wimpy pony! 18deg qnd shivering!

TigerTail said:
WELL RUGGED SINCE AUGUST?!?!?


holy *!@*!!!!! why on earth?! Please tell me this is a troll post that poor poor horse :o

It mustve been cooking for petes sake is there no thought AT ALL to the horses comfort?! Or how they are designed as animals to live outside and survive without being 'well rugged' in a summer which has been 24 degrees, wind/ hill what ever :o
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My guess from the outset is that OP is trying to cause a stir up. Childish.
 
Even my wimpy self harming tb and hippo pony are still out 24-7 naked (although they are a bit hairy now!) My big lad and babyhorse have a light weight sheet on but only at night.

I always wonder what people do in dec/jan when it's -5 and they've been rugging since early Autumn. Surely they loose any benefit of being rugged?
 
slumdog said:
I always wonder what people do in dec/jan when it's -5 and they've been rugging since early Autumn. Surely they loose any benefit of being rugged?
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They just add more and more and more rugs. Makes much more sense than just allowing the horse to grow a winter coat.
 
Moomin1 said:
Mm true.

What I find quite ironic is the use of the term 'well rugged' by OP. If that is 'rugging well' then I am Osama Bin Laden!
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Any rugging in august is "Bad rugging" Hope the OP has got the message. * wanders off mumbling about the old days when rugging fetish was not an illness*
 
Oh FFS people

You don't know me or my horse it what I mean by well rugged. Well rugged for August meant a fly rug or rain sheet + a cotton sheet at night.

This forum is getting completely out of hand. Everyone gets jumped on for nothing.

Get a life honestly.

Justabob every post I read from you just makes me realise what a vile lonely person you must be.
 
Sparklepony said:
Oh FFS people

You don't know me or my horse it what I mean by well rugged. Well rugged for August meant a fly rug or rain sheet + a cotton sheet at night.

This forum is getting completely out of hand. Everyone gets jumped on for nothing.

Get a life honestly.

Justabob every post I read from you just makes me realise what a vile lonely person you must be.
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Are you in a particularly cold part of the country? Serious question as I am surprised you needed a rainsheet, or a sheet at night, in August.
 
Umm well when it rains my horse wears a rain sheet, there was a few bucketing it down nights in august, not as many as last year but yes the rain sheets came out then!
 
I think rugging really is each to their own, to the few that don't rug, I wish I had horses that were happy to live out without, sadly I don't though!

My boss's ponies have been wearing cotton sheets all through the summer when they have been stabled overnight. A couple of nights when it absolutely chucked it down, my just-purchased underweight TB had a lightweight rain-sheet on, to keep him dry and warm, and to stop him loosing anymore weight.
 
To be fair there was a bit of horrible weather in September that had lots of people reaching for the rugs followed by quite a lot of days where the night temps dipped

It was the time when this arguement blew up last lol
 
One More said:
My boss's ponies have been wearing cotton sheets all through the summer when they have been stabled overnight.
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I would do the same if mine had been in overnight through summer. When out though they have been naked apart from on the wettest nights.
 
Whilst the care of horse is each to own there is now a push to rug more and more without thought to if needed and correct management of horse(prepares for backlash) (not helped by manufacturers) i have seen horses rugged cause temp dropa few degrees at night but rugs not removed in day in sun. rugs used rather than increase hay in winter so horse doesnt"drop" weight to "save"money(er of course you need to increase hay in winter). "oh i rug to keep him clean".Im not anti rug at all and would use if ness but less is more and it is a known fact a horse can keep its self warm easier with good management than to cool down when rugged.Hard hat at ready :)
 
This place is so weird. If someone doesn't look after their horse, they are evil and if someone OVER looks after their horse, they are evil too!
I don't rug my horse in Aug, however I couldn't be bothered to even spend a second thinking if someone who does is wrong-much less to spend time lambasting them on a forum. Maybe I'm going soft in my old age, but I think there are far more worrying things to get in a tizz about....like ACTUALLY badly treated horses....
 
I agree that there are far more worrying things that happen with regards to horse welfare, however over rugging is a welfare concern. An overrugged horse can become distressed and suffer to the extent of causing colic, which can be life threatening. It isn't always a case of a horse just being 'a bit warm'. I do despair when I read of horses being made to wear up to eight rugs, and fail to see how that can be helpful or healthy for the horse.

As has been said, good management is simply that, not piling on rugs in an anthropomorphic way, I am also not anti rug, but I am anti over rugging.
 
Sparklepony said:
Oh FFS people

You don't know me or my horse it what I mean by well rugged. Well rugged for August meant a fly rug or rain sheet + a cotton sheet at night.

This forum is getting completely out of hand. Everyone gets jumped on for nothing.

Get a life honestly.

Justabob every post I read from you just makes me realise what a vile lonely person you must be.
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leave them to it and come and join me in the *i rug and i bloody love it* corner ?!

mine were in rain sheets on the wet days in Aug too, and had either a fly rug type mesh rug or cotton sheet on overnight (stabled).

some posters on here are too thick to understand that if a horse is in hard work, and going to need clipping there is no point allowing them to get chilled, grow a huge thick coat and then fully clip it all off......

when its -5 i *think* mine were in cotton magnet rug as bottom layer, and then 120gm under rug (possibly the 220gm one, cant remember) and HW full necks but i judge it by each horse on each day instead of making black and white judgments without knowing the full facts...................................
 
