Love
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But in this case advice has been given and turned down. So anyone in a similar situation can see the advice
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But in this case advice has been given and turned down. So anyone in a similar situation can see the advice
Honey08
Waffled a lot!
Very honourable of you to apologise. Everyone is entitled to opinions so there should be no criticism there
Yes I agree, I admire someone who can apologise.
SaskiasGirl
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I'd really rather not say where I am because I know if certain people find out what I've said then I'm going to get a lot of trouble because people around here aren't the nicest and I don't feel like getting beaten up again.
TandD- My parents won't listen to me because I'm a child so I don't know anything. They are worried about if they can sell Poppet if we got her back. My gradad thinks that the mare is good for me because he thinks that working with a pushy horse will help to gain my confidence, and he has seen me try and work work her but that ended with me crushed against a wall by her.
The ponies new owners don't feed her any hard feed but she's in a small paddock with another horse, the paddock is dangerous as it has chicken wire and nails everywhere.
Rebels- I am not the legal keeper of the pony, my mother is the legal keeper of her. She was given to me by my mother and grandfather
TandD- My parents won't listen to me because I'm a child so I don't know anything. They are worried about if they can sell Poppet if we got her back. My gradad thinks that the mare is good for me because he thinks that working with a pushy horse will help to gain my confidence, and he has seen me try and work work her but that ended with me crushed against a wall by her.
The ponies new owners don't feed her any hard feed but she's in a small paddock with another horse, the paddock is dangerous as it has chicken wire and nails everywhere.
Rebels- I am not the legal keeper of the pony, my mother is the legal keeper of her. She was given to me by my mother and grandfather
tessybear
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Sorry for getting your user wrong combined two users then
But defo, im sure most on this thread would as many have shown compassion towards the girl. And others the pony
Spring Feather
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You can't make people take advice. Troll or no troll. And there are lots of people on this thread giving lots of different pieces of advice so which piece of advice should OP take? Yours, mine, someone else's? You don't even know what my advice would be as I haven't actually stated it yet.
hnmisty
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There was a thread in the competition section about rollkur, it was concluded by the majority to be a troll, but she was applauded for starting off a discussion about its value or lack of as a training method!
I entirely agree with honey08...it's easy to say "do this, do that" but at 15, how many people have the finances to support a pony if their parents refuse to pay? Yes, there are those few who work their socks off on paper rounds etc, but they are a rare (but very impressive!) breed.
At 15, I was entirely dependent on my parents. Hell, I was until I started my PhD at the age of 22, to be totally honest. Had my parents said "nope, no pony" there would have been nothing I could have done.
I entirely agree with honey08...it's easy to say "do this, do that" but at 15, how many people have the finances to support a pony if their parents refuse to pay? Yes, there are those few who work their socks off on paper rounds etc, but they are a rare (but very impressive!) breed.
At 15, I was entirely dependent on my parents. Hell, I was until I started my PhD at the age of 22, to be totally honest. Had my parents said "nope, no pony" there would have been nothing I could have done.
weebarney
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You dont have to give your address, if someone knew your area they could put you onto a good instructor or just give you advice
HBM1
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No..I have a mare out on loan with a friend currently. Obviously she has the passport to ensure vaccinations etc are in there, but it doesn't transfer ownership just because it is with the mare.
weebarney
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Sorry for getting your user wrong combined two users then
But defo, im sure most on this thread would as many have shown compassion towards the girl. And others the pony
Perhaps she'd break dolly in for you?
Love
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I understand that. But your comment was stating that it would put people off asking similar advice as it prevented people posting real advice. You just said yourself that there are lots of different pieces given, id like to think that the ones needing advice could process all the ideas and work something out for themselves. I'm not being deliberately argumentative, just a bit confused
Spring Feather
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Eh? I never said that it would put people off asking
I said the replies could *help* other people who may be in a similar position. Don't know how you came up with that ^^^ Lol!
Love
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Eh? I never said that it would put people off asking
Sorry yes i must have read it wrong! hence the confusion..
weebarney
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eee well thats enough for me, ive got dressage at stupid o clock in the morning
Love
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Good luck!
Queenbee
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Me too, troll or not, I happen to know of a 9 year old who backed a pony at my old riding school when I was 11, I also know of many families who's children have been guided in the backing process.
I know of such farms, without acess... Infact, I could take a picture of the entrance of one tomorrow on the way to my boy.
I find it difficult to understand that this horse has been lame, but even op said she went to ride it to 'say goodbye'
If there is an element of truth to this, some has perhaps been magnified by emotion, however, if op has had an accident, lost her confidence, had a horse who broke its leg and had to be PTS, did exchange her pony and is now watching her pony suffer and struggling with a horse who is evidently too much for her.... If there is only 1% chance of it being true.... And we are dealing with that 1% chance, then imagine how the 15yr old at the other end of the computer feels now. On the other hand, if we are dealing with the 99% chance scenario that this is a wind up and op is laughing... Really who cares, in such an instance, I'd rather give some genuine support and advice and be laughed at by a 15 yr old having a wind up session than call troll to a desperate and emotional child.
diamonddogs
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You know, I love the way people come on here and make suggestions then have a go at the poster because they "won't" take advice. And accuse someone of being a troll on the flimsiest of evidence. 
