Window shopping - horses.

Faracat said:
Well I do like keeping an eye on what's about even though I really, really can't buy anything at the moment. There's also a Shanghai EA son on preloved. The worst though was when my grey's full brother was on arabianlines. I really had to sit on my hands then. Luckily they decided to keep him and withdrew his ad. Phew!

It looks like I'm not alone anyway. Quite a few HHO'ers like window shopping too. :p
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I always look at what Arabs are for sale always have its torture and looking on the round oak Arab stud website is also an addiction of mine, they always have many of Arabi's half siblings for sale why do we do it eh!

Was that your Montoya geldings sibling you saw?
 
Mrs G said:
You could call it window shopping I suppose, but I prefer it to think of it as preparation - for when I win the lottery and need to fill my luxurious super dooper yard with lots of gorgeous horses. It is inevitable so I must be ready for it...
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This is me exactly :) It's definitely going to happen... :D
 
Pinkvboots said:
I know and I love both of them do you know his dam line might have to message the seller and ask his got the sweetest face, I wonder if I could get away with bringing another one home without the oh noticing, as long as I only have two of them in the stable at any time I don't think he would notice :)
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Stival is a nice stallion but I'm more interested in the Dam lines rather than Sire, I do think Gazal Al Shaqab is stunning though :)

Yes I think you could do that :D
 
Pinkvboots said:
I always look at what Arabs are for sale always have its torture and looking on the round oak Arab stud website is also an addiction of mine, they always have many of Arabi's half siblings for sale why do we do it eh!

Was that your Montoya geldings sibling you saw?
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I have seen a paternal half sister that looked like my boy's double - flaxen chestnut with lots of white. There have been a couple of other lovely Montoya offspring that I had to resist. One was Sahir Forever and the other was a grey that had Camargue on the damside, like my boy does.

My grey is by Calimeer. If her full brother was half as nice as she is, he would be wonderful. If I'd won the lottery like MrsG hopes to, I'd have bought him before they changed their mind! :D
 
Tern said:
I always window shop.This lad has really tugged at my heartstrings. I just don't have the facilities though. I do wish that HHO member was to buy him so I could keep up to date with him. :)

Sorry for probably large pic.

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http://www.horsequest.co.uk/search.aspx?ds=1&c=&rn=120783
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I love him! He looks like he could be really special once he gets over being so nervous.
 
Faracat said:
I have seen a paternal half sister that looked like my boy's double - flaxen chestnut with lots of white. There have been a couple of other lovely Montoya offspring that I had to resist. One was Sahir Forever and the other was a grey that had Camargue on the damside, like my boy does.

My grey is by Calimeer. If her full brother was half as nice as she is, he would be wonderful. If I'd won the lottery like MrsG hopes to, I'd have bought him before they changed their mind! :D
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Sahir forever is really nice you don't see many montoya babies much any more is he still abroad?

I am not that familiar with calimeer of to Google him now:)
 
Ooh I LOVE window shopping for horses! Although I feel a bit guilty as my horse is totally perfect and wonderful in every way so I would never part with him. I am very fickle though … I veer from the OTTB (well, SOME of them are quiet!) to the 17hh RID (so gorgeously chunky and solid) to the arab / appaloosa / palomino. I am also kidding myself that I am looking for my sister's next horse as she has a veteran and is thinking about getting a second string….

I like to try and guess the price too as I read the ad on horse quest, I am getting quite good at it now particularly on the £10k plus ones! :)
 
Llee94 said:
I love him! He looks like he could be really special once he gets over being so nervous.
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Exactly! My type of horse, would probably make a nice eventer and obviously a show jumper! He is rather close to me as well as a little bit of research has told me rough area, however I still don't have the land for him!
 
Pinkvboots said:
Quite far from me then I looked at a horsebox there a few years back it was a dealer near kidderminster can't remember exactly where, agree dam side is very important with breeding.

