Where do I stand?

I'm not certain. No one can be!

If it isn't real....no harm done. Just keep quiet.

But if it IS real....you've been incredibly nasty, to a real child who by the looks of it is getting really upset.

Proud??
 
OP, this is a really difficult situation and I'm not sure but I think you might have got caught up over your words on this thread, probably because of the accusations of cruelty you received first off. But you really shouldn't be turning to an internet forum as a last resort because the adults in your life have let you down. You need to find someone in your local area/family that can help, I wouldn't go taking the pony back on your own, particularly if you are having to walk him away.
 
Regandal said:
OP, what do you want a forum to do? You say your mother/grandfather/instructor won't help; you need to get an adult with some clout to speak to one of them.
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I agree with this, OP is there an adult you know who will help you do not ride the mare if you are afraid of her .
 
If your parents/grandparents won't let you have the pony back and the mare doesn't suit you then sell the mare. Nothing much you can do about the pony but hope that the now-owners aren't as bad as you think. Odd that they have been so diligent and good owners with all their other horses but aren't with the pony :confused:
 
Patterdale said:
I'm not certain. No one can be!

If it isn't real....no harm done. Just keep quiet.

But if it IS real....you've been incredibly nasty, to a real child who by the looks of it is getting really upset.

Proud??
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I agree with this so much if she's a troll so what you have wasted a bit of time you where wasting anyway .
 
Patterdale said:
I'm not certain. No one can be!

If it isn't real....no harm done. Just keep quiet.

But if it IS real....you've been incredibly nasty, to a real child who by the looks of it is getting really upset.

Proud??
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the language for a 15 year old is all wrong. I've said before if i was in any doubt. If they really needed help they would take the advice given and not provoked emotive debates.
 
Op seek help from someone close by, try riding schools, livery yards, im sure anyone with a heart would be willing to try and help out.

That said im leaving it there before i get accused of being a total ballbag ;)
 
3Beasties said:
But IS the pony still hers?! They swapped so in my eyes the pony is now owned by her 'friend' and the other horse is now the OP's.
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No, legally the pony is not still hers unless she can get the other party to agree to the original verbal contract. But legally it would be hard to prove one way or another so possession would probably be king in this situation.
 
If people think OP is lying then why even waste the short amount of time it takes to type "troll".

You'd think some members on here are paid by the troll claim.

OP...benefit of the doubt/call me a trusting fool/unsuspicious/don't have a troll nervous twitch...good luck, I hope you get your pony back, and that in the future you will be less easily swayed by the opinions of others. Easier said than done at 15 though.
 
Spring feather- the woman has just gone through a break up so isn't really concentrating on anything else so might not have noticed.

There is one person who might help me because she thinks that I should get the pony back but a lot of people are saying that I can't really do anything because we agreed to swap
 
SaskiasGirl said:
Spring feather- the woman has just gone through a break up so isn't really concentrating on anything else so might not have noticed.

There is one person who might help me because she thinks that I should get the pony back but a lot of people are saying that I can't really do anything because we agreed to swap
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You said early on that you had an agreement that if it didn't work out you could swap back. To be honest, if the adults aren't being helpful I would go to the lady myself and say that you weren't getting on with the broodmare and want to swap back.

Then once you've got your pony back you can see what you are working with, whether it's permanent or temporary lameness. And potentially sell on and use the proceeds to buy your safe cob.

Do all this on your own and your parents won't have chance to complain, so long as the woman is willing to swap back.
 
SaskiasGirl said:
Spring feather- the woman has just gone through a break up so isn't really concentrating on anything else so might not have noticed.

There is one person who might help me because she thinks that I should get the pony back but a lot of people are saying that I can't really do anything because we agreed to swap
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Ah okay, well I guess that can happen when people have other things on their plate. Things will probably go back to normal once her life has settled down again.

I think the only way you can get the pony back would be for the woman to agree to swap back. However, that is surely moot if your parents and grandfather will not allow you to have the pony back.
 