OK so this girl may or may not be a troll, but let's suppose for a second that she's genuine.
She states she's 15 - legally a child, so is obliged to do what her parents tell her to (yeah yeah - I did EXACTLY what my parents told me to do when I was 15
), yet you expect her to take the mare home and fetch the pony back on her own??? I'm the wrong side of 50 and I'd struggle to do that without support. And it would never have crossed my mind to try at 15.
In some respects she comes across as being quite mature for 15, albeit lacking in confidence, and she shows respect for her parents and other adults, which in this day and age is something to be applauded, isn't it, but here you are demanding she defies her parents!
And JFTR I was just coming up to ten years old when I backed my first youngster because of my height and build - IIRC the pony was 12.2hh and I was 100% supervised throughout the process by my instructor (except we call them coaches these days) - and we thought it was wonderful to earn rides by sweeping the yard, cleaning tack, whatever, and I would tell people I worked on the yard.
Just cut the girl some slack!
OK so this girl may or may not be a troll, but let's suppose for a second that she's genuine.
She states she's 15 - legally a child, so is obliged to do what her parents tell her to (yeah yeah - I did EXACTLY what my parents told me to do when I was 15
), yet you expect her to take the mare home and fetch the pony back on her own??? I'm the wrong side of 50 and I'd struggle to do that without support. And it would never have crossed my mind to try at 15.In some respects she comes across as being quite mature for 15, albeit lacking in confidence, and she shows respect for her parents and other adults, which in this day and age is something to be applauded, isn't it, but here you are demanding she defies her parents!
And JFTR I was just coming up to ten years old when I backed my first youngster because of my height and build - IIRC the pony was 12.2hh and I was 100% supervised throughout the process by my instructor (except we call them coaches these days) - and we thought it was wonderful to earn rides by sweeping the yard, cleaning tack, whatever, and I would tell people I worked on the yard.
Just cut the girl some slack!
Natch
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OP
It's a pretty rubbish situation you are in, if you know what is the best thing to do morally, but you're not old enough and independent enough to make it happen and the adults around you are letting you down. I'm sorry that you've ended up in such a poo situation. Yes people are getting frustrated because you aren't going to do the obvious thing that everyone on here thinks is the best thing to do, but if you can't because you're not old enough/legally the owner/ the bill payer then you're stuck. I think a lot of people on here take it for granted that they are the sole responsible person for their animal, but not everybody's situation is so clear cut.
All I can suggest is to keep mithering your family, and I hope they will see sense and get your pony back and fixed, or if not fixed then retired or PTS, rather than allowing a lame pony to be ridden. As for the ex broodmare, perhaps you'd get on better with her in time, or with lessons, but she is secondary on everyone's list of concerns to your little pony.
Good luck, I hope it works out for the little one.
It's a pretty rubbish situation you are in, if you know what is the best thing to do morally, but you're not old enough and independent enough to make it happen and the adults around you are letting you down. I'm sorry that you've ended up in such a poo situation. Yes people are getting frustrated because you aren't going to do the obvious thing that everyone on here thinks is the best thing to do, but if you can't because you're not old enough/legally the owner/ the bill payer then you're stuck. I think a lot of people on here take it for granted that they are the sole responsible person for their animal, but not everybody's situation is so clear cut.
All I can suggest is to keep mithering your family, and I hope they will see sense and get your pony back and fixed, or if not fixed then retired or PTS, rather than allowing a lame pony to be ridden. As for the ex broodmare, perhaps you'd get on better with her in time, or with lessons, but she is secondary on everyone's list of concerns to your little pony.
Good luck, I hope it works out for the little one.
Spring Feather
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I'm not sure why there are question marks about the OP backing a pony at 10 years old Do none of you youngsters do this anymore? I used to back all of my grandfathers ponies and I was only about 6 or 7 when I started. My youngest daughter has been backing ponies for people since she was around about 9 or 10 years old. I didn't think this was unusual at all; at least it certainly isn't in my social equestrian circle.
Do none of you youngsters do this anymore? I used to back all of my grandfathers ponies and I was only about 6 or 7 when I started. My youngest daughter has been backing ponies for people since she was around about 9 or 10 years old. I didn't think this was unusual at all; at least it certainly isn't in my social equestrian circle.Patterdale
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Same here SF - as a small light child I was regularly called on for backing, doing my first one aged 8 or 9. I loved it!
Doesn't mean I was 'employed.'
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought that OP was having a very hard time.
Doesn't mean I was 'employed.'
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought that OP was having a very hard time.