Do you breed Arabs?
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I've seen a lot of people make such a fuss over Stallions and not bothering with Mares, for me it's the other way round, I prefer a quality Dam line with a good stallion. :)

Goodness no I don't breed but that would be my dream job :D
 
Faracat said:
I also look for my sister, even though she's not looking to buy at the moment. She likes completely different horses to me, but I still enjoy keeping an eye out for ones that would suit her.
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I'm thinking of my Niece with this Welsh pony too, she'll be three next year and I want to get her horse mad asap :D

I do know someone who would also professionally break her/him to drive as well, so would make a nice driving pony for my mother :)
 
Tern said:
Exactly! My type of horse, would probably make a nice eventer and obviously a show jumper! He is rather close to me as well as a little bit of research has told me rough area, however I still don't have the land for him!
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I was so tempted to call them! He is exactly the type I have always wanted. It was only the other day that I was saying I wanted to look for something to bring on and sell while my youngster matures over the next year.
However, I think I would end up falling in love and never being able to part with him which I unfortunately I can't afford to do.
 
The mare is possibly more important than the stallion.

My boy is not much like his mother though, he was really stamped by his sire both in looks and temperament. My grey is a good mix of both of her parents.
 
Faracat said:
The mare is possibly more important than the stallion.

My boy is not much like his mother though, he was really stamped by his sire both in looks and temperament. My grey is a good mix of both of her parents.
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I just don't see why so many people seem to be obsessive over stallions and never even mention the mare or the dam line :?

But if you have got two fantastic parents then the little one should come out great :)
 
This is amazing...just a spotted horse one of you liked and he's related to mares I have. It's Tern's OBOS Quality, he is a serious jumper. I went buying broodmares last summer, it was a dispersal sale, as the owner had died. I was tempted to buy that horse's mother as her dam was by Ricardo Z and I liked the breeding but I got a shock when I checked the pedigree further. The dam Garrison Nancy is a half sister of the stallion Garrison Royal, he is also the sire of this horses mother Garrison Bay. I thought covering a sister with a brother was a little too close for my liking. I have no objection to her offspring though - that lad can really jump! I'm not surprised, his damline is really good, it's peppered with international performers.
 
Here's just part of the damline for the OBOS horse, he is related also to some serious eventers. Garrison Robert 2*, Monart's Garrison Guy - represented Ireland last year at Le Lion D'Angers.

This shows mainly jumpers and is incomplete, where you see the stallion Garrison Royal it should show a sister, Garrison Nancy - this horse's grandmother.

http://horseandbreeder.com/mareline.php?thishorse=32555
 
Oh dear... I'd just about weaned myself off this painful habit before this thread. I am badly addicted to "window shopping".

Faracat said:
I also look for my sister, even though she's not looking to buy at the moment. She likes completely different horses to me, but I still enjoy keeping an eye out for ones that would suit her.
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I do this for my partner. He likes a very different type to me too. We are currently spoilt for choice of arabs (and palominos!) to ride but my type is more dressage iberian. He likes jumping and has expressed interest in arabs (for jumping, yes!) or warmbloods were we to buy.

Unfortunately, "my type" is rather on the expensive side... I saw an unbacked filly for $15,000 - granddaughter of one of my favourite sporty Andalusian sires... Ugh.
In California.
I live in London...


By the way Sahara, there is some sense in the sire obsession... Of course, a mare and stallion contribute equally to the genetic makeup of their offspring and, if anything, the mare influences the foal more because she impacts its growth rate. However, because mares are limited greatly in terms of numbers of foals they can produce, it is much easier to judge the quality of a stallion than a mare. A mare, by the time you buy one of her offspring, may have maybe had 10 foals. While a stallion may have sired hundreds. So while you should ultimately care about both the sire and dam, the quality of the sire can be judged, statistically, more accurately by a few magnitudes. As such, in a world with limited resources, you're better off concentrating on finding a good sire than a good dam. A "good" sire is "definitely" good. While a good dam may just have been "lucky" so far.
 
Barnacle said:
Oh dear... I'd just about weaned myself off this painful habit before this thread. I am badly addicted to "window shopping".



I do this for my partner. He likes a very different type to me too. We are currently spoilt for choice of arabs (and palominos!) to ride but my type is more dressage iberian. He likes jumping and has expressed interest in arabs (for jumping, yes!) or warmbloods were we to buy.

