it.

What has she done in her behaviour since being out of work to indicate she might miss it?

And it's a case of weighing up the likely path of her last few years with you in a field, vs being ridden in another home. Will the new owners/loaners be able to interpret her behaviour well enough to know when she needs to retire - or indeed is uncomfortable or ill? Will she be as settled in a new place? What chance is there she'll be passed on again?

Those sorts of things.

 

[sintrago1]

I think it's not a question of trying to guess at what she feels, it's more how did she used to behave when in work - not how good she was from your point of view, but what indicators she gave to show she enjoyed it.

What has she done in her behaviour since being out of work to indicate she might miss it?

And it's a case of weighing up the likely path of her last few years with you in a field, vs being ridden in another home. Will the new owners/loaners be able to interpret her behaviour well enough to know when she needs to retire - or indeed is uncomfortable or ill? Will she be as settled in a new place? What chance is there she'll be passed on again?

Those sorts of things.

No i get it. I had awful anxiety just having the conversation with the person about maybe she could try the horse. Ive got 6 over 26, i wont put them to sleep i just look after them and so this horse seemed like a maybe i could try letting her go to someone else

 

[Fieldlife]

the problem with selling a horse over 20 is that they will likely only have a limited number of working years left, and the next person didnt have the benefit of her younger years, and may not want to pay the retirement debt for you. I think typically once a large horse reaches late teens / early 20's it is very hard to morally justify selling it for anything more than a token amount, as you are really asking the next person to secure their non ridden future for you too. Or are you thinking you could sell her for a decent amount and offer to have her back later if she needs to retire?

 

[Fieldlife]

No i get it. I had awful anxiety just having the conversation with the person about maybe she could try the horse. Ive got 6 over 26, i wont put them to sleep i just look after them and so this horse seemed like a maybe i could try letting her go to someone else

6 over 26 does paint a different picture!

 

[cauda equina]

No i get it. I had awful anxiety just having the conversation with the person about maybe she could try the horse. Ive got 6 over 26, i wont put them to sleep i just look after them and so this horse seemed like a maybe i could try letting her go to someone else

Loan her then

 

[sintrago1]

You know those posts you see on Facebook where someone is desperately trying to find their old pony and then it transpires it was sold pillar to post, looks like a bag of bones and has led a depressing life for its last 5 years? That could be your horse.

So if you can stomach doing that to her then sell her. If not, keep her or put her to sleep.

No i cant stomach that. I sold one about 7 years ago, they only had him a year and sold him on and i was so upset. But because of this thinking i have 6 over 26yo so i was just thinking that it might be a possibility to let her be rehomed and offer someone a good few years with a lovely horse

 

[sintrago1]

6 over 26 does paint a different picture!

They just keep going! If you want a horse to live a long time stable it with me. The one whos sound and 20 seems like a possibility for a new home but the reason i asked value as unless a fair amount of money i couldnt be bothered with the upset.

 

[sintrago1]

the problem with selling a horse over 20 is that they will likely only have a limited number of working years left, and the next person didnt have the benefit of her younger years, and may not want to pay the retirement debt for you. I think typically once a large horse reaches late teens / early 20's it is very hard to morally justify selling it for anything more than a token amount, as you are really asking the next person to secure their non ridden future for you too. Or are you thinking you could sell her for a decent amount and offer to have her back later if she needs to retire?

If i offer to have back, i may as well loan which defeats object of raising funds. If you could only guarantee that a buyer would always do the right thing but obviously you cant. Guess shes staying in the field. Ive another thats been on loan a year and a half and i could sell that one but its a similar situation that once sold i can never know her full future and shes happy where she is, yet i am ultimately responsible for her, But meanwhile i need a pony and some money which sounds bad but its reality. People sell horses all the time and somehow sleep at night, yet i suggest selling 1 and its the worst thing ever according to some of the replies