FestiveFuzz
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Assuming it is just a case of the daughter being over-horsed and not a physical or psychological I see no reason why the OP couldn't sell the horse on as a project for someone more capable.
Worried About Daughters New Horse (sorry if long!)
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reecebailey
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Just to add to my previous post, having had a rethink, it would be highly irresponsible to sell on a dangerous horse unless you fully disclosed your reasons for making the sale...so there's another option...however it's not one alot of people have the stomach for, despite it being a viable option in order to prevent the horse future suffering, or it injuring someone else
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I don't think I could put him to sleep and daughter would kill me! As someone said before, I am keeping him so my daughter doesn't get upset but while I do feel a responsibility to keep her safe, I also feel I should let her keep him if she wants (with the 6 months agreement). If she decides to give him up she will have learnt her lesson, but me just getting rid of him will just cause anger and arguments. I have told her if she wants to find something else, we can go out tommorow and get one but she is still saying by 6 months he will be different..we can hope. i don't see who else will buy him? The new rules are no unsupervised riding, no hacking alone, and a body protector! So if she still wants to carry on with these rules for at least 6 months I will let her. I'm still not happy about the horse though, I will try and get a video tommorow so you can see what he can be like!
Just to add to my previous post, having had a rethink, it would be highly irresponsible to sell on a dangerous horse unless you fully disclosed your reasons for making the sale...so there's another option...however it's not one alot of people have the stomach for, despite it being a viable option in order to prevent the horse future suffering, or it injuring someone else
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I don't think I could put him to sleep and daughter would kill me! As someone said before, I am keeping him so my daughter doesn't get upset but while I do feel a responsibility to keep her safe, I also feel I should let her keep him if she wants (with the 6 months agreement). If she decides to give him up she will have learnt her lesson, but me just getting rid of him will just cause anger and arguments. I have told her if she wants to find something else, we can go out tommorow and get one but she is still saying by 6 months he will be different..we can hope. i don't see who else will buy him? The new rules are no unsupervised riding, no hacking alone, and a body protector! So if she still wants to carry on with these rules for at least 6 months I will let her. I'm still not happy about the horse though, I will try and get a video tommorow so you can see what he can be like!
FestiveFuzz
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What happens if your daughter has an accident during this 6 month period? Do I assume she will have also learnt her lesson then?
You were obviously worried enough about the situation or you wouldn't have come online and asked advice. It just seems silly that you are keeping this horse to avoid anger and arguments from your daughter when ultimately her safety could be at risk.
You were obviously worried enough about the situation or you wouldn't have come online and asked advice. It just seems silly that you are keeping this horse to avoid anger and arguments from your daughter when ultimately her safety could be at risk.
Sky123
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What happens if your daughter has an accident during this 6 month period? Do I assume she will have also learnt her lesson then?
You were obviously worried enough about the situation or you wouldn't have come online and asked advice. It just seems silly that you are keeping this horse to avoid anger and arguments from your daughter when ultimately her safety could be at risk.
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I am worried over the situation, but she is having restricted riding and help off a trainer soon (hopefully.) And I was ready to sell the horse last week, but some people on here have had similar situations and they don't regret anything, but maybe they are the lucky ones. I mean, I had her when I was 16 and hated my mother over massive fallouts, which isn't the same situation obviously, but I don't want to force her to sell him. I feel the 6 months is reasonable enough. They are doing cross country at the weekend, so if he does anything then I think I may change my mind about him staying!!
I just want to thank everyone for their answers anyway, they have all helped.
What happens if your daughter has an accident during this 6 month period? Do I assume she will have also learnt her lesson then?
You were obviously worried enough about the situation or you wouldn't have come online and asked advice. It just seems silly that you are keeping this horse to avoid anger and arguments from your daughter when ultimately her safety could be at risk.
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I am worried over the situation, but she is having restricted riding and help off a trainer soon (hopefully.) And I was ready to sell the horse last week, but some people on here have had similar situations and they don't regret anything, but maybe they are the lucky ones. I mean, I had her when I was 16 and hated my mother over massive fallouts, which isn't the same situation obviously, but I don't want to force her to sell him. I feel the 6 months is reasonable enough. They are doing cross country at the weekend, so if he does anything then I think I may change my mind about him staying!!
I just want to thank everyone for their answers anyway, they have all helped.
Booboos
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Good luck with it all!
BTW how are you getting on with the aggresive dog? (sorry if there are more than one people using this account, the aggresive dog post under this username was by someone who was 19 - do you have two daughters who are also using this username?)
BTW how are you getting on with the aggresive dog? (sorry if there are more than one people using this account, the aggresive dog post under this username was by someone who was 19 - do you have two daughters who are also using this username?)
reecebailey
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Good luck with it all!
BTW how are you getting on with the aggresive dog? (sorry if there are more than one people using this account, the aggresive dog post under this username was by someone who was 19 - do you have two daughters who are also using this username?)
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Hi, thank you. Yyeah, he's my other daugthers dog, not mine!!
(she told me about the site and was must have been logged on to hers, she'll kill me
) She had a trainer for the dog and hes getting better, I'm not to sure though as the dog lives with her dad, but she says he no longer growls/barks at males on walks which is good. But he still can't accept them in the house.
Thank you.
Good luck with it all!
BTW how are you getting on with the aggresive dog? (sorry if there are more than one people using this account, the aggresive dog post under this username was by someone who was 19 - do you have two daughters who are also using this username?)
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Hi, thank you. Yyeah, he's my other daugthers dog, not mine!!
Thank you.
Booboos
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That's great news, glad the dog is improving and best of luck with the horse! (animals, who'd have them!!!)
Serenity087
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QR.
I shall go against the general grain because I've been here too!
I got myself a completely out of this world welsh cob when I was 12. She spent the next 6 months of her life trying to kill me.
She'd be on two legs when I rode her, two legs when I led her, she'd crush me if she saw the other pony we had (and later would crush me if she DIDN'T see him!). She'd kick, bite, headbutt... you name it, she's done it.
She was utterly foul.
My father wanted rid. At times I didn't know why I bothered. But my mother, who is incredably horsey, to be fair, perservered.
We discovered that if we lunged her until she was tired, she was mountable without rearing. We also decided it was easier to leave her with the pony all the time and handle them together.
about 9 months after I got her, I had a perfectly sound little mare. She never hurt another soul again, never reared again, and was my best friend for the short time we had her.
The only problem with my horse was in her head. No vets, no saddles, none of this back/teeth mumbo jumbo. Just straightforward horse handling.
I would take JG up on her offer, contact a trainer and learn how to put ponio in his place.
And for the record, although I joined HHO after she died, I made a post about my horse to see what people thought. They all told me to sell her.
I'd have affectively sold my best friend.
(and she cost £100!)
I shall go against the general grain because I've been here too!
I got myself a completely out of this world welsh cob when I was 12. She spent the next 6 months of her life trying to kill me.
She'd be on two legs when I rode her, two legs when I led her, she'd crush me if she saw the other pony we had (and later would crush me if she DIDN'T see him!). She'd kick, bite, headbutt... you name it, she's done it.
She was utterly foul.
My father wanted rid. At times I didn't know why I bothered. But my mother, who is incredably horsey, to be fair, perservered.
We discovered that if we lunged her until she was tired, she was mountable without rearing. We also decided it was easier to leave her with the pony all the time and handle them together.
about 9 months after I got her, I had a perfectly sound little mare. She never hurt another soul again, never reared again, and was my best friend for the short time we had her.
The only problem with my horse was in her head. No vets, no saddles, none of this back/teeth mumbo jumbo. Just straightforward horse handling.
I would take JG up on her offer, contact a trainer and learn how to put ponio in his place.
And for the record, although I joined HHO after she died, I made a post about my horse to see what people thought. They all told me to sell her.
I'd have affectively sold my best friend.
(and she cost £100!)
Brandysnap
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Hi again, getcape,
So much good advice on here! Vet's eliminated problems (but getting good saddle fitter may be worth doing, as good saddle fitter looks at things outside vet's remit, which could affect horse).
Feed/turnout have been discussed (ie, he has loads of turnout, little feed, which is great).
Interesting that you got £4K for your 13.2, but only prepared to pay £600 (half asking price) for a 16.1 TBx.
Hard facts are -why were the owners prepared to accept such a low price? And, although daughter's 16, it's a big jump from ponies to horses (i often think ponies look after themselves + us, while horses look for guidance from us, + the more TB they are, the more dependent they are? Open to comments on this, obviously, maybe a new thread? About horses are trained, etc?)
I'd expect to pay about £2-3K for a decent, sound 11 yr old TBx that's done a bit. Many people pay a lot more. So it appears that owners accept there's a problem, + they want shut.
But it could be that previous owners just didn't have a clue? (My 2 most talented horses came from such owners, who couldn't do a thing with them! And i'm no brill rider, believe me!)
None of us on a forum can give really good advice, as we haven't seen you, your daughter, or the horse, but it seems like we're in universal agreement that you need a good trainer asap (+ you'd be surprised at their depth of knowledge).
In meantime, totally agree with Harper-gal's suggestion of lungeing. Best trainer i ever had used to say to me 'lunge him to death before you leave yard (ie, my spooky, manic TBx), then ride him in, put him away, ride him in again, then do your dressage test.' It worked. The rest of the BE event went great...
Tbs have loads of energy...
I read in a previous post of yours that you're in West Yorks. Come on, other friends on forum, share info on good trainers in West Yorks? Long way from my area, hope others will come up with goods (+ www.BHS.org.uk has list of qualified + registered trainers)
Good luck, friend, + stop worrying! All bests, BS x
PS:She's not out clubbing + boozing, like i was at 16, cos my parents never got me a pony! My best wishes to her x
So much good advice on here! Vet's eliminated problems (but getting good saddle fitter may be worth doing, as good saddle fitter looks at things outside vet's remit, which could affect horse).
Feed/turnout have been discussed (ie, he has loads of turnout, little feed, which is great).
Interesting that you got £4K for your 13.2, but only prepared to pay £600 (half asking price) for a 16.1 TBx.
Hard facts are -why were the owners prepared to accept such a low price? And, although daughter's 16, it's a big jump from ponies to horses (i often think ponies look after themselves + us, while horses look for guidance from us, + the more TB they are, the more dependent they are? Open to comments on this, obviously, maybe a new thread? About horses are trained, etc?)
I'd expect to pay about £2-3K for a decent, sound 11 yr old TBx that's done a bit. Many people pay a lot more. So it appears that owners accept there's a problem, + they want shut.
But it could be that previous owners just didn't have a clue? (My 2 most talented horses came from such owners, who couldn't do a thing with them! And i'm no brill rider, believe me!)
None of us on a forum can give really good advice, as we haven't seen you, your daughter, or the horse, but it seems like we're in universal agreement that you need a good trainer asap (+ you'd be surprised at their depth of knowledge).
In meantime, totally agree with Harper-gal's suggestion of lungeing. Best trainer i ever had used to say to me 'lunge him to death before you leave yard (ie, my spooky, manic TBx), then ride him in, put him away, ride him in again, then do your dressage test.' It worked. The rest of the BE event went great...
Tbs have loads of energy...
I read in a previous post of yours that you're in West Yorks. Come on, other friends on forum, share info on good trainers in West Yorks? Long way from my area, hope others will come up with goods (+ www.BHS.org.uk has list of qualified + registered trainers)
Good luck, friend, + stop worrying! All bests, BS x
PS:She's not out clubbing + boozing, like i was at 16, cos my parents never got me a pony! My best wishes to her x