Whispering Willows and Alternative sanctuary

[stormox]

Could someone explain whats going on here? (See on their FB page) One sanctuary from Wales seems to be collectinf from another sanctuary in Lincs and they are chasing horses around in the pitch dark? Very odd.... I thought the RSPCA were dealing with it.

 

[meleeka]

It’s all a bit odd. The video says a horse died while being chased around.

I heard a case recently that’s miles away from Whispering Willows where they went a collected a pony. The RSPCA were already on the verge of seizing it and prosecuting the owner, so they messed that up. If they’d have checked with the local rescues they could have advised them not to take it.

 

[scats]

From what I can gather, the owner of the horses from the Lincolnshire based sanctuary signed them over to WW but they had to be moved ASAP so WW were asking for help from the public as there were 44 horses to be moved. I can’t really work out what’s going on in the latest video but it would seem a man has turned up to help and he’s chasing the horses around in the dark trying to herd them into a box or something and one dropped dead of a heart attack.

 

[Ddraig_wen]

From what I've seen of WW on facebook they seem um... interesting

 

[ester]

I had a nosey the other day and it raised a lot of red flags to me.

 

[Nasicus]

I'm not sure how to feel about them. They appear very gung-ho and seem to think that the good intent of their actions places them above the law.
I mean, if some randomer claiming to be a rescue turned up and nabbed your well looked after horses, it would be theft. Surely it's the same thing in the case of neglected horses, hence why we have to go through the proper legal channels in order to legally seize them?

I can appreciate the good intentions, nobody wants to see horses being neglected. But the laws are there for a reason.

 

[Ddraig_wen]

They took some horses from scotland and they weren't happy when the owner signed them over to the sspca so the sspca came to collect them. There's a video where she's very offended that she wasn't told there was a box waiting to collect them once the sspca had visited her

 

[stormox]

It rather makes you wonder how responsible they are when you see someone washing a horse whlst wearing flip flops...... and they dont even seem to have a charity number...

 

[Cinnamontoast]

I read on FB that the pony which collapsed in Cardiff and was removed by WW has been stolen? What is going on with that place?

 

[ester]

I expect the original owners helped themselves back to it. I didn't realise there was a 'the truth' page too! That's rarely a good sign, though it appears to be empty

 

[Kaylum]

never heard of them until a couple of weeks ago and they are a private limited company.

 

[Ddraig_wen]

They mentioned on one of their videos they weren't a charity because thy'd be too regulated

 

[stormox]

They mentioned on one of their videos they weren't a charity because thy'd be too regulated

Yet they ask for donations - that in itself seems dodgy

 

[meleeka]

I read on FB that the pony which collapsed in Cardiff and was removed by WW has been stolen? What is going on with that place?

They’ve said they believe the pony is safe so my guess is they’ve arranged for it to be “stolen” by another rescue, rather than hand it over to the RSPCA.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

They’ve said they believe the pony is safe so my guess is they’ve arranged for it to be “stolen” by another rescue, rather than hand it over to the RSPCA.

What madness is this?! I know the RSPCA has a very poor reputation for not rescuing unless the publicity opportunity is there or the animal is dying, but once they do rescue, I believe the care to be good.

 

[fabbydo]

I agree that it's a little unconventional but at least they are doing something, not just talking about it, and I think it's all done with good intentions. It's the law that is not fit for purpose and needs to change.

 

[stormox]

It seems that Whispering Willows have taken these 44 horses from the Boston sanctuary to prevent the RSPCA taking them as far as I understand it. Thats why it was all done in a hurry at night.

 

[tankgirl1]

I was in their FB group for a while when there was all that hoo ha over the traveller pony in the car park, they came across as pretty dodgy and vigilante tbh

 

[Meowy Catkin]

What madness is this?! I know the RSPCA has a very poor reputation for not rescuing unless the publicity opportunity is there or the animal is dying, but once they do rescue, I believe the care to be good.

Has the Peel case been so quickly forgotten?

WW does sound awful though.

 

[Cinnamontoast]

Has the Peel case been so quickly forgotten?

WW does sound awful though.

God, fair point!

 

[ester]

No absolutely not forgotten, and there are also certainly 'not for profits' as opposed to charities that do a good job, but nothing I have seen suggests that is the case here.

 

[WeeLassie]

I think the WW woman seems totally bonkers! Trying to load rather wild and frightened horses into the transport in the pitch black, some bloke trying to lassoo them, a horse dies (or is killed by them), and they then remove the video and dont even comment or apologise! I think that is dreadful behaviour to their followers and certainly not how a rescue should behave, there was no rush, the horses weren't in imminent danger of dying, surely every horseman knows they should be slow and steady and to keep calm with frightened horses and that they are prey animals prone to take flight when scared.

 

[meleeka]

I think the WW woman seems totally bonkers! Trying to load rather wild and frightened horses into the transport in the pitch black, some bloke trying to lassoo them, a horse dies (or is killed by them), and they then remove the video and dont even comment or apologise! I think that is dreadful behaviour to their followers and certainly not how a rescue should behave, there was no rush, the horses weren't in imminent danger of dying, surely every horseman knows they should be slow and steady and to keep calm with frightened horses and that they are prey animals prone to take flight when scared.

Another post has now been removed where there were comments. Somebody said the man was from the sanctuary in Boston.
This woman reminds me of the AHAR lady, all the ranting by video and drama, then just removing posts rather than explain herself when things don’t seem right. She may be doing wonderful things for horses, who knows?, but her lack of transparency is going to bring her a lot of negative attention.

 

[ester]

I'm trying not to be suspicious of everyone called Sandra....

 

[ester]

though I might have got my names beginning with S confused I think!

Today they appear to be breeding too.

 

[Ddraig_wen]

She reminds me of the ahar woman too. She's very vigilante, she put up a video complaining because some areas of horsewatch had said if they see WW anywhere to phone the police

 

[rascal]

though I might have got my names beginning with S confused I think!

Today they appear to be breeding too.

Think the mare was in foal when she arrived, they do seem a bit odd though

 

[ester]

Elsewhere she has been confirmed as empty/no stallion on previous property.

 

[stormox]

I think she seems just like Miss Gibbons from AHAR (that was, as it's been de-charitied). Makes herself sound like a crusading saint and loves the sound of her own voice, continually spouting claptrap.

 

[HEM]

Anyone who runs a 'horse sanctuary' with that long/clean blingy nails still in tack makes me suspicious...