Worms - warning gross pics!

[Btomkins]

I wormed Sherbert Sunday afternoon after finding a few small pinworms in her poo that morning and I was planning on doing it this week anyway.

I am rather horrified at the amount that has come out of her. Huge roundworms, loads of pinworms and also some red worms. I know youngsters have higher worm burdens but I don’t think this is normal? Could explain her rather scurfy coat and slight pot belly. Thankfully the wormer (5 day panacur) seems to be doing its job and Ben is being done too. Hopefully she’ll be feeling a bit better too, I on the other hand will be having nightmares about those roundworms ?

 

[Nasicus]

Enough to makes your skin crawl, isn't it!

3 out of 4 newbies I've initially wormed have produced absolute spaghetti junction writhing horrors afterwards. The weanling was the worst, we had red worms, round worms, pin worms AND tape worms out of her that time!
Amusingly, it was the 4th addition, rising 3yo bought unseen from Ireland that was clean as a whistle when she arrived!

 

[milliepops]

another one! my 3yo pooped out mountains of small redworm a fortnight ago. Mine had equest 3 months ago so it was a big surprise. I think it was @SEL that suggested the mild winters might be contributing to the problem.

 

[SEL]

another one! my 3yo pooped out mountains of small redworm a fortnight ago. Mine had equest 3 months ago so it was a big surprise. I think it was @SEL that suggested the mild winters might be contributing to the problem.

I've had quite a few friends posting pictures on FB of wrigglies in poo - and they all wormed pre Xmas too. I thought my friend's 6 month old colt had the best wormy poo pic but @Btomkins you definitely beat that!!!!

I did ponder whether it was the warm, wet winter allowing them to spread more than normal. I hope it isn't wormer resistance

 

[Birker2020]

You are lucky to eradicate pinworms that easy. With my horse I had to use something like two rounds of selenium sulphide shampoo and pinworm wash over four or five weeks and two wormers up the bottom and one orally and she still wasn't clear. It was a total nightmare and everyone on the yard got freaked out by it even though she never passed it on to anyone.

Out of all the colics, suspensory branch injuries, spavin, neck, fetlock and coffin joint arthritis problems over the years I can honestly say this was the hardest thing I have ever had to treat.

What wormer did you use OP???

 

[Bruce17]

Mine, who was done with Equest in January, produced a mountain of pinworm when redone with Strongid-P a week ago. I saw a couple in droppings a few weeks ago and was a bit surprised given the winter Equest dose.

 

[Birker2020]

Mine, who was done with Equest in January, produced a mountain of pinworm when redone with Strongid-P a week ago. I saw a couple in droppings a few weeks ago and was a bit surprised given the winter Equest dose.

It was Strongid P up the bottom and Panacur Guard 5 day orally that finally did it for my horse (at the same time).

 

[Surbie]

I'm waiting for my poo count results to come back from Westgate, but I didn't have time to muck out this morning and will have another grubble about in the poo to see if I can see anything. He's usually low count, but this is 4 months after a move to a new yard.

I just wanted to say I'm delighted with the ick levels in your photo OP. Nearly as good as a pus one!

 

[HLOEquestrian]

It was Strongid P up the bottom and Panacur Guard 5 day orally that finally did it for my horse (at the same time).

Hi, I’m also struggling with pinworm in my 21yo mare atm, we have tried everything, we were worming every 3 weeks with double dose strongid-p wormer then panacur 5 day and repeat, last wormer was 17th March and we thought we had them, but they have now re appeared nearly 2 months down the line ?

I just wondered how you knew that you’d got them all?

 

[Redders]

The thing with pin worms is that it is really easy for them to reinfect themselves. The eggs will be all over the stable HLOEequestrian, unless you haven’t already, I would chuck all bedding and disinfect. Also if your horse rubs anywhere in the field etc, that will also cause egg transfer. Worth considering if not getting rid of it

 

[Btomkins]

I’ll be very interested to see the egg count results I’ll do in a few weeks. I’m aware I’m probably in for the long haul trying to get rid totally but so far signs are good.