Prince33Sp4rkle said:
leave them to it and come and join me in the *i rug and i bloody love it* corner ?!

mine were in rain sheets on the wet days in Aug too, and had either a fly rug type mesh rug or cotton sheet on overnight (stabled).

some posters on here are too thick to understand that if a horse is in hard work, and going to need clipping there is no point allowing them to get chilled, grow a huge thick coat and then fully clip it all off......

when its -5 i *think* mine were in cotton magnet rug as bottom layer, and then 120gm under rug (possibly the 220gm one, cant remember) and HW full necks but i judge it by each horse on each day instead of making black and white judgments without knowing the full facts...................................
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Sense at last!!

Honestly, I think some posters on here fail to realise that each horse is different - I have 2 horses that are each rugged differently:

S wore a sweet itch hoody or a rainsheet all summer, is totally failing to grow any kind of winter coat and is out in a 100g rug today and when stabled overnight. If he gets cold he starts pacing the fence, hooning around and being evil to his mates, if he gets too hot he itches like mad so I am careful to keep his temperature right. When it is minus 6 and he is clipped he will have a heavyweight with a fleece underneath.

C is more normal and has been naked all summer and is still naked now except for a sheet on rainy days.

His neighbour is the hottest horse I have met and has already been clipped as he was hot and sweaty just standing in his (well ventilated) stable!

ETA: I do think there is a problem with over-rugging in some cases and I have seen horses with pressure sores on their withers from the weight of all their rugs!
 
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I'm joining the rugging gang...I know my horses best thank you & if their needs are to wear several rugs then I have no qualms about putting them on & no sanctimonious poster on here will make me feel guilty :)

Never mind OP I saw the humour in your post, a nice try.....just a shame the 'anti rugging' brigade are using it as an excuse to have a pop at you & start a row.
I think I might go & buy a couple more rugs actually :D
 
Totally agree brownmare i had1 who was naked totally but fed hay to weather conditions but 1 that when needed it was rugged to conditions but not just cause weather changed. Both were monitor for cold weight etc. Its the rugging for rugging sake that tickles me and the lack of mangement when rugged ie not removed or changed if weather changes.just my experiences over last years and the sight of some very hot uncomftable horses. :) not anti rugging at all when used for horses best interests :)
 
A few people on this thread have mentioned 'rugging for ruggings sake' & owners not changing rugs appropriately.

Where has the OP done this? IMO the post shows a conscientious owner. She tried to let the horse have some time with the sun on its back. Horse didn't like the stiff breeze. So she put an appropriate rug on it.

I actually left my young lad rugged yesterday morning because it was still chilly but as it warmed up I nipped out & whipped his rugs off. He was happy as Larry naked for a couple of hours in the warmest part of the day but obviously started to feel the chill as the strength of the sun went. So he was rugged again. The other 2 were still happy naked. The old boy needed a light rug last night.
Hardly rugging for rugging's sake. IMO much better & thoughtful ownership than leaving a horse cold & unhappy just to write a smug post on a forum :)
 
Prince33Sp4rkle said:
lol lol lol! have you seen the new Euro Star stable rugs on fur feather meds? they are absolutely the most stunning things EVER but such a shame to get them covered in poo and stains! or the trust stable rugs (look at the Equitain page on FB, the wither pad idea is genius!)

it does drive me mad they i get hung drawn and quartered for rugging, when i clearly and repeatedly state that rug choices are reviewed daily, that i can even pop home and change them if weather changes mid day as i only work 3mins away, and that the horses are NEVER too hot, sweaty, itchy,rubbed etc.

i know someone who frequently leaves her horses in for days at a time in winter because she cant be assed to change 3 sets of rugs,bandages,hoods etc, or leaves them in the same rug (without straightening, taking off and replacing etc) for days in the summer because she doesnt want to then feel obliged to change them if horses are too hot or too cold etc.
now THAT is crap management.....................mine, out in multiple layers but warm, not rubbed, not sweaty,reviewed daily, is just a none issue surely?
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Fur Feather Meds should come with a warning...I could (actually I probably have ;) ) spent £1000's on there :D
I hadn't seen the rugs with the either pad before...genius.

*\o/* my horses will have lots of pretty new rugs [HHO combusts in horror]
 
Prince33Sp4rkle said:
leave them to it and come and join me in the *i rug and i bloody love it* corner ?!

mine were in rain sheets on the wet days in Aug too, and had either a fly rug type mesh rug or cotton sheet on overnight (stabled).
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Mine too!

Our polo ponies were in fly sheets by day, and rainsheets by night - because none of our ponies like to stand in the p*ssing rain and to get cold. When they were in overnight they were in summer sheets.

Now they are on their holidays they are all out now naked now the midges and flies have stopped annoying them, and all growing a good winter coat, but I will have no qualms whatsoever about popping their lightweight rugs on once it gets cold. And by February I imagine we'll have their heavyweights out again in the snow like last year.

I would rather my ponies came through the winter well covered and warm, and if that means rugging them then so be it.
 
Can I join the *I love rugging* gang :D.

Love reading about all these horses who don't need rugs and that if your horse does need them then it *must* be ill/suffering/bad management etc etc!
Perfect example of me being a terrible mum was yesterday, seemed like it was going to be a lovely day so removed Doodle's rug. 4 hours and a light shower later, I raced back to the yard to put the rug back on as she was shivering! If she gets wet she will shiver at any time of the year, water just makes her cold nowt I can do about her reaction to water, but I will rug her so she doesn't get wet...
Topaz on the other hand is still naked and fine, shockingly the fact that she is very different coat and build wise to Doodle means her rugging needs are different.

*Wanders off to tell Doodle she must man up and stop being a wimp, a 20 year old PBA can survive a bit of drizzle*
 
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