Would you be upset...?

TinselPoker said:
If you saw a picture of a fellow livery and her horse wearing your horses things, without asking?
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Yes, I would be livid. When I was sharing a yard in the UK with a friend, I didn't mind at all, but after being on a yard here in Argentina and having to retrieve numnahs, headcollars and girths from other horses, finding my lunge line snapped in 2 places, the clips cut off my de gogue and my vet kit plundered, I have very little tolerance. I work very hard to buy my horses all the stuff they need, precisely so I don't have to borrow anyone else's (why should I? it's THEIR stuff) and see absolutely no need to fund someone else's hobby.
WTF hasn't this person got their own saddlecloth?
 
I'd be angry rather than upset that they had taken something without asking.

I don't mind people borrowing things, and would certainly not hesitate to lend/give first aid stuff, or for people to try something before they shell out on buying their own.

However, at the livery yard I used to be at, people were for ever borrowing mucking out tools, yard brooms, lunging stuff etc. This annoys me as they would do it on a daily basis, often leaving things filthy and not where I keep them. If you want a barrow (this is DIY) to muck out with, buy one. If your is broken and your waiting for a new one, by all means borrow mine, preferably not when I want to use it, leave in where it lives, empty. Someone borrowed my rake, the type that fans out when you push a lever. Broke it. I bought a new one. She borrowed it, broke it! Why should I pay for other people to use and break my things?
 
I'm not often that bothered but when my brand new rug that was given to me (I've never been given anything like this before). One day I went down the yard and found it on another liveries horse. This horse was a complete stress head and had sweated in this rug so that it was sodden and was covered in mud! I was beyond furious and demanded they paid to get it cleaned. They refused and the next day I found the rug dumped in front of my stable. It had never even been on my horse yet
 
I wouldn't be upset, I'd be annoyed. Allthough she had a genuine reason for using the saddle, I would still have expected her to ask! Saddlecloth aswell? Is she planning on buying that from you too?! :rolleyes:

There's only one other person on my yard that has a key for my tack room, she borrows my things all the time... Because I tell her she can use whatever she wants, but she does text and ask first (even if she doesn't wait for a reply!! Lol) :D I use her stuff all the time too.. Mainly her hibiscrub & lunge whip :D :D

There are a couple of grumpy guts on the yard that HATE you even touching their stuff.. they are sooooo rude! When I first moved onto the yard I went to poo-pick my field and got a load of abuse from them for using 'their' wheelbarrow by accident! They would probably murder you if you borrowed a headcollar... never mind a saddle!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
MiCsarah said:
I'm not often that bothered but when my brand new rug that was given to me (I've never been given anything like this before). One day I went down the yard and found it on another liveries horse. This horse was a complete stress head and had sweated in this rug so that it was sodden and was covered in mud! I was beyond furious and demanded they paid to get it cleaned. They refused and the next day I found the rug dumped in front of my stable. It had never even been on my horse yet
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Blimey! I'd have been annoyed too! :eek:

I think it depends on the item - I would never let anyone borrow my saddle, ever. Rugs I probably would providing it didn't leave my boy without a spare etc. but def not if the rug was new!

When camp is on on the Estate where I keep my horse we often have people using our stables - pre arranged by the YM. I do get annoyed with these people because they are not fellow liveries - they are strangers to me and if they were down on the camp field they would have to bring their own tools but because they're on our yard they think it's ok to use all of our mucking out equipment - last time my barrow was left with a flat tyre, I wasn't very happy!
 
I'm pretty easy going, I've got a lot of stuff (amassed over many years) and lots of it is no good for Markie. The majority of people who borrow on the yard have the courtesy to send a quick text to ask if it's okay, or, will let me know afterwards.
However, there is one person who isn't like that, helps themselves then you either have to hunt for it, get it back broken (never fixed or replaced), or, see a picture on FB with your own stuff used on another horse not even on the yard! For that reason, I keep stuff I'm more precious about locked away. Worst one was when I couldn't find my hat for days, I've got a masive head (7.25, full of brains!) and couldn't borrow one. Turns out this person needed a bigger hat to teach a beginner and had left it in their yard. She wasn't going back until the following week, cue me having to drive to the other side of the Island to fetch it.
It's a shame that their are people like that, horsey stuff always costs a bomb and horsey people are always skint, as sometimes is better to be able to just use something every now and again, rather than forking out.
 
From my point of view, I pay for my stuff and I expect it to be there when I want it, be that wheelbarrow (I bought a fairly large one so I can get both stables into it when in a rush on a morning), mucking out tools, headcollar, numnah, etc. We are all on DIY livery, therefore you should have what you need to see to your horse. You shouldn't NEED to borrow a headcollar as you should have one for your horse, you should have your own wheelbarrow, etc.