 

[HLOEquestrian]

The thing with pin worms is that it is really easy for them to reinfect themselves. The eggs will be all over the stable HLOEequestrian, unless you haven’t already, I would chuck all bedding and disinfect. Also if your horse rubs anywhere in the field etc, that will also cause egg transfer. Worth considering if not getting rid of it

Thanks for your reply, she isn’t stabled and is currently kept on her own while displaying symptoms, we have been extremely vigilant and she can’t rub on anything in the paddock she’s in. Poo picked daily and all tools are disinfected after use, bum also washed daily / Vaseline and or wormer and Vaseline mixture combined applied

 

[Btomkins]

You are lucky to eradicate pinworms that easy. With my horse I had to use something like two rounds of selenium sulphide shampoo and pinworm wash over four or five weeks and two wormers up the bottom and one orally and she still wasn't clear. It was a total nightmare and everyone on the yard got freaked out by it even though she never passed it on to anyone.

Out of all the colics, suspensory branch injuries, spavin, neck, fetlock and coffin joint arthritis problems over the years I can honestly say this was the hardest thing I have ever had to treat.

What wormer did you use OP???

Sorry only just realised you asked a question. I used panacur 5 day. Well aware it’s probably not got rid of everything but seems to have done a pretty good job and signs are good so far. Worm count in a few weeks will tell!

 

[BeckyFlowers]

Hi, I’m also struggling with pinworm in my 21yo mare atm, we have tried everything, we were worming every 3 weeks with double dose strongid-p wormer then panacur 5 day and repeat, last wormer was 17th March and we thought we had them, but they have now re appeared nearly 2 months down the line ?

I just wondered how you knew that you’d got them all?

Mine had pinworms on and off for maybe two and a half years - absolute nightmare to get rid of, but he hasn't had them now for ages. With mine it was just a case of regular worming (I used Panacur five day, double dose Strongid-P, ivermectin, and Equest) and daily bum-wiping. At one stage I got the vet involved as I was at my wit's end (this was in approx January a few years ago) - she said to worm with Equest, and then ivermectin every 12 weeks throughout spring, summer and early autumn. I think I also gave him a double dose of Strongid-P three weeks after the Equest. That, along with bum-wiping and using neem oil or Vaseline around the anus eventually got rid of them and he's been clear since. In the summer he's on restricted grazing so the daily poo-picking probably helped. I know when mine has them as he scratches his ass incessantly, poor bloke. I don't envy you at all, and I feel your pain, but it might be worth speaking to your vet about it.

 

[HLOEquestrian]

Mine had pinworms on and off for maybe two and a half years - absolute nightmare to get rid of, but he hasn't had them now for ages. With mine it was just a case of regular worming (I used Panacur five day, double dose Strongid-P, ivermectin, and Equest) and daily bum-wiping. At one stage I got the vet involved as I was at my wit's end (this was in approx January a few years ago) - she said to worm with Equest, and then ivermectin every 12 weeks throughout spring, summer and early autumn. I think I also gave him a double dose of Strongid-P three weeks after the Equest. That, along with bum-wiping and using neem oil or Vaseline around the anus eventually got rid of them and he's been clear since. In the summer he's on restricted grazing so the daily poo-picking probably helped. I know when mine has them as he scratches his ass incessantly, poor bloke. I don't envy you at all, and I feel your pain, but it might be worth speaking to your vet about it.

Thanks for your reply, I have been looking over old threads on here tonight and have been screenshotting your posts to discuss with my yard owner.

The vet is involved and is now running out of suggestions, I’ve asked whether Piperazine is an option as apparently can be strong enough to wipe the whole lot but tricky to get hold of unfortunately, she’s seeing if she can track any down.

I was hoping to move yards next month but unfortunately this isn’t going to be an option with the worms back, need to discuss with the new yard ?

