meleeka
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I’m unfamiliar with the issues with Tamara. Who is she and what happened?
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I’m unfamiliar with the issues with Tamara. Who is she and what happened?
JanetGeorge
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The saddest part of all this is that it will deter many from making donations to the good charities, the ones who are registered charities and follow the rules. Or restrict them to only helping the big names - like RSPCA and a few others who CAN afford to take the action needed - but can be a bit too slow to get themselves in gear.
If you are looking for a small, registered and excellent horse welfare charity to support, please check out http://www.equinemarketwatch.org.uk/index.php
ester
Not slacking multitasking
I think it started off as a friendly will you take them for a bit because the RSPCA know about me/them now, and went downhill from there.
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/owner-animal-sanctuary-admits-dead-2901246
'She says she was particularly concerned about the horses, which the RSPCA said needed work doing on in the week ahead if they were to stay at the property.
"In an absolute panic I found a very kind person in Wales who has taken them to get all the work done," she said. "But it's cost an absolute fortune. It's very stressful, two horses have been lost in the process because of the stress. (those were the two that died while they were trying to load them in the dark, there was a video at one point back then)'
Zero00000
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Number of horses in WWS has to be close to 150 maybe more, if you add all the 'rescues' together, it's quite scary to think how many were hidden away from the public eye, and I think when the truth is eventually out, it will make for a distressing read.
It's hard not to see the rumours flying around, trying to stay positive that it isn't as bad as it seems, just for the sake of the poor horses that were there
It's hard not to see the rumours flying around, trying to stay positive that it isn't as bad as it seems, just for the sake of the poor horses that were there
meleeka
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Were these the ones they tried to load in the dark? I so remember that. So this Tamara took her to court to get the horses back?
ester
Not slacking multitasking
yup
and yup, I think it was over return rather than any sort of payment.
and yup, I think it was over return rather than any sort of payment.
meleeka
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Blimey!
dorsetladette
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I'd only assume the ponies weren't returned due to them being rehomed? Probably for a profit - I can't see why you wouldn't return something that is going to cost to keep when you are struggling for money.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Steady, don't go trying to include logic on illogical situations!
I think she thought the judge would order that Tamara had to pay their keep, but he didn't.
Those 19 (I do think the initial number was higher too as someone else said, those are the remainders that haven't been passed on) have definitely been cited as still being with WWS
I think she thought the judge would order that Tamara had to pay their keep, but he didn't.
Those 19 (I do think the initial number was higher too as someone else said, those are the remainders that haven't been passed on) have definitely been cited as still being with WWS
dorsetladette
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Silly me trying to understand the un-understandable!
I often thought the re-homing drives were a bit hit and miss. I suppose I just assumed as there were so many followers they had re homed a lot more than they had. So, got a few quid and moved on.
As others have said I think this is going to be horrendous when it finally all comes to light. But just can't get my head round why 1) you'd do this so publicly 2) you'd keep taking on more knowing the ones you had you couldn't afford.
ester
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see, you were doing so well then you went straight back to logic
meleeka
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My guess is that she started with good intentions but it became mire about her ego and the adoration she received.
Each new rescue generated more publicity for her which fed her huge ego. She admitted she wasn’t very experienced with horses so maybe underestimated the care they needed.
dorsetladette
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Just had a quick FB search - a poor woman dropped off a pony to WWS on 30th October. Hopefully she is one of the owners who have been contacted to collect their animals.
Meleeka - I think that is probably the kindest way of looking at it - that she underestimated the care required.
Meleeka - I think that is probably the kindest way of looking at it - that she underestimated the care required.
Velcrobum
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Interesting there has not been a peep about this in any of the localities media.
Zero00000
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If it is the owner of the black pony, she had commented that she had found where he was and that he should be home soon.
ester
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ester
Not slacking multitasking
AmyMay
Situation normal
Five big organisations assisting. Good grief.
ester
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yup, it finishes with who to contact if you own one.
Queenbee
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I did a bit of work with the mare and foal sanctuary. They are amazing, the care they give is second to none, so pleased to hear they are involved. The site they use to take their worst cases is actually the place I learnt to ride at and boarded my first pony before they acquired it. They are a truly professional outfit that I wouldn't hesitate to recommend.
ester
Not slacking multitasking
Given the number of foals that look rough enough to need some specialist help for a bit I'm very pleased to see they are involved.
Realistically I am very pleased to see that it is not just an RSPCA situation.
Realistically I am very pleased to see that it is not just an RSPCA situation.
Tiddlypom
Carries on creakily
It’s interesting that the joint agencies state that the equines will be rehomed or offered a sanctuary home in the future. No mention of PTS.
It inevitably has a big impact on the rescue centres when they take in large numbers of rescues at once. IME the centre might need to go into ‘lockdown’ ie all hands to the pumps to assist with the new intake.
It inevitably has a big impact on the rescue centres when they take in large numbers of rescues at once. IME the centre might need to go into ‘lockdown’ ie all hands to the pumps to assist with the new intake.
Peter7917
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Dobiegirl
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This is exactly the same as what AHAR accused people of, breaking in and letting the animals out, no proof just their word and their sheep believe every word. Its like taking sweets from a baby.
Leo Walker
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There was at least 150, probably closer to 200 horses so too much for any one to handle.
There have already been some PTS. Several were PTS before they left the place unfortunately. I'm not actually sure what else could have happened given the state of some of them.
I wonder who will be the next con artist to set up like this, because the one thing you can guarantee is that this isn't the last time.
dorsetladette
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I was told by a friend of a friend on FB that Sandra is having mental health problems and the only reason RSPCA are there is concerns for overcrowding. Apparently this person has been and helped at the yard and was happy with the vet visits and care given. It's scary that people are still defending the situation.
But, does that mean that Egypt is code name for something?
But, does that mean that Egypt is code name for something?
DirectorFury
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A certain very very dodgy dealer currently has a GoFundMe page up for her new 'rescue' that involves a man who spent 4 1/2 years in prison for modern slavery. There's also another new 'rescue' run by yet another pair of dodgy dealers. Info can be found on the 'Dodgy Horse Dealers & Sellers' FB page, posted yesterday at 9am.
Looks like they've cottoned on that this is a good way to make money
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meleeka
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A certain very very dodgy dealer currently has a GoFundMe page up for her new 'rescue' that involves a man who spent 4 1/2 years in prison for modern slavery. There's also another new 'rescue' run by yet another pair of dodgy dealers. Info can be found on the 'Dodgy Horse Dealers & Sellers' FB page, posted yesterday at 9am.
Looks like they've cottoned on that this is a good way to make money
And sadly there will always be people who are gullible enough to support them.
What I find very sad in all this is that so many of WWS supporters seemed to be people who had their own problems. Many posts mentioned Physical and mental disabilities and financial woes, but people felt they were part of something good and were happy to go without themselves to support her. I guess that’s how conmen work, they prey on the vulnerable 😥
AmyMay
Situation normal
Where are you getting your info from LW?
Leo Walker
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Someone who lives nearby one of the yards, who saw the horses being loaded and PTS just before it hit social media. I've got no reason to think its not true and most of what they said has now been verified one way or another.