Why is Thunderbrook still in business???

[IveRunOutOfNamesToThinkOf]

https://forums.horseandhound.co.uk/...eeds-your-thoughts-experiences-please.737642/

it has already been acknowledged the bosses owner’s boyfriend who runs the business has morals which are lacking to say the best! If you haven’t already read you’re in for a shock! Yet a year on and nothing has been done, the business is congratulating itself on new premises

 

[AmyMay]

Does it need a new thread?

 

[poiuytrewq]

Do you need morals to run a business? Sadly not, you need customers of which they have many.

 

[black and brown]

Probably because most owners are unaware of issues and their horses are happy eating Thunderbrooks feeds

 

[catembi]

I switched my four to Agrobs a while back when the inappropriate social media thing happened. Not that it makes any difference, except to make my conscience feel comfortable.

 

[CMcC]

I switched my four to Agrobs a while back when the inappropriate social media thing happened. Not that it makes any difference, except to make my conscience feel comfortable.

I would do the same if I could find a reliable supplier of Agrobs. Unfortunately after several very frustrating attempts I am still feeding Thunderbrook muesli because I can actually get hold of it.

 

[criso]

It's no longer the same distributor for agrobs for the uk, so may be worth looking again https://www.agrobs.de/en/service-distributor/agrobs-stockists/

The thing is only a small amount of people read hho and the biggest uk barefoot group have always been a bit of a tb fan page. Eddie's no longer directly active in the group but any criticism of tb however mild gets shut down and people banned.

 

[Follysmum]

I refuse to buy his feed as many of my friends. We nice use honey chop healthy lite which is just as good imo.

 

[dixie]

I doubt that high % of their customers know about their reputation though.

 

[Squeak]

Apologies if I’ve missed it in a previous post of yours but it looks like a lost of your posts and threads are about Thunderbrooks. Why do you keep bringing it up?

It just seems a bit odd to join a forum predominantly to bash/ shame one company. I’m not saying that the company hasn’t done anything wrong, I admit I don’t know much about it and what is or isn’t true with it all.

 

[Sossigpoker]

I have friends who feed it despite knowing about the sex pest. And some of them have daughters who are young adults.
As long as it doesn't happen to their daughter, it's fine apparently!

 

[Sossigpoker]

Apologies if I’ve missed it in a previous post of yours but it looks like a lost of your posts and threads are about Thunderbrooks. Why do you keep bringing it up?

It just seems a bit odd to join a forum predominantly to bash/ shame one company. I’m not saying that the company hasn’t done anything wrong, I admit I don’t know much about it and what is or isn’t true with it all.

OP might have experienced the harassment first hand or know someone who has ?

 

[FieldOrnaments]

Well I suppose they are not exactly printing their owner/managers misbehaviours on the side of their feed bags so many people probably aren't aware, including undoubtedly feed store owners/vets/trimmers/independent nutritionists, who might still be recommending their feeds, and it's not the fault of these individuals who probably do it in good faith, nor the owners who believe they are doing what is best for their horse(s).

 

[poiuytrewq]

This has made me think, as some may know my horse is currently turned away with a friend. She asked if she could swap his feed to the same as she feeds hers so if they swap buckets or whatever it didn’t matter.
I don’t think they do now they have sorted out that mine is boss and no one touches him when eating!
I pay her for his feed and she’s buying Thunderbrooks thinking it’s far better than the crap I feed!
I feel like I should say no and that he’s to go back into my feed. I’d totally forgotten all this

 

[IveRunOutOfNamesToThinkOf]

Apologies if I’ve missed it in a previous post of yours but it looks like a lost of your posts and threads are about Thunderbrooks. Why do you keep bringing it up?

It just seems a bit odd to join a forum predominantly to bash/ shame one company. I’m not saying that the company hasn’t done anything wrong, I admit I don’t know much about it and what is or isn’t true with it all.

The info is in the previous thread, I did join this forum after receiving some terrible customer service and posted it on the thread I found. Some time later whilst looking to see if others had issues I found the Facebook posts about the inappropriate sexual behaviour

I have commented and read many other posts, I will admit after my dealings with this company though, and after seeing the relevant posts this does bother me a lot. I’m hardly posting everyday though, I do have a life! In fact before yesterday it’s been a while since I posted at all. If I’m out to bash/shame one company I’m doing a pretty poor job, they do a much better job of that themselves

 

[IveRunOutOfNamesToThinkOf]

Actually @Squeak i’m going to take back my explanation. I’m actually annoyed at myself for my own response

You are asking me why I keep bringing up a situation where women were exploited sexually when looking for work and the man got away with it. Why tf wouldn’t I? Why wouldn’t I want to shout it from the rooftops for everyone to see and to stop this bloke benefiting. Should I be ashamed for mentioning it and starting a new thread because it’s been a year and he’s still in business and profiting? Should I somehow have to be gaining personally from this?

If this is what the majority of posters think then I’ll happily leave

 

[Lois Lame]

It just seems a bit odd to join a forum predominantly to bash/ shame one company. I’m not saying that the company hasn’t done anything wrong, I admit I don’t know much about it and what is or isn’t true with it all.

I suspect IveRunOutOfNamesToThinkOf isn't a new poster, but one of us. (Not me.)

I've read the threads on Thunderbrooks and been quite interested in it, and wouldn't buy their stuff because of it. (We don't have it here, of course.)

Their names are fabulous: Honeychop... gorgeous name. I think the names have a lot to do with their popularity.

ETA: It's possible I've got this all wrong. Honeychop doesn't seem to be Thunderbrooks...

 

[ponynutz]

Do you need morals to run a business? Sadly not, you need customers of which they have many.

Probably for a business a necessity is having a lack of morals.
(sorry to any small business owners - you guys are a different kettle of fish to the bigger business owners, much nicer)

 

[Tiddlypom]

ETA: It's possible I've got this all wrong. Honeychop doesn't seem to be Thunderbrooks...

Phew, you had me worried there for a bit! Honeychop is indeed nothing to do with Thunderbrooks.

I think that it's a good thing that publicity about the Thunderbrooks issue is revived at intervals. It's certainly stopped me buying any of their products.

 

[Squeak]

Actually @Squeak i’m going to take back my explanation. I’m actually annoyed at myself for my own response

You are asking me why I keep bringing up a situation where women were exploited sexually when looking for work and the man got away with it. Why tf wouldn’t I? Why wouldn’t I want to shout it from the rooftops for everyone to see and to stop this bloke benefiting. Should I be ashamed for mentioning it and starting a new thread because it’s been a year and he’s still in business and profiting? Should I somehow have to be gaining personally from this?

If this is what the majority of posters think then I’ll happily leave

I think I do owe you an apology as having spent more time reading older threads on the forum the bad behaviour of the company seems pretty substantiated and evidenced.

A local tack shop owner had said to me when trying to convince me to buy a bag of TB, as they didn't have the brand I usually have, that the female owner was a really lovely, knowledgeable woman who she'd met and spoken to since numerous times and was just being victimised on SM (by apparently one or two people in particular) and what was being said wasn't true. Hence it did seem a bit odd to have a poster that mostly posted about how bad the company was and kept bringing it up years apart.

I was manic yesterday and so didn't have time to read the old threads fully before posting, which was a mistake and I should have.

 

[Sossigpoker]

Actually @Squeak i’m going to take back my explanation. I’m actually annoyed at myself for my own response

You are asking me why I keep bringing up a situation where women were exploited sexually when looking for work and the man got away with it. Why tf wouldn’t I? Why wouldn’t I want to shout it from the rooftops for everyone to see and to stop this bloke benefiting. Should I be ashamed for mentioning it and starting a new thread because it’s been a year and he’s still in business and profiting? Should I somehow have to be gaining personally from this?

If this is what the majority of posters think then I’ll happily leave

Spot on.
Sadly an awful lot of women and mothers still keep buying products from that disgusting company. I wonder what it would take for them to take their business elsewhere? An actual physical assault? Or I guess like many women I know , if it doesn't happen to them or their daughters , it doesn't concern them.

Meanwhile, raising awareness is the right thing to do.

 

[Odyssey]

Spot on.
Sadly an awful lot of women and mothers still keep buying products from that disgusting company. I wonder what it would take for them to take their business elsewhere? An actual physical assault? Or I guess like many women I know , if it doesn't happen to them or their daughters , it doesn't concern them.

Meanwhile, raising awareness is the right thing to do.

I find it quite disturbing that many women continue to buy products from this awful company. I'd have hoped that most women who know what that horrible man has done would boycott Thunderbrooks.

Hitting immoral companies in the pocket is important, imo. I don't shop on Amazon since learning about how badly they treat their delivery drivers, expecting them to deliver 300!! ? parcels a day, they don't even have time to eat or stop at loos. They have to drive recklessly to hit their targets, thus endangering other road users, and themselves. That's on top of their other disgusting practices, with similar inhumane targets for their warehouse staff, and dumping vast amounts of brand new, perfect, unsold items in landfill, amongst many other things, like paying very little tax. Sorry for digressing, but this is something I feel very strongly about. I try to support small/British businesses wherever possible (as long as I haven't heard bad things about them, obviously!)

 

[SEL]

The CPL Facebook group adore the comoany

 

[Cortez]

I fail to see how the awful behavior (alleged) of a business owner affects the quality of the products they sell? Sure, stop buying stuff from people you believe to be bad but if you start that sort of stuff there will be precious little available to you, which is perfectly fine of course if that floats your boat. So, what: never watch a movie if it's got less than perfect people in it/associated with it? Stop reading books by people who've been "cancelled" (ref. JK Rowling)? Don't buy stuff from Tesco because they're mean to farmers (that's a more legit one)?

Social media is a potent force, but using it to push an agenda is....I dunno, juvenile, at best?

 

[onemoretime]

Phew, you had me worried there for a bit! Honeychop is indeed nothing to do with Thunderbrooks.

I think that it's a good thing that publicity about the Thunderbrooks issue is revived at intervals. It's certainly stopped me buying any of their products.

Ive also stopped buying their products because of this man's behaviour towards women. Incidentally, did anyone actually take up the post he was advertising?

 

[Tiddlypom]

With behaviour this sh1t from this company I wouldn't be confident about the quality of the products sold, or any of the fancy claims made about them.

 

[Sossigpoker]

The CPL Facebook group adore the comoany

The person running that group is rather up herself too, almost goes around like some medical expert. She offered to come and diagnose my horse when I wasn't sure if I was dealing with mallanders, mites or what, as vets apparently aren't well informed on this.
Does my head in!

 

[Sossigpoker]

I fail to see how the awful behavior (alleged) of a business owner affects the quality of the products they sell? Sure, stop buying stuff from people you believe to be bad but if you start that sort of stuff there will be precious little available to you, which is perfectly fine of course if that floats your boat. So, what: never watch a movie if it's got less than perfect people in it/associated with it? Stop reading books by people who've been "cancelled" (ref. JK Rowling)? Don't buy stuff from Tesco because they're mean to farmers (that's a more legit one)?

Social media is a potent force, but using it to push an agenda is....I dunno, juvenile, at best?

So at what point would you boycott a company? When the known creepy guy assaults someone? When someone is killed ?
If people haven't woken up even after Sarah Everard , I really do despair.

 

[criso]

The thing is even before this sexual harassment, there was a lot of bad behaviour from him. He was rude and abusive in emails and on social media to so many people including myself. He harassed the admins of another barefoot group on Facebook so badly that they asked that the name was never mentioned, good or bad.

That's not normal behaviour. I've not heard of similar from any other feed company. You don't find the CEO of Dengie or D and H publicly abusing someone on Facebook because their horse didn't like their chaff.

 

[Cortez]

So at what point would you boycott a company? When the known creepy guy assaults someone? When someone is killed ?
If people haven't woken up even after Sarah Everard , I really do despair.

Presumably someone committing an actual crime would be arrested, I don't see the need to get involved in any subsequent consequences. Did people boycott the police because a rogue member of the force committed a crime? If they did, what was the point? What do you think will happen if a few people don't buy some feed because they have heard some allegations on social media? If the allegations are true, do you not think a prosecution will follow?