Current yard is doing all the right things with the disinfecting and bum cleaning, I think unfortunately we just stopped our worming routine too early, appears we killed off the adult worms but eggs survived and these are now fully grown

We had the most visible result with ivermectin (really wormy poo afterwards) so have ordered that to re-start our working programme...

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

I just wanted to say I'm delighted with the ick levels in your photo OP. Nearly as good as a pus one!

I’ve seen a great pus one day, a mate’s foal has multiple abscesses, bless, there was one broken open today, amazing pus release, she knows I love this stuff so recorded it for me. Two in one day, amazing!

I might do a Panacur 5 day given the boy is still on box rest, 9 weeks and counting. ?

 

[BeckyFlowers]

Thanks for your reply, I have been looking over old threads on here tonight and have been screenshotting your posts to discuss with my yard owner.

The vet is involved and is now running out of suggestions, I’ve asked whether Piperazine is an option as apparently can be strong enough to wipe the whole lot but tricky to get hold of unfortunately, she’s seeing if she can track any down.

I was hoping to move yards next month but unfortunately this isn’t going to be an option with the worms back, need to discuss with the new yard ?

Current yard is doing all the right things with the disinfecting and bum cleaning, I think unfortunately we just stopped our worming routine too early, appears we killed off the adult worms but eggs survived and these are now fully grown

We had the most visible result with ivermectin (really wormy poo afterwards) so have ordered that to re-start our working programme...

I'm sure you know all about it by now, but the problem with pinworms is their long life cycle (five months or something), so it's all about interrupting it for that whole time and then a bit more - the ivermectin throughout the spring summer and autumn, as described, was the turning point for me and my horse I think. I made the mistake (a few times) of worming, horse stopped itching, so I thought it was fine. I did end up wondering if what I was doing was ethical due to the amount of drugs (wormers) I was banging down his throat but he seemed fine and it worked out for the best in the end.

 

[HLOEquestrian]

I'm sure you know all about it by now, but the problem with pinworms is their long life cycle (five months or something), so it's all about interrupting it for that whole time and then a bit more - the ivermectin throughout the spring summer and autumn, as described, was the turning point for me and my horse I think. I made the mistake (a few times) of worming, horse stopped itching, so I thought it was fine. I did end up wondering if what I was doing was ethical due to the amount of drugs (wormers) I was banging down his throat but he seemed fine and it worked out for the best in the end.

They are such a nightmare, I’m definitely worried about the about of chemicals she’s ingesting but don’t seem to have any other choice, viscous circle as well as the more you worm the more resistance builds up!

Thanks for your advice, how long would you say you consistently wormed for in the final time before you trusted that they were gone?

 

[BeckyFlowers]

They are such a nightmare, I’m definitely worried about the about of chemicals she’s ingesting but don’t seem to have any other choice, viscous circle as well as the more you worm the more resistance builds up!

Thanks for your advice, how long would you say you consistently wormed for in the final time before you trusted that they were gone?

I did the Equest in January, three weeks later a double dose of Strongid-P, then I started the ivermectin every 12 weeks when we changed to summer grazing (probably first half of April) and then continued throughout, final ivermectin was when we moved back to winter grazing (around October/November) and then an Equest in mid-winter - by then I was pretty sure I had done all I could, and I remember thinking if this doesn't work I don't know what else can be done! But he had no symptoms after the first Equest dose, so I know that it had worked. Not had them since, but I still give him an ivermectin in the mid-summer, as well as in spring and autumn (for paddock changes), and the Equest in mid-winter.

I remember when I had the vet out she was saying that she had just attended a parasitology symposium, and that re pinworm the new advice is regular oral ivermectin, and that the up-the-bum wormer is a complete waste of money as it only goes a tiny way in so it completely misses the vast majority of the worms - she said it's better to give it to them orally.

It sounds like you're doing everything right, so it's just a question of perseverance, hard work and meticulousness. Good luck, I'm sure you will triumph

 

[SEL]

I had no vet agreement to do this, but I have used pour on cattle ivermectin as a wash for pin worm too. Might be worth running past your vet