Why ask for help ???????

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You can't, but faced with the mountain of photographic evidence in the case of such people as Tia, and having met her and heard some of her observations, I would trust her opinion.

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I have previously been on a forum where there was a prolific poster who actually made herself out to be much more than she really was, including a plethora of photographs. Several people actually ended up losing money because they trusted her
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i always have to have a say in situations like these and my contribution is
i have not a got a clue where this came from!
i couldn't see anything wrong with how Tia worded anything or offered advice, you can either take it or not!
whats HHO coming to (peter tuts!)
 
That is actually a good point. There have been people on here who have portrayed themselves as something totally different from how they actually are. They do say never believe anyone on a forum! Mind you, if someone offers you advice it is sometimes wise to ask for a second opinion from someone you trust, rather than just saying 'you don't know my horse so you can't comment'. Better to thank for the advice and then see if it is good rather than condemning it out of hand...
 
I never usually post in these type of posts - but I just wanted to say this:

I like to ask for advice on HHO - this is because you get lots of information from lots of different people - you can then look at all of the information and decide whether you want to use any of the information. If someone recommends something, I might check it out using google or one of the people in RL that I trust.

As in RL - you ask for advice, you get advice - you make your own judgment on whether or not it is useful.

Lots of people on here do have very good advice. It is one of the resources I use when i would like more information, but not my only source. I trust my YO completely as she is so experienced and know me and my horses so well (20 years of having my horses with her) and she is the person i mainly use as a sounding board.

right - that's it - just wanted to say.
 
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Mind you, if someone offers you advice it is sometimes wise to ask for a second opinion from someone you trust, rather than just saying 'you don't know my horse so you can't comment'. Better to thank for the advice and then see if it is good rather than condemning it out of hand...

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A dog with a bone yes, but not a bully. (sorry FF haa haa) x

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Ahhh, thanks for confirming that FF does indeed have issues with FMN that she won't let go of.
Shame she can't keep it off the forum...

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Errr I didn't say that - she believes in her views and sticks by them what the hell is wrong with that?

Very strange
 
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This post was only meant as a general observation. Not to be aimed at anyone

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Ohhh Charley and I quote from page 1
'Glad you seem to agree. Been reading certain posts that make me wonder why the hell did that person ask for opinions,help or advise because when its given they turn bl..dy rude when they don't agree '

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Not aimed at anyone my a***
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Caz Davies: Do you ever have anything constructive to say in any equine posts? Anything at all?

Are you a social worker by any chance?
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Trust you Tia
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By the way I am an ex Veterinary Nurse , taking a year out to concentrate on my Jazz ..OK?
 
But everyone jumped to the conclusion that charley meant FMN. Maybe she meant a number of different posts.
 
I have been doing my best to stay out of this thread but I lack self discipline… my understanding of the whole sorry thing is as follows:

As DieselDog quite rightly points out this whole thing started with a ‘how much’ post in which FMN got upset because forum members did not value her horse as highly as she did; everyone seemed to agree he was absolutely lovely, but said the fact that he was 6 and hadn’t been backed, ridden etc would seriously affect his price. FMN followed this up with another thread entitled ‘Producing too slowly?’ in which naturally the discussion re did people think she was producing her 6yo too slowly continued. People raised more of the same concerns about the horse potentially becoming more difficult to back and produce the older he got etc etc. Throughout posts there was general confusion over whether the horse had been backed and ridden away or not blah blah blah. SO, by the time FMN posted in the gallery there had already been a fair amount of debate and several people interested in her progress.

I did not see any bullying? I posted on the gallery threads and I would hate to think that at any point I made FMN feel ‘bullied’ however, given that FMN had expressed upset at (constructive) replies in the NL in both her threads on the subject I’m a little confused as to why she would post if not to give people a progress update, which is what I assume most people assumed it was and replied accordingly with interest and advice?
 
LZT I agree - I've had some tough love on this forum in the past. Yes it hurts but you have to see that most people want what's best for you and your horse.