Love said:
the language for a 15 year old is all wrong. I've said before if i was in any doubt. If they really needed help they would take the advice given and not provoked emotive debates.
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What do you mean the language for a 15 year old is all wrong? u want me to type more lyk dis? omg don't be such a old hag!111! lol jk

Really, you think I'm that immature? Thanks!
 
some seem to forget what being a child is like, especially in a sport dominated by adults.... your try to respect the people who you deem to have far greater experience than you, but at the same time, sometimes you know what is best for your horse

why will your parents not listen to you? worried pony will limit what you can do? if you can sell it?
why does your grandfather think the mare is right for you? has he seen you around it?
why does he think it can go and sit back out in a field? how is this helpful to anyone?

4 weeks is nothing from being in a field to becoming a 'normal' horse...... stick it back out in the field! it will be ALOT happier, most likely easier to! take your time and dont rush..... its like taking you from being in town every day with your friends to being stuck in your bedroom revising... not fun!
the pony..... why is it lame? any other 'failures' of new owners? e.g. under feeding???
 
Well, welcome to the forum! I think you've experienced the full range of locals. I wanted to know your age as it affects how the issue can be resolved. Are you the ponies legal keeper? That is did you buy or was it explicitly given to you? Sorry if you've already explained, i got bored of the troll debate and skipped a bit. Its not a nice situation, that's why i hoped it wasn't true.
 
Love said:
This is the OPs first post... they have been employed since the age of 8 and breaking horses in from the age of 10. And there is no way out of the farm on foot....

If there was any doubt noone would have called troll.
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Its quite common for people to use children to help break in ponies that they are too big for, OP never said she was employed, to me it sounded as though she was allowed to mess about and help with the horses rather than working there. I've got my horse up for share at the moment and I can't count the number of teens have contacted me to say they work in their local riding school at a weekend and have done since they were ten. It usually just means they "help" or get in the way if you really work there!

As for the not taking advice. How is a child who has no money, and has never owned the pony (her parents did) supposed to do anything? "Swop them back" comments are rather too simple, are they not, when its not the current owner or previous owner you are talking to..

To me, this is a young kid, whose parents have done a deal with her pony. Reading between the lines, I think grandfather and instructor are probably right, there probably is nothing wrong with the horse and its just not being handled right. I had a similar situation with my first pony. I was scared, my parents said don't be so pathetic, and eventually I got there. I'm wondering if OP is also slightly taking the lameness etc out of proportion and panicing.

OP is the broodmare now kept on her own? That won't help things. Who holds the horse when you do things with her now?
 
I just wanted to say to everyone involved I have read over my posts and am quite rightly ashamed at what i have written. I have my reasons but know this is no excuse.

I stand by my opinions on the matter.. but could have put them forward in a much better way.

So yes. I am truly sorry. If anyone still wants to slate me feel free. I'm used to it.

Locating Regumate as we speak to add to my meals
 
Please asnwer Weesophs question before she bursts :D

Or PM her, im sure most on here if local would help out, i certainly would.
 
Love said:
I just wanted to say to everyone involved I have read over my posts and am quite rightly ashamed at what i have written. I have my reasons but know this is no excuse.

I stand by my opinions on the matter.. but could have put them forward in a much better way.

So yes. I am truly sorry. If anyone still wants to slate me feel free. I'm used to it.

Locating Regumate as we speak to add to my meals
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Very honourable of you to apologise. Everyone is entitled to opinions so there should be no criticism there :)
 
Love, the thing is, it really doesn't matter one jot whether the OP is a troll or not because when threads are written, there can often be other people who are in a similar situation to the OP/troll/whatever, and if the answers everyone gives is based on them believing the OP is being honest then those answers could help someone else. So you see, it doesn't matter at all.

Nice of you to apologise though.
 
tessybear said:
Please asnwer Weesophs question before she bursts :D

Or PM her, im sure most on here if local would help out, i certainly would.
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Am i invisible? If someone who is a novice, having problems and is local to me I would genuinely go and spare some time to help them. And im sure lots of others would too
 
Surely you can ask your trainer for help & guidance as you really need an adult to fight your corner? Seems like they have been supportive in the past from what you have been saying.
 
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