Whispering Willows and Alternative sanctuary

[meleeka]

No dear just think what she's doing is a very special thing and hate bullies. So before you start slagging me for sticking up for someone take a look at the bullies who are infatuated with her

Where has anyone slagged you off?

 

[AShetlandBitMeOnce]

Oh I love it when we get huns and haters, it's all so grown up.

I live in Southampton and would break a tb. You just sound like you are in love with her, that's all. I mean who knows so much about someone that they know about what children are in their vicinity or their relationship with their neighbours? Seems very bizarre to me.

In the interest of fairness Ester, Peter7917's comment is also ridiculously childish (and believe me the word hun makes me twitch too).

I know what Marty has been up to with her weekend, and how her family are.. as she posts it on the PFK Charity Facebook page and I like to follow something I donate to, and care about - doesn't make me in love with her, just means I am interested in something. It's infuriating when those who are trying to be high and mighty, and just as childish and silly as those they are aiming their words at.

That's not a reflection of my opinion on WW, I don't have one. Just reading things like that drives me insane!

 

[cobgoblin]

Have I opened Facebook by mistake?

 

[meleeka]

In the interest of fairness Ester, Peter7917's comment is also ridiculously childish (and believe me the word hun makes me twitch too).

I know what Marty has been up to with her weekend, and how her family are.. as she posts it on the PFK Charity Facebook page and I like to follow something I donate to, and care about - doesn't make me in love with her, just means I am interested in something. It's infuriating when those who are trying to be high and mighty, and just as childish and silly as those they are aiming their words at.

That's not a reflection of my opinion on WW, I don't have one. Just reading things like that drives me insane!

Perhaps you should should have a look at WW. There is really no comparison to be made between PFK and WW. Part of the reason WW has many ‘haters’ is because of the ranty nature of her live videos I think. Why she just can’t post a paragraph or two I don’t know, but it then stirs up all the followers to get very angry on her behalf. PFK deal with criticism in a grown up way, whereas this seems to just be about mobilising a mob to shout it down.

I have no opinion either way on WW as a rescue but the PR makes it all seem a bit odd.

 

[Megan V1]

I saw a coloured pony on facebook in a stable I recognised saying that this pony had later been found dead stuck in a fence which I believe, going by the recognised stable to be at WW. I too am confused by what they are claiming to be.

 

[fabbydo]

Are you in love with her do you think?

Let's try to keep this a mature discussion rather than post comments like this.

 

[Sueq]

I live in Southampton and would break a tb. You just sound like you are in love with her, that's all. I mean who knows so much about someone that they know about what children are in their vicinity or their relationship with their neighbours? Seems very bizarre to me.

Well if you took the time out to listen to her lives on fb like many of us do you would no it was her daughter that paid for them to be done. As I said wrong sex for me dear. And as I said j will always have someone's back if I see them getting bullied to the point there telling a person to do everyone a favour and go kill herself. Ì mean what are these ppl on saying something like that to a anyone. When all shes doing is trying to help horses and ponies. So say what you want and in what context you want doesn't faze me but nothing bizarre here dear. Listen to her lives and you will see

 

[HEM]

Why's that ??? Because she's got long nails fgs. There's plenty of girls out there with horses with lovely bling nails faces full of makeup spray tans ect ect no suspicions just bloody hard work. And her daughter paid for them nails as a treat probably because she wanted to cheat her mum up because of all the hate she gets for being a tremendous person for what she's doing. Please just take 5 mins out to visit her site and see all the good work and the passion she has for these horses/ponies/dogs ect any animal that wants help will get it of sandra

Don't get me wrong I have no problem with horsey people having long blingy nails, I do! Just that I currently don't own, so don't have chores. When I was owning and on livery I couldn't even keep long nails for a week let alone owning a horse sanctuary.

Just seems a little bizarre that she begs for donations for these poor dying horses and ponies but her nails always seem to be perfect with an expensive style. Personally I'd prefer my daughter to put the money towards all the dying horses I have in my care then for me to get my nails done and inevitability ruin them within a few days.