Having said that, if people ask me I am happy for them to borrow my stuff so long as they return it clean and as it was when I leant it to them. And if I do borrow something (very very rare as I own my own stuff!) I ensure it is clean and back where it lives, in the state it was when borrowed.
 
I'm generally easy going about lending stuff out, but it does do my head in having to hunt around for it when I need it! Not to mention the looks I get when I ask for it back-why shouldn't I use it when I like? It is mine after all!

And the stuff that does get broken, but no one knows who did it or how it happened. I borrowed a set of clippers from a fellow livery (with permission!) only for the motor to blow mid-clip, it was one of those things, could have happened at any time but as I was using it I was happy to pay half the costs of the repairs. Paid for the blade sharpening too in return for the lend.

I now have my own clippers though. ;)
 
I dont mind people using things if they put them away after. On the last livery yard one person kept using our big barrow to pick muck as it holds alot more than a normal one. The problem was that she kept leaving it FULL and IN THE FIELD so to use it ourselves we had to first fetch it, then empty it!!!! She got the message we didnt like it when we emptied it in the field where she left it!!!
 
Things like mucking out tools wouldn't bother me at all so long as they put them back when they'd finished. I would lend rugs/bits I wasn't using provided they were returned clean and in the same condition, basically anything that can be disinfected. I do think it's just manners to ask first though I'd be a bit peeved if someone just took that stuff without asking. Somethings however - tack, boots, grooming kit etc. absolutely no chance. It's too expensive and too risky in terms of disease spreading etc. What if someone drops you saddle and break it's tree?
 
ossy said:
"borrow" yes no problem we all need to sometimes. Taking without asking i'd be furious.

And yes I get protective over my stuff, not because I think having it makes me a better horse person but becasue I work dam hard to be able to afford my horse and all that goes with it and I don't expect people to just take my hard earned stuff witout asking. Usually people that don't ask and break or loose your stuff never own up to it either.
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This.
Also hate it when they 'borrow' something and when you ask for it back your made to feel like an impatient selfish person for asking (after waiting 4 weeks+ for it)
 
Starbucks said:
I’m quite bad for ransacking my friends box of stuff for things like horsey first aid and shampoo.. in fact I’ve used all the shampoo.. ooops! She doesn’t care, but I’m sure some of you would!
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I certainly WOULD care if I got to my stuff and it had all been used.....in fact, I'd probably say quite a lot..

It's one of the reasons I ended up at my own place, so no-one can now 'borrow' my hoof oil and other such stuff.

It's one thing helping someone out, then they replace it asap, but when they DON'T....then that's another thing entirely.
 
^^^ That!
Its one thing to borrow a wheelbarrow if yours has a flat tyre....or a headcollar if its an emergency, but taking peoples things is beyond the pale frankly.
The ONLY thing thats for everyone is the OMFG 1st aid kit, and its a general given that if you need it, you replace what you used.
 
Starbucks said:
I wouldn’t be upset!! Is that the word you meant to use??

I don’t really understand why people get all projective over their things. People at our yard get all upset if people use their wheelbarrow, they also seem to think that because they have their own wheelbarrow then it somehow makes them better horse people.. I mean wtf??

Wouldn’t be too bothered if someone needed to borrow my stuff tbh.
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People get upset if they work hard to pay for their stuff and some tarry fingered git uses it on their horse, or uses their equipment, especially when it continues over a period of time, tack and equipment get worn out quickly enough without having someone decide they'll , pardon the pun have a free ride on it.
If they dont even ask to borrow it, do you think theyd admit it if it was broken, i doubt it.
 
I once let a friend have the use of my Landrover as she was stuck, I am not precious about my things. She was still using it 9 months later and refering to it as "her Landrover". Eventually I asked for it back, as I needed it, she was livid and we have never spoken since. I also let another friend use my trailer she had that for a year or more, yes she maintained it and put some secondhand tyres on it, when I wanted that back she gave me a fecking bill!! FFS! So NO MORE.
 
I once loaned a good friend my car for 'a week'. She kept it for three months and when I asked for it back she promised to return it within 'a week'. A few days later she was involved in an accident and my poor car was written off!!
 
Merry Crisis said:
I once let a friend have the use of my Landrover as she was stuck, I am not precious about my things. She was still using it 9 months later and refering to it as "her Landrover". Eventually I asked for it back, as I needed it, she was livid and we have never spoken since. I also let another friend use my trailer she had that for a year or more, yes she maintained it and put some secondhand tyