SaddlePsych'D
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Can you get her going again OP? I don't know if that will add much more on her value but perhaps increase her appeal to a genuine home.
Whats she worth ?
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sintrago1
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What you say about the retirement debt makes a lot of sense
Arzada
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I would get a cleaning job, any job rather than sell my elderly horse to raise funds for another horse. I'm trying to think why I would ever sell my elderly horse
No one needs another pony. Let's be truthful - you want another pony.
I don't sell horses which is exactly why I sleep at night. People are commenting on your specific thread not those of other sellers so let's cut the whataboutery.
sintrago1
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Gosh 11k sounds a lot. I think 5/6k sounds ok tho for a 'perfect' horse. I havent bought a normal horse in so so long im totally out of touch with costs. Polo is different and older horses can still.be a lot of money. You pay for experience and if they are easy to ride then even more money.This one started off at £9K I think - has gradually reduced price by £1K at a time, just reduced to £5K…presumably lack of interest.
It seems a lot for an older horse to me - could be fine for a few years hacking out, but equally could be only a year or less before they have to be retired.
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sintrago1
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Yes but ive 6 over 26 .. now they are elderly. Would she prefer to something than sit i thr field for potentially another 6 years. I have so many because i wont sell them. I was just thinking to break that pattern and sell.one so i can continue riding
sintrago1
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It was just a senario that has occurred and could be a possibility.
Yeah i suppose i could. But the thought never occured to me until i met someone who has been looking for ages and cant find what they after, they are paying to save a stable at a lovely yard, they have had horses before etc they just want to do a little bit, it seems like the possibility of a nice easy sale to 1 mile down the road without any stress. I dont think id actually go through the whole advertising and letting people try her etc. I dont thknk my nerves could take that.
It was just a senario that has occurred and could be a possibility.
SaddlePsych'D
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Whether you start her or not, if you choose to go ahead and sell her (at whatever price) it's going to have to involve accepting that you cannot guarantee her future, and that it may particularly precarious given her age.
Palindrome
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Could the person share or lease her instead? They'd be paying you, not a lump sum but it could go towards your "pony fund" or other savings and you still retain ownership.
JBM
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Yeah a lease may be an option but it wouldn’t be much. More than nothing
PurpleSpots
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It sounds like a difficult dilemma. We are responsible for our horses' quality of life, but we're also responsible for our own too. All beings only live once. And if we are unhappy it affects those around us - horses too. Having lots of older ones and no younger ones to focus on can be draining emotionally (as well as financially).
That said, if I had to make a choice between being around horses I love until the end without riding them vs just riding for the sake of riding there wouldn't be a choice to make. I also can't stand polo from the horse's point of view.
Only you can decide what truly feels like the right decision to make for you and the horses in question. You know more about everything to do with your situation and your horses than we do.
That said, if I had to make a choice between being around horses I love until the end without riding them vs just riding for the sake of riding there wouldn't be a choice to make. I also can't stand polo from the horse's point of view.
Only you can decide what truly feels like the right decision to make for you and the horses in question. You know more about everything to do with your situation and your horses than we do.
BigRedDog
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You asked how much people thought the horse was worth, general consensus c.£2,000. You said not enough.
I guess the question is how much do you need? If you can live with the thought she might be sold on to who knows where and what will happen ask the potential buyer for the amount you need to buy a new horse and see if they are prepared to pay.
I guess the question is how much do you need? If you can live with the thought she might be sold on to who knows where and what will happen ask the potential buyer for the amount you need to buy a new horse and see if they are prepared to pay.
sintrago1
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Is that such a thing? People pay to lease? That would be great to save up a pony fund as you say but i cant imagine anyone would want to do that as a long term thing
ihatework
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Plenty of people lease older schoolmasters. Rule of thumb is 10% of market value pa.
That way, provided horse is sound and doing the job, age is less of a concern. If a leaser gets a couple of good experience riding years then gives horse back they aren’t keeping them in retirement. But in reality you will need to get the horse fit first and then provided sound, you are talking £500-1000pa, which isn’t going to solve your immediate cash for polo issue.
stormox
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20 years is too old to sell, no one can guarantee a "forever home" someone may buy her re- passport her as a 12 year old and sell her on.....the horse is the loser 
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sintrago1
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Thanks. I appreciate you seeing it for the dilema it is. For what its worth my polo is very slow! Im rubbish, i just enjoy a few chukkas each week. The arthritic pony i mentioned has only just stopped flinching when you pat her she had no idea what i was doing. It can be a tough game for them but the ones who end up with me have a very easy life indeed.
I have my entire lifetime of horses. I love polo, could only afford an arthritic one so try to keep her going for as long as its not detrimental and it would be great to buy another and if selling one of the herd can help make this happen ...as you say a hard decision
sintrago1
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How can you re passport a microchipped horse? Am i missing something20 years is too old to sell, no one can guarantee a "forever home" someone may buy her re- passport her as a 12 year old and sell her on.....the horse is the lower
JBM
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You put another microchip in
PurpleSpots
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It is possible to locate the current one and cut it out in order to replace it as JBM said.
Also, microchips do stop working sometimes so this is an unscrupulous person's joy.
PurpleSpots
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I would only feel comfortable doing this if it truly was in the horse's best interests.
It's one thing to train a younger horse to set them up for a good and long future, but I wouldn't feel comfortable passing on an older horse to help suit my lifestyle. Equally though, it's better to be honest with yourself so your heart is in looking after the ones you have, otherwise it isn't fair on them.
Jenko109
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This doesn't make entirely comfortable reading.
You say she has a home for life.
You also say she can be sold if the buyer gives you enough money.
Which is it?
You say she has a home for life.
You also say she can be sold if the buyer gives you enough money.
Which is it?
sport horse
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Well perhaps thai is exactly what you should do.
AmyMay
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Rather than sell on a retired 20 year old horse, why not look at reducing numbers generally at the end of the summer? Spend six months stashing away what you’ve saved in feed, bedding, veterinary costs etc and buy the horse you want in the spring?
twiggy2
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I would speak to the person about a long term loan and review things in a year.
I wouldn't sell at that age.
I would be more inclined to reduce the number of retirees and save money to buy another.
I wouldn't sell at that age.
I would be more inclined to reduce the number of retirees and save money to buy another.
MuddyMonster
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To be honest, it's sounds a bit like you are considering selling her to fund your next horse but trying to talk yourself into it being for her benefit.
At 20, if she's served you well in the past & has been happily retired for a few years, selling her to be ridden doesn't sound in her best interests.
Can you loan or lease your next riding horse instead for a while? Or share a horse? Or wait until you've saved the full amount to needed buy.
As the owner of a fully fit 19 year old that has given me years of fun giving him a safe, comfortable future is far more important than securing my next ride if he couldn't be ridden. He's my friend & much loved horsey partner, I owe him that much (I owe him so much more than that, to be honest).
At 20, if she's served you well in the past & has been happily retired for a few years, selling her to be ridden doesn't sound in her best interests.
Can you loan or lease your next riding horse instead for a while? Or share a horse? Or wait until you've saved the full amount to needed buy.
As the owner of a fully fit 19 year old that has given me years of fun giving him a safe, comfortable future is far more important than securing my next ride if he couldn't be ridden. He's my friend & much loved horsey partner, I owe him that much (I owe him so much more than that, to be honest).
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stormox
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Many horses have been found to have 2 chips. I had one, it's a lot easier to re passport than it should be
SaddlePsych'D
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I feel I should add that I do not support this particular route. A loan perhaps but her being out of work complicates that a bit.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
It does sound bad. It's not the reality.
The reality is you want a pony, you do not need a pony.
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ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
A recent report suggested that 20,000 horses a year were going missing from Ireland and a scam where they were shipped to Germany and repassported as warmbloods before being transported south to an abattoir in, I think, Spain, was recently discussed on the forum.
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Timelyattraction
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This is so sad to read. If you were that desperate for another one I would be putting to sleep some of the older ones as you will no doubt save a fair amount over winter with not having to feed them. 6 is a lot of horses to feed! Put that to one side and what you could potentially sell your 20 year old for you could save in a few months
sintrago1
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It only occurred to me today has never even crossed my mind before, always presumed she would always be with me. Like my other 6 retired horses But i just thought maybe she might actually enjoy it. It might go well she is out 24/7 with me, she may enjoy all the pampering she might get for maybe a few years, getting spoilt a bit. Difficult to truly know what she would prefer.