why so cheap!!!!

Not sure but a reason might be that if you keep them for a really short time as they sell for cheap then you'll make more money then keeping them for ages by asking a high price.....he will have to feed, shoe them etc.....

They come with a three month warrenty (don't like that word with animals) so that is a good amount of time to see if the horse is a nut.
 
Don't know the dealer but it could be a simple case of overstockin ga lot of people are trying to sell at the moment as they have to tighten there belts, this dealer may just be trying to free up some space or reduce his own costs!! Propably looking through rose tinted specs at the best possible answer there but hey ho, it could be an honest dealer.
 
I'm toying with exactly the same question. On my 'would you buy a nappy pony' thread I've added the advert to the said pony. I'm seriously considering him.

The dealer swears she would rather make money through quick turnover and I do think I could miss a bargain.

After all, what does spending 3k on a horse guarantee?

It goes against natural instinct but then there is less to lose.
 
Sammii819 said:
They come with a three month warrenty (don't like that word with animals) so that is a good amount of time to see if the horse is a nut.
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Providing they actually honour the warranty and let you return/exchange the animal of course ;)

Without saying too much, I'd be very wary of offers like this :)
 
I think someone else posted about the grey mare he has for sale at £495 (who looks quite sweet to me) a few weeks ago and there were a few responses saying the dealer had been prosecuted by trading standards a few years ago, if you google the dealers name lots of reports come up on him including from watchdog etc! Buyer beware I think, some of his may be OK looks like he has brought a load over from Ireland but not sure I would want to take the chance!
 
There was a thread on this dealer recently - some people having bought a horse from him and others aware of the trading standards investigation and prosecution. General info was not to touch with a barge pole!
Unfortunalty I can't find the thread, but that is the gist of it!
 
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Hmmm....I don't know anything about this dealer but it seems quite low if the horse has no issues and competition results.

BUt on the other hand, as a general comment, it is strange that there are not more "nondescript" horses advertised for very little at the moment, given the recession and harsh winter? There are thousands of horses for sale at the moment without a track record or quality proven breeding from a recognised studbook, or competition results to their name. So many indiscriminately bred horses are still advertised for several thousand pounds, when it only takes a little more to buy a "quality" horse from a serious breeder with proven, tested parentage, potentially more talent, and which is less likely to break down.


In a way I think the lower end of the market has been quite overpriced for a while. So perhaps we will see more horses in this price range over the next few months?
 
I think the bulk of these horses are picked up in Ireland, and they are cheap (racehorses are buy one get one free).

For £495 I don't think there is much to lose, as you can always send off to potters if its unsafe / very unsound after 3 months so max loss is £250 ish
 
Buy cheap, buy twice! (my stingy ex boyfriend used to say this, but actually he has a point....)

and the problem with a cheap horse is that you will no doubt fall in love with it and then not want to send it to potters/heaven/to be resold and will pay a stupid amount of money to keep a horse you can't ride for the rest of its life.... (or is that just me!!)

I honestly believe you get what you pay for in most cases with horses, and definitly from dealers.
 
Jen_Cots said:
I think the bulk of these horses are picked up in Ireland, and they are cheap (racehorses are buy one get one free).

For £495 I don't think there is much to lose, as you can always send off to potters if its unsafe / very unsound after 3 months so max loss is £250 ish
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agreed there..
 
Maybe there is not much to lose money wise as Jen_Cots says, but... I would find it hard to stay business like and emotionally detached enough to actually send it to potters after 3 months, if it turns out to be lovable but unsound :-(
 
_CJ_ said:
Maybe there is not much to lose money wise as Jen_Cots says, but... I would find it hard to stay business like and emotionally detached enough to actually send it to potters after 3 months, if it turns out to be lovable but unsound :-(
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I'd send to potters if it wasn't suitable...dont see the point in keeping 'useless' horses....x
 
Read about him before, barge and pole were previous comments on here. Dont touch being the main point. Poor horses is all I can say. Always got lots on there for sale.
 
Ted's mum said:
I'd send to potters if it wasn't suitable...dont see the point in keeping 'useless' horses....x
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I don't have a problem with that, but I think many people find it harder in practice than in theory :-) Even though I think it is a completely acceptable and rational thing to do, I'd find it sad.

