Will my filly turn grey?

Oooo err, and the plot thickens... To answer your question Kallibear it appears mum HAS had a non grey foal in the past many moons ago.
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Alchemy said:
Will stay bay , if she was going to be grey she would have been black at birth.
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No she won't. She'd only have been black if her base colour is black. She could be chestnut and go grey or bay and go grey. Our ID, who's now almost white, was a ginger baby.

For what it's worth, I rhink she'll stay bay. She's no obvious grey markers and grey is rare in traditional cobs. Her mum would need two grey parents to be homozygous for grey (and grey tradition cob stallions are not common) which means mum is prob only single grey and baby ttherefore only has 50% chance of being grey.
 
Is the mare really "dapple grey", her markings are sort of star shaped, can't remember the correct term. I too think from what I've read posted by knowledgeable folk here your foal won't grey out. Another query, I rather thought Faracat was a "he" but apologies F if I'm wrong.
 
I think mum is beautiful! Absolutely beautiful....so whatever colour baby ends up, she'll be a corker!!

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millikins said:
Is the mare really "dapple grey", her markings are sort of star shaped, can't remember the correct term. I too think from what I've read posted by knowledgeable folk here your foal won't grey out. Another query, I rather thought Faracat was a "he" but apologies F if I'm wrong.
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Is she? He?! I assumed she was a she, but could be a he!

Dapple is a separate marking and goes over a colour. They can be bay black or even chestnut dapple but it only shows properly on a grey. I've no idea on it's dominance and interaction with other genes though!
 
I was told that my youngster would grey out as his mum is dapple grey. He is rising 3 and definitely still black! Not a grey hair on his body as yet. His sire was a coloured stallion. He was a mushroom colour as a foal and shed out to brown and then all black.
 
millikins said:
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Sorry, never grasped how to put pic in, this is what I mean, is this mare grey or silver dapple?
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Almost certainly grey. Silver dapple is very rare. It isn't the dapples shape that makes them a silver dapple, it's the fact they stay as they're nothing to do with greying out (it's just that greying out makes dapples visible for a while) She MIGHT be silver dapple but she's also grey. It's extremely unlikely.

I think(but might be wrong) that silver dapple is black with the excessive dapple gene. They don't grey out. I'd imagine they can also be bay and excessive dapple and chestnut and dapple. But maybe the dapple is only visible on a black coat? I'd say that link is actually chestnut greying out with extreme dapples.
 
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L&B said:
Here is my filly at 3months old. I am wondering if you guys think she will colour out to grey or not?

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She is now fully 7months and looks pretty 'standard bay' - her legs/muzzle have darkened up to deep bay and her coat is rich bay. The star (or pac-man if you like :P) on her head still remains and as far as I can see her coat looks bay through and through. No sign of white/greying hairs anywhere, none around eyes/lashes.
Tail and mane are black.

As you can see her Mum is a very pretty dapple in the background.
And her Dad is a traditional piebald.

I am in love with her completely, so I have no worries over the colour she will go, just very curious :) :)
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My mare started turning grey at 3.1/2 so there is always that possibility
 
Thanks for clearing that up RH20, I was beginning to have doubts myself! :p ;)

Yes, everyone is correct, if the mare has had non-grey offspring before, then she only has one copy of grey. So your foal has a 50% chance of greying out. However at the moment it looks like she doesn't carry the grey gene. Horses do grey out at different speeds as has been stated, so there is a chance that she's a slow greyer.

This is a fun site for playing with the various colour genes and seeing how they change the coat. http://www.jenniferhoffman.net/horse/horse-color-genetics.html

This site has good explanations with good photos.
http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/ecg_basics1.html
 
Faracat said:
Thanks for clearing that up RH20, I was beginning to have doubts myself! :p ;)

Yes, everyone is correct, if the mare has had non-grey offspring before, then she only has one copy of grey. So your foal has a 50% chance of greying out. However at the moment it looks like she doesn't carry the grey gene. Horses do grey out at different speeds as has been stated, so there is a chance that she's a slow greyer.

This is a fun site for playing with the various colour genes and seeing how they change the coat. http://www.jenniferhoffman.net/horse/horse-color-genetics.html

This site has good explanations with good photos.
http://www.whitehorseproductions.com/ecg_basics1.html
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Great stuff will have a look at those sites when I have a sec. Thankyou xx
 
millikins said:
Is the mare really "dapple grey", her markings are sort of star shaped, can't remember the correct term. I too think from what I've read posted by knowledgeable folk here your foal won't grey out. Another query, I rather thought Faracat was a "he" but apologies F if I'm wrong.
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Eh? Isn't this thread about colours of horses, not sex/gender of forum persons? Although I spent ten months on another forum where it turned out everyone thought I was male. There aren't many female wargamers apparently.

I'm betting foal stays bay. Even it it greys out, technically it will still be bay! And with our weather, mud coloured. Absolutely adorable little foal too, by the way :)
 
Think your filly will stay bay! Mum is stunning!

My boss had a legrande baby this year out of a grey mare. They thought he'd go grey but he has never had spectacles so I thought not... he's had grey hairs in his coat etc but otherwise he's dun/buckskin. He'll be 8 months on the 18th of Jan!
 
Unfortunately dun/buckskin are some of the most sneaky grey-ers! I had one that waited until he was nearly 4 to start to go grey, owners were Sooo disappointed. The darker foal coats are easiest to see grey in, but sometimes you have to look quite hard/with an experienced eye. I bought a "black" foal that I knew would grey out; could have sold him many times over to people who wanted a black, but I knew he was a secret grey and kept him until he was! (then sold him to someone who liked a grey).
 
Faracat said:
Yes, everyone is correct, if the mare has had non-grey offspring before, then she only has one copy of grey. So your foal has a 50% chance of greying out.
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Hi Faracat, sorry for interrupting but I have a semi related question. I have noticed that homozygous grey horses seem to be whiter/grey out quicker than those who are heterozygous. Is there any truth to this or just coincidence? Thanks :)
 
I would say she will stay bay, it is likey to be her mothers base coat and foal coats do change quite a bit over time, but its usually pretty obvious if they are going to grey and by 7 months i be expecting to see some ticking coming through at least. She looks lovely though both of them look very striking.
 
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