Unfortunately, "my type" is rather on the expensive side... I saw an unbacked filly for $15,000 - granddaughter of one of my favourite sporty Andalusian sires... Ugh.
In California.
I live in London...


By the way Sahara, there is some sense in the sire obsession... Of course, a mare and stallion contribute equally to the genetic makeup of their offspring and, if anything, the mare influences the foal more because she impacts its growth rate. However, because mares are limited greatly in terms of numbers of foals they can produce, it is much easier to judge the quality of a stallion than a mare. A mare, by the time you buy one of her offspring, may have maybe had 10 foals. While a stallion may have sired hundreds. So while you should ultimately care about both the sire and dam, the quality of the sire can be judged, statistically, more accurately by a few magnitudes. As such, in a world with limited resources, you're better off concentrating on finding a good sire than a good dam. A "good" sire is "definitely" good. While a good dam may just have been "lucky" so far.
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While I understand this I Still prefer a Quality Dam line with good Stallions. And the Bedouin did well :)

But I do understand what you mean ;)
 
Barnacle said:
I do this for my partner. He likes a very different type to me too. We are currently spoilt for choice of arabs (and palominos!) to ride but my type is more dressage iberian. He likes jumping and has expressed interest in arabs (for jumping, yes!) or warmbloods were we to buy.

Unfortunately, "my type" is rather on the expensive side... I saw an unbacked filly for $15,000 - granddaughter of one of my favourite sporty Andalusian sires... Ugh.
In California.
I live in London...


By the way Sahara, there is some sense in the sire obsession... Of course, a mare and stallion contribute equally to the genetic makeup of their offspring and, if anything, the mare influences the foal more because she impacts its growth rate. However, because mares are limited greatly in terms of numbers of foals they can produce, it is much easier to judge the quality of a stallion than a mare. A mare, by the time you buy one of her offspring, may have maybe had 10 foals. While a stallion may have sired hundreds. So while you should ultimately care about both the sire and dam, the quality of the sire can be judged, statistically, more accurately by a few magnitudes. As such, in a world with limited resources, you're better off concentrating on finding a good sire than a good dam. A "good" sire is "definitely" good. While a good dam may just have been "lucky" so far.
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I'm very jealous. I live in London too and am decidedly NOT spoilt for choice for arabs and palominos to ride, and I love arabs more than almost anything in the world.

I think the sire obsession is because for the most part if you're obsessing over the sire, the already have the mare. The mare is the reality, it's already set in stone, but you can obsess over and dream about the unknown quality to your heart's content.

You may notice that I never, ever post but I was browsing the forum after 'window shopping' for the perfect teensy tiny show pony... for my currently 9-month-old twins. Yes, they definitely don't need a pony just yet - but mama does, apparently! Somebody find me the perfect lead-rein pony for tinies and then finance its upkeep until they can at least sit on it unassisted, please!
 
Goblins said:
I'm very jealous. I live in London too and am decidedly NOT spoilt for choice for arabs and palominos to ride, and I love arabs more than almost anything in the world.

I think the sire obsession is because for the most part if you're obsessing over the sire, the already have the mare. The mare is the reality, it's already set in stone, but you can obsess over and dream about the unknown quality to your heart's content.

You may notice that I never, ever post but I was browsing the forum after 'window shopping' for the perfect teensy tiny show pony... for my currently 9-month-old twins. Yes, they definitely don't need a pony just yet - but mama does, apparently! Somebody find me the perfect lead-rein pony for tinies and then finance its upkeep until they can at least sit on it unassisted, please!
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We should become friends if you love Arabs that much :D I have a huge affinity with Arabs :D
 
Sigh. I restrict my window shopping otherwise I would spend all day dreaming. My old lad is 23 and I won't get another one until he can't be ridden, unless something drops on my plate that's meant to be. I'm another PBA/Arab person, although for me they have to be small and sturdy types, like my lad's sire. (sire's pedigree here for anyone interested http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/presto22) and his dam was a solid decent unregistered welsh mare, section C from memory. I recently helped out bringing solid 16hh warmblood type back into work and actually enjoyed riding her more than I expected to. If I'd seen her advertised I'd have dismissed her as being 'too good' or too much horse for me. So maybe I should re-think!
 
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