But, on a positive note, it is a way of giving a horse a chance, which is a nice thing. 3 months of a good life and a chance at a ridden career is not necessarily a bad thing to donate some time and money to.
 
Going against the general trend with this dealer, one of my colleagues bought a horse from him for her teenage son and apart from a rather odd issue with not wanting to come out of his stable when they first got him, she has been very pleased with him. In fact, he is rather quieter than they had hoped and not really competitive enough for the son. The horse does a bit of everything, hunts, Pony Club, hacks out, good in stable, traffic etc. She did not know of this dealer beforehand, just thought he had some types of the sort she was looking for and only got to know of his past later. The horse was not from the £500 quid end of the market, but neither was he £4-5000.00 either. I don't know the chap at all, so my post is not in support of him as such, just that I do genuinely know of someone who has bought successfully from him. She is not a novice buyer, however and has about 10 other horses and ponies (and 3 children, I hasten to add) and would come across to a seller as very straightforward, shall we say, rather than say, a dewy eyed first time buyer falling in love with a horse's colour, which some may take advantage of. Perhaps if you know what you're about and understand and accept that with a £500 quid horse, you're getting a £500 quid horse and no more than that and you can risk that money, then you may end up with a bargain. But I think you must be prepared to cut your losses if not, even if that means PTS and as others have said, some would find that hard if not impossible.
 
he goes to york horse sales and buys there, he stops bidding at £200 to make quick buck.he has been prosecuted by trading standards. also saying horses are irish is a good way for some unscrupulous dealers to cover up lack of history on them.doubt these horses have ever been near ireland.

also anyone notice the significance of been sold for £495, it is fiver less than five hundred and to qualify for warranty the purchase price has to excced 500 unless specified in legal contract. so would be v. difficult to force him to honour warranty (we found this out from our solicitor when we were in similar situation).
 
I have to say I doubt the Irish connection myself, as so many seem to come from there, not just with this chap, Ireland should be empty of horses by now! I have also noticed that anything that's dapple grey and around 14.2 is now a Connemara as they are getting so popular! Was the same with ID/TB crosses a few years ago when they were the thing - everything seemed to be an ID/TB cross, or "believed to be". Not that I'm cynical or anything, you understand.

Warranties are only as good as their enforceability, as you say. They do give you a document that you can use as valid evidence should you go that far, but basically the people who will honour warranties don't need to give them, if you see what I mean and those who aren't going to anyway might as well scatter them like confetti.
 
Ireland should be empty of horses by now

! I have also noticed that anything that's dapple grey and around 14.2 is now a Connemara as they are getting so popular!

lol this is true!!!!!!!!!!!!


Was the same with ID/TB crosses a few years ago when they were the thing - everything seemed to be an ID/TB cross, or "believed to be". Not that I'm cynical or anything, you understand.
 
cumbriamax said:
he goes to york horse sales and buys there, he stops bidding at £200 to make quick buck.he has been prosecuted by trading standards. also saying horses are irish is a good way for some unscrupulous dealers to cover up lack of history on them.doubt these horses have ever been near ireland.
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Almost word for word what I put on the last post. I have first hand experience of him, having worked for him briefly
 
He is very well known to trading standards, i would say if you want to take a chance on a cheap end horse you may as well go to an auction as they will have come from there anyway rather than keep people like this in buisiness.

At least then you may get a chance to talk to whoever is selling and if you are going to buy a tb you may as well go straight to a racing yard direct you will get more of the truth

If you buy from him you will not find out anthing about the horse and it will not have gained schooling or anything good by being there so you may as well buy direct at a sale pay half the price hes asking and you havent taken any more of a risk or even better still pay what hes asking at a sale and get something a little better i mean lets face it if hes travelled the horse bought and turned a profit imagine how much he paid for the horse and when they are that cheap it is usually for a reason.
 
Stay well clear!!!

I bought from this dealer and had many many problems as did many other people

took him to court and if u google his name u will see how many people have had issues with him

he picks half his horses up from the meat man on their way to slaughter and he sold one that was deemed on its passport 'for meat only' as it was dangerous to humans!
 
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