Who says cobs cant jump!

Lolo said:
I don't think anyone's ever said that... I think they may have (accurately) said that in comparison to lighter types on the whole they don't have quite the same bounce, but not that they couldn't.
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You should lurk on youtube - people do seriously say these things - it's a cart horse, it's never going to jump, it's cruel to make it etc - it's unbelievable. But I think (from the spelling and grammatical horrors of the comments) they're written by small children who don't know one end of a horse from a jump ;)

Round here, people are more sensible - because they've all had experience of jumping cobs (and seen your pics of Al ;) ) and in fact actually have encountered a horse in real life :D

eta, since we're sharing :p

Flying hairy veteran cob

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And flying highland (not a cob, but a heavy native)

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Super looking girl OP - the extension in that trot! Loving all the other cobby jumpers too - keep 'em coming!:D
 
Izzy at first cross country schooling of the year on Easter Monday. We jump bigger usually but having an easy first time out.
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He loves jumping.
 
GeorgeyGal said:
OP I remember your other thread where you were feeling disheartened that your cob wouldn't get anywhere jumping so its good to know you are working with him, he looks very scopey in that pic!
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I KNOW! turns out i was just listening to the wrong people, confessed i was feeling bummed out to a girl at the yard and she was brilliant! said "umm think thats wrong, il show you what shell do" and look us into school and voilà!!

:D:D So very much impressed with her again and determined to give her the best life i can doing whatever we can thats fun for us both :) Shes got a temperament I've never seen in another horse and I'm sure she loves me! think thats worth more.
 
Would it surprise everyone if i said shes only 13.2!!!

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Any more pics of jumping cobs?! your all really inspiring me!! its brilliant to see them go!!


Ive been thinking about what i should do with her can anyone offer any thoughts?!
 
cobs can jump but having observed a fair few they do seem to have a particular style- a sort of get close and then pop over it while getting really quite high and round. Frank does it a little bit - as some welshies do seem to do it a fair bit too. It never looks particularly comfortable or flowing to ride.
 
I've always ridden Arabs and there seemed to be a stigma attached to Arabs and jumping also. All the Arabs I rode could jump and enjoyed it, even the purebreds could pop 1m no probs which surprised a lot of people. I've also had a thoroughbred who hated jumping so didn't push her on it as it just wasn't fun! Again it depends on the horse not the breed.
 
I will probably get shot down for this but I think all cobs have the ability to jump but maybe haven't had the correct training and/or rider needed to improve in technique or style.

If the rider of a cob actively sets out to jump and improve the horses way of going then that horse will improve and jump as well (in style but maybe not in height) as any other breed of horse. For example, if a none jumping cob was sent to someone like JFTD (sorry to use you as an example) for a few months I'm pretty sure she'd manage to get it jumping up to and possible over 3ft by the time it went home (assuming there were no medical reasons to stop it from jumping).

Likewise if the rider doesn't jump, or very rarely jumps, then they are not likely to improve hence the 'cobs can't jump' stigma.

This is the case with all breeds although I guess maybe not so extreme or as common. Without sounding like I'm stereo-typing, is that because the people more likely to not jump a huge amount are the type that want a cob to hack about on without any real ambition to improve in other areas (not that there's anything wrong with that!).

Hope that makes sense without sounding like I am belittling cobs or their riders as that wasn't my intention!
 
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3Beasties totally agree. With my loaned thoroughbred she was a flat racer and the owner told me she didn't like to jump as would throw dirty stops in which I found out which threw my confidence so would only ever do tiny jumps but if I had had lessons with her and worked on it of course she would havr improved, as a teen at the time I just didnt want to push her. All horses can physically jump its just ensuring they are properly trained and it's kept enjoyable I guess.
 
3Beasties said:
For example, if a none jumping cob was sent to someone like JFTD (sorry to use you as an example) for a few months I'm pretty sure she'd manage to get it jumping up to and possible over 3ft by the time it went home (assuming there were no medical reasons to stop it from jumping).
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Ha, you can use me as an example any time you like - I take that as a compliment (unless you mean I wouldn't accept anything other than the horse jumping decently - which would probably also be correct :cool: ) :)

Fwiw, though, I do completely agree. Training makes so much difference. My highland (and my cob, actually but he's a less clear cut example) has improved massively with training, grids, pushing him to improve his style - and pushing me to ride him properly. He could probably be much better with a more talented jockey - but most of those choose to ride "proper" competition horses to go further. The successful cob-jumpers I know are those who've put a lot of work into their horses and not accepted initial difficulties as indication that their cob "can't jump".

I also firmly believe - and I know I'm a broken record on here about this - but the trend for obese cobs and natives does nothing to help their cause in this sphere. How can you expect a horse to haul itself over fences - carrying a rider or not - if it's unfit and overweight? And of course, more cobs and natives are overweight than finer bred horses, as a general rule.
 
I actually agree completely re training being key.

I never wanted to own a hairy cob, and mine was broken to drive and not ride when I got him @ 6, but got him on loan when my 17hh + WB was injured, and when the WB was mended sold him instead (didn't want to push him and risk a reinjury or it would have been a stupidly hard choice).

I found someone who understands how to help me school the best into him for the flatwork and do a LOT of gridwork for the jumping with the eyes of a good instructor. He is more capable than I re height and width, but he does jump in a nice style, and he's far, far sharper with his feet then any of the other horses my sister and I have. If he jumps the fence he will leave it up. :)

I sometimes wonder what he'd be doing now if a far more capable rider than me had hold of him, the only XC fences I have ever jumped are on this horse for example, but then a far more capable rider than me probably wouldn't want him anyway! :D
 
JFTD said:
Ha, you can use me as an example any time you like - I take that as a compliment (unless you mean I wouldn't accept anything other than the horse jumping decently - which would probably also be correct :cool: ) :)
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It was definitely meant as a compliment :D

JFTD said:
I also firmly believe - and I know I'm a broken record on here about this - but the trend for obese cobs and natives does nothing to help their cause in this sphere. How can you expect a horse to haul itself over fences - carrying a rider or not - if it's unfit and overweight? And of course, more cobs and natives are overweight than finer bred horses, as a general rule.
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Ditto this, so many cobs are over weight and unfit so it's hardly surprising they struggle to do some activities. IMO it's like asking a 20 stone person to do gymnastics, it's unfair and realistically isn't going to happen.

Over weight cobs is a huge bug bare of mine, being a cob is no excuse for being fat (but that's a whole other thread :rolleyes: )
 
Edgedem... Meet Henry, the flying coblet :D He's 14hh, just, and super.

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He is super pingy- old boy now, late teens, but here he was 11/12 and with a 11-12yo jockey. Truly insane, utterly unbeatable, pinged 1m BS and 1.10m unaff. SJ and ODEs with ridiculous success...
 
3Beasties said:
It was definitely meant as a compliment :D



Ditto this, so many cobs are over weight and unfit so it's hardly surprising they struggle to do some activities. IMO it's like asking a 20 stone person to do gymnastics, it's unfair and realistically isn't going to happen.

Over weight cobs is a huge bug bare of mine, being a cob is no excuse for being fat (but that's a whole other thread :rolleyes: )
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You're my new best friend :D
 
ester said:
cobs can jump but having observed a fair few they do seem to have a particular style- a sort of get close and then pop over it while getting really quite high and round. Frank does it a little bit - as some welshies do seem to do it a fair bit too. It never looks particularly comfortable or flowing to ride.
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mine takes almost a stride out every time! She jumps like a big eventer not a little chunk! Biggest I've gone on her was 125 spread as the second part of a double. She popped it though, clearly loads more to give but I wimp out much over a meter these days! And xc, I just hang on and steer coz she won't take my suggestions on board beyond which fence I would like her to fly over next, the bigger the better!
 
The lovely Fiona jumping a 1m spread. Her highest is around the 1.15m mark! She loves it and makes the most amazing shape. Probably one of my favourite ponies at work.
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And the awesome Haze, him and Fiona are fighting it out to be my favourite. His highest is about 1.10 like its nothing. Both only 14.2 at a push. I'll be so sad when they go.
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I've seen people say it on facebook! Not directly "Cobs can't jump" but things like "Nice cob, shame you won't really be able to jump it..."
Though, the stupidity on facebook knows no bounds. I've also seen "TBs aren't very good at jumping" *cough* Grand National anyone?!?!

Some cracking horses on this thread :D
 
Wow these photos are all great! I was worried about how high my 15hh welshie could jump but I'm thinking I have def underestimated her now!!!!! And by the way, she loves it and pops a jump very nicely too!
 
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