Why do even experienced people confuse Welsh Cobs with normal Cobs ??

I have now read the word 'cob' so many times it has lost all meanings whatsoever! For that reason my supposed Traditional Cob will now be referred to as 'oss!! :D
 
sounds to me like some welsh owners think that owning a 'cob' of any description is common. I know someone that had a welsh D and announced very loudly on the yard 'its not a cob its a welsh D'

I nearly fell over laughing, my resonse was 'its a welsh COB'

a cob to me is anything with a bit of feather/bone, i tend to refere to traditional types as gypsy vanners/cobs and anything else a a cobby thing.lol Does it really matter? If you dont want a cob or think its too common, then dont buy one. Simple.
 
I thought the term 'cob' was just used to describe a fat horse? If your tb gets fat then doesnt he eventually turn into a cob? ;-)
 
Kat said:
Perhaps it would be easier if we forgot about cobs and talked about other TYPES. Cobs are afterall a type of horse, rather than a breed. A hack or a hunter is another TYPE of horse.

Many hacks are TB, TBx or PBA, this doesn't mean that hacks have to have any specific breeding, neither does it mean that another breed can't be a hack. Further it doesn't mean that all TBs are hacks.....

Same with Hunters, many hunter types (as opposed to horses that actually hunt) are ID or IDx or CB but that isn't essential and other breeds or horses of unknown breeding can also be hunter types i.e. a large solid workmanlike horse capable of carrying someone for a days hunting etc.

To further complicate matters some breeds have enough variety to fall into different types! Many top show hunters are ID but some pure IDs show as cobs.

Welsh cobs are the section of the welsh pony breed that also happens to be a cob type. Just like the section B also happens to be a show pony type. So welsh cobs are cobs, they may be LW cobs but they are cobs, that is what they were developed to be, a multi-purpose animal that can be used for light agricultural work, pack work, hunting, transport and pleasure riding or driving. They still fullfil that criteria, albeit they look a bit different to the ideal for a "show cob" or for a "traditional cob" in the show ring.

So much of this angst would be saved if people avoided using the words "fat" or "ploddy" in respect of cobs and accepted that it is an unfair and sweeping generalisation. There is no reason why owners of welsh Ds should be worried or offended by being classified as cobs.
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Just what I wanted to say! I really don't know why people get so snobby about welsh cobs.
 
Kallibear said:
Really? I don't know anyone experienced who confuses the traditional 'gypsy cob' with the welsh D's (incidently many people class the old fashioned solid welsh C's a 'welsh cobs' too).

Everyone seems to knows they're silly, overly dramatic nutcases unlike the nice placid sensible 'cob' ;)

But there are different lines of 'welsh cob' There's the athletic but stupid preformance lines and them there's the sensible quiet but 'cobby' 'cob line'
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In your second paragraph you have pretty much described the Welsh D i have on full loan! Especially the over dramatic bit!!
 
Sorry, cannot turn this great opportunity down to post a picture of my ploddy show cob. ;-)

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There are fat cobs slim cobs ( usually a hard working owner in the background there) hot cobs ,ploddy cobs , athletic cobs, stuffy cobs, good moving cobs bad moving cobs, ugly cobs , beauiful cobs , some have papers that say they are welsh but they are cobs .
I am never sure what defines a cob but for me short legs seems to key.
 
My section D is a very good looking leggy one standing at 14.3 with a huge, bushy mane and tail. He is so lush that when I'm out riding, people regularly stop their cars, wind the window down and say "what a beautiful horse". "I know" I reply "and he's all mine". :D
 
soulfull said:
Welsh Cobs are often highly bred, highly strung and VERY agile not ploddy
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Yup totally agree! I've had a Welsh D in the past, and have got a mare on loan ATM; and no way would you describe the "proper" Welsh D/cob as a plod. No way!

I've also got a gypsy/traddie cob: and you couldn't ever describe him as a "plod" either!! Coz he certainly isn't.

So guess it goes both ways.

But think that people, particularly novices, assume that any cob, "Welsh" or otherwise, is a nice easy ride. IME no they are not!! The problem with a "cob" is precisely this, that people think they're a novice ride, and then novices buy them/ride them, and pretty predictably find they can't manage them.
 
Most of the Welsh Ds I've known have been quite spooky and strong - but of course, like people, they vary tremendously. The one I have at the moment doesn't seem spooky at all, but that may be compared to my last one who constantly had eyes on stalks looking for falling leaves which might attack him!
 
I have a 15.1hh WELSH SECT D COB, I call him a cob all the time. He is quite a well built boy but must confess is a little fat at the moment. He is quirky and as I have said before did try selling him last year but decided to keep him due to his 'issues' did not want him passed from home to home due to his quirkes. He is lovely to handle and to ride 99.9% of the time but there is always that little bit of him that takes you by surprise but just learned to deal with it. Not sure I would have another Welshie though. ;)
 
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