If you ask for advice then you ask for constructive criticism.
 
As are you.

You know for a little while I, and some others, thought you might be cyber-stalking me....but I am pleased to see that you do not purely reserve your sweet comments just for me.
 
now im a little older and wiser i value everyones opinion on here. i might not always agree with it, there was some not so nice things said about me and my horse when i first started and jumped on the fight back band wagon, but i now do value it. i take bits from one person and another and the bits i dont like or dot agree with i dont try. its all trial and error, but to be so biiter about a situation, maybe a PM would of been better than airing a grievence on the forum.
(im my head that sounded quitegrown up!)
 
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I do not think anyone was being nasty or spiteful - as far as I'm concerned, the people replying, were posting out of a mixture of concern for FMN who seems rather out of her depth with her horse - and curiosity - wanting to get the story actually straight.


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I read it, as it was occuring. I was very confused, thought maybe there had been some unpleasant posts I missed.

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I'm even more confused! having been and read previous posts about the horse.. You are right about getting the story straight! Not becasue it is essential, but it isn't consistent and therefore I can see why some comments were made.. I must learn to keep up!

I still have no idea where this thread is going though, it's beginning to sound antagonistic in places!
 
Well I felt FF's first reply to FMN was purposly patronising. I think, unfortunately, that FMN gave FF exactly the response she expected to get.
 
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Well I felt FF's first reply to FMN was purposly patronising. I think, unfortunately, that FMN gave FF exactly the response she expected to get.

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Tone on these forums is notoriously difficult to decipher. I'm not sure which post you are referring to but it does sound as though you have made a few large and perhaps unfair assumptions there.
 
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Not aimed at Flitus, I repeat QR!!

I am absolutely astounded at the amount of s*** I have just read on this thread since I left it at lunchtime.

"no bullying" "asked for criticism".

What planet are you all on? I am sorry, but this whole thing reeks if petty personal disagreements, and then the guilty sticking together and covering each others a****.
As I said originally, members who feel the need to play sheep and agree with what another member has just said really is infuriating. It's like 'ganging up' on people, and puts newbies off.
If someone posts and asks for you opinion, giver YOUR opinion, not what someone else has said. It isnt big, it isnt clever and people can see through it. Best thing to do is read the question and not read ANY replies if you intend on giving your own, experienced, opinion.
Likewise, if someone just posts nice piccies to show you, it isnt an invite for a bunch of hyenas to jump on and have a go.

HHO is going downhill rapidly. I come on alot less these days as it's just not fun anymore. It isnt just newbies who are the main bi***** it's some of the older long term members who think they have a right to Lord it over others.

My advice to them (and they know who they are)....GET A LIFE.
 
Katy i have to say i agree with you entirely! It is something i have noticed for a long time now

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HHO is going downhill rapidly. I come on alot less these days as it's just not fun anymore. It isnt just newbies who are the main bi***** it's some of the older long term members who think they have a right to Lord it over others.

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Ditto! Completely agree and tbh thank god someone had the guts to say it
 
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So when did lots of people having the same opinion become bullying?! I certainly didn't see anything on those threads which constituted bullying; people were giving their own opinions and honest advice, what's wrong with that?
 
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Katy i have to say i agree with you entirely! It is something i have noticed for a long time now

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It isnt just newbies who are the main bi***** it's some of the older long term members who think they have a right to Lord it over others.

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Ditto! Completely agree and tbh thank god someone had the guts to say it

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Right, well seeing as I am one of the older members that was involved in that thread I presume you are referring to me. If you and katy REALLY believe that us long term members *LORD* it over others then I really actually feel very, very sorry for you. And if you don't like HHO, then I suggest you choose to take your browsing time elsewhere, then you will have nothing to bitch about
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Woah woah woah hang on there lou! You are FAR from the person i was thinking of! You're one of the longer standing members that i respect the most, why would you think it was you? I've never seen you say anything unfair!! Honestly lou you DO have an overactive imagination sometimes
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