Just my opinion

 

[ester]

What of those people who have listened to the lives, and mostly seen things that concern them? What exactly are you suggesting people will see?

 

[Peter7917]

Well if you took the time out to listen to her lives on fb like many of us do you would no it was her daughter that paid for them to be done. As I said wrong sex for me dear. And as I said j will always have someone's back if I see them getting bullied to the point there telling a person to do everyone a favour and go kill herself. Ì mean what are these ppl on saying something like that to a anyone. When all shes doing is trying to help horses and ponies. So say what you want and in what context you want doesn't faze me but nothing bizarre here dear. Listen to her lives and you will see

I have no interest in her nails or who paid for them. I didn't post that. I hate nails, witchy things.

 

[HEM]

And as I said j will always have someone's back if I see them getting bullied to the point there telling a person to do everyone a favour and go kill herself. Ì mean what are these ppl on saying something like that to a anyone. When all shes doing is trying to help horses and ponies.

I don't think anyone here would wish anyone to kill themselves and whoever has said this to Sandra is obviously not a very nice person. We are all concerned for the welfare of these ponies and horses that part we can agree on but we don't necessarily agree the way to do things.

 

[meleeka]

What of those people who have listened to the lives, and mostly seen things that concern them? What exactly are you suggesting people will see?

I’ve watched a couple of live feeds. As I said she reminds me of the ranty woman from AHAR. I can’t say I’ve listed to a whole one (they do go on a bit!) and seem to be mainly about slagging off the ‘haters’. I would have thought she’d be too busy running her rescue to spend so long preaching to her followers.

 

[ester]

Same. Hence wondering how they are supposed to be in anyway reassuring, or what the 'you will see' meant.

 

[stormox]

Well it seems like whispering willows was in league with 'Tamaras Alternative animal sanctuary' in Boston Lincs as WW took all Tamaras horses. And that now sounds to have been a horrific place. Anyone see the ch5 programme 'the woman with 106 dogs'? And since that programme was made the place was raided, several dead cats, and a half-cremated dog were found amongst other horrors.
All these people seem like hoarders, I have had personal experiences of the woman at AHAR, an absolute nutter altogether, and the WW bosses rantings are in a similar vein.

 

[Nasicus]

This lady has had so much hassle of certain ppl on a very nasty site called the truth about wws. They have told her to go kill herself they abuse her they threaten her and do you want to no why well here is 1 instance she would not give certain ppl the ex race horses to make money off them. But please message Sandra and ask her instead of listening to nasty ppl. These same ppl that yesterday in the early hours of the morning when in to Sandra sanctuary and broke the lock and chain on the gate and let all the foals out. Went onto her yard let the stallions out then let all the mares with there new born foals out ect ect. These are the same ppl that have the horrible site the truth about wws.

That's amusing, as I never see death threats on the Truth about WW page, but see plenty of people on the WW page threatening to injure/kill/maim people and their horses for daring to not sing WW's praises.
Also, did we ever get any proof about the foals/stallions being let out? For someone who loves to use any opportunity to make another facebook live video, she sure hasn't been forthcoming about sharing images/video of the carnage.
Also, if someone let the foals out at night, when noone was on site, who the heck has been doing the night time feeds for the younger foals?

 

[Sueq]

Has there been any real concern over this rescue? Have they been found guilty of anything?? I mean it is a bit harsh if they haven’t been found to have done anything?

No they have had everyone from RSPCA SSPCA trading standards all different vets and there is no concerns about anything she is doing. It's a handful of nasty arse ppl started a very nasty th page about her because of there grievances with her and then all the trolling and threats letting horses out of there fields. Ì mean one of them no what she's wearing on a day to day basis. But let me say this one of these women on the hate page has done this to another sanctuary in Wales. And one has done it to another sanctuary in Merseyside so there is a pattern forming.
All this lady does is rescues hirses and ponies but because she goes above and behind the law she's slated. We all no if your waiting for the rspca to step in you will have a long wait.
Please just go in to her page and see the good work she and the team do.
I came on here to let ppl no what there reading from the hate group is nasty and there bullies but got accused of all sorts I thought this was a adult page but by the last couple of comments I beg to differ

 

[Sueq]

Well it seems like whispering willows was in league with 'Tamaras Alternative animal sanctuary' in Boston Lincs as WW took all Tamaras horses. And that now sounds to have been a horrific place. Anyone see the ch5 programme 'the woman with 106 dogs'? And since that programme was made the place was raided, several dead cats, and a half-cremated dog were found amongst other horrors.
All these people seem like hoarders, I have had personal experiences of the woman at AHAR, an absolute nutter altogether, and the WW bosses rantings are in a similar vein.

She wasn't in league with Tamara no affiliation what so ever. She got a phone call to go and rescue 44 horses and ponies from this woman. Police and rspca vets ect were all there for that rescue.

 

[HEM]

No they have had everyone from RSPCA SSPCA trading standards all different vets and there is no concerns about anything she is doing. It's a handful of nasty arse ppl started a very nasty th page about her because of there grievances with her and then all the trolling and threats letting horses out of there fields. Ì mean one of them no what she's wearing on a day to day basis. But let me say this one of these women on the hate page has done this to another sanctuary in Wales. And one has done it to another sanctuary in Merseyside so there is a pattern forming.
All this lady does is rescues hirses and ponies but because she goes above and behind the law she's slated. We all no if your waiting for the rspca to step in you will have a long wait.
Please just go in to her page and see the good work she and the team do.
I came on here to let ppl no what there reading from the hate group is nasty and there bullies but got accused of all sorts I thought this was a adult page but by the last couple of comments I beg to differ

Haven't you just contradicted yourself a little there?

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

She wasn't in league with Tamara no affiliation what so ever. She got a phone call to go and rescue 44 horses and ponies from this woman. Police and rspca vets ect were all there for that rescue.

The RSPCA were NOT involved whatsoever in that 'rescue', please try and be more careful in your posts.
It was a hoarder who wanted to avoid the RSPCA and courts so offloaded quickly.

 

[meleeka]

She wasn't in league with Tamara no affiliation what so ever. She got a phone call to go and rescue 44 horses and ponies from this woman. Police and rspca vets ect were all there for that rescue.

So the RSPCA asked her to take them? I wonder what will happen when she’s full of all these waifs and strays from all over the country? This level of ‘rescue’ can’t be sustained for long surely?

Perhaps you can clarify what happened to the horse that was ‘stolen’ from WW a while back?

 

[ester]

I came on here to let ppl no what there reading from the hate group is nasty and there bullies but got accused of all sorts I thought this was a adult page but by the last couple of comments I beg to differ

I would be surprised if anyone on here has even been on the 'hate group' I haven't, my opinions were formed only from the very info that WW has provided on live video- in which case maybe this strategy should be looked at if it isn't a correct portrayal.

Especially as so far you haven't been great at answering any the concerns raised here either.

 

[stormox]

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She wasn't in league with Tamara no affiliation what so ever. She got a phone call to go and rescue 44 horses and ponies from this woman. Police and rspca vets ect were all there for that rescue.

It was Tamara who phoned WW to take the horses before the RSPCA got there !! She didnt want the RSPCA to see (and sieze, as some of them were in a fairly bad way with overgrown feet etc) them. If WW were honest they would have let the RSPCA at least look at the horses so Tamara could be prosecuted for neglect. As they removed the horses nothing can be done in that respect now and another case of cruelty goes unpunished.

 

[Leo Walker]

LW you claim everything is hidden but then post pictures. Can't be hidden very well then.

Yeah, thanks for pointing out you can join. I did. It was eye opening to say the least and confirmed everything that i thought and more.

 

[Leo Walker]

That's amusing, as I never see death threats on the Truth about WW page, but see plenty of people on the WW page threatening to injure/kill/maim people and their horses for daring to not sing WW's praises.
Also, did we ever get any proof about the foals/stallions being let out? For someone who loves to use any opportunity to make another facebook live video, she sure hasn't been forthcoming about sharing images/video of the carnage.
Also, if someone let the foals out at night, when noone was on site, who the heck has been doing the night time feeds for the younger foals?

There are some very nasty threats made on the WW page.

No one is doing night time feeds for the foals. The woman is bragging in one of her lives that it only takes an hour a day to look after them. They make up buckets of swill and throw it in troughs in the field, which is in fact a garden. The foals arent checked, they have no idea which ones are eating, and as I said earlier, didnt even notice one was missing until it came trotting round the corner when the food was nearly gone.

She is so like the woman from AHAR I almost thought it was her for a second.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

No they have had everyone from RSPCA SSPCA trading standards all different vets and there is no concerns about anything she is doing. It's a handful of nasty arse ppl started a very nasty th page about her because of there grievances with her and then all the trolling and threats letting horses out of there fields. Ì mean one of them no what she's wearing on a day to day basis. But let me say this one of these women on the hate page has done this to another sanctuary in Wales. And one has done it to another sanctuary in Merseyside so there is a pattern forming.
All this lady does is rescues hirses and ponies but because she goes above and behind the law she's slated. We all no if your waiting for the rspca to step in you will have a long wait.
Please just go in to her page and see the good work she and the team do.
I came on here to let ppl no what there reading from the hate group is nasty and there bullies but got accused of all sorts I thought this was a adult page but by the last couple of comments I beg to differ

I’m not actually sure why you are annoyed at my post? I’m not sure why this rescue has been brought to light as bad tbf my questions were genuine so get off your High horse as really with all the vehemence you aren’t doing yourself or the cause any favours.

Genuine people don’t need to defend themselves if they have nothing to defend against

 

[obie66]

No dear wrong sex for me. ARE you one of her haters do you Think???. Ì hate bullies and what I have seen it pure bullying from a certain group of ppl because they either couldn't get there hands on some ex race horses to make money off or there just hateful ex employees whom Sandra found them out for being what they were also some of these haters are well known for treating there horses abusivly.
As I said as Sandra she is a very open book and will tell you herself unless you are one of the haters

 

[obie66]

No wonder the horse world has such a bad name some off the comments on her are perthitic .So someone wheres flip flops washing a horse I forgot to change mine today I must be a bad horse women .Im on the ww site I cant see no wrong on there only healthy happy horses Sandra is a open book .Instead of sitting behind your keyboards book a holiday to wales go see for yourself .As for the foals being in the garden that must be at least 3acres would love a garden like that for my lot .

 

[Peter7917]

No wonder the horse world has such a bad name some off the comments on her are perthitic .So someone wheres flip flops washing a horse I forgot to change mine today I must be a bad horse women .Im on the ww site I cant see no wrong on there only healthy happy horses Sandra is a open book .Instead of sitting behind your keyboards book a holiday to wales go see for yourself .As for the foals being in the garden that must be at least 3acres would love a garden like that for my lot .

Those who are uneducated will be easily led

 

[The Fuzzy Furry]

No wonder the horse world has such a bad name some off the comments on her are perthitic .So someone wheres flip flops washing a horse I forgot to change mine today I must be a bad horse women .Im on the ww site I cant see no wrong on there only healthy happy horses Sandra is a open book .Instead of sitting behind your keyboards book a holiday to wales go see for yourself .As for the foals being in the garden that must be at least 3acres would love a garden like that for my lot .

Thank you for joining the forum to defend your friend, hopefully you have the rest of the school holidays to help out there.

That said, there is no accountability from them, no accounts, nothing to show that this place is reputable at all. I think that welfare agencies SHOULD take a further interest, so should HMRC.

 

[obie66]

Thank you for joining the forum to defend your friend, hopefully you have the rest of the school holidays to help out there.

That said, there is no accountability from them, no accounts, nothing to show that this place is reputable at all. I think that welfare agencies SHOULD take a further interest, so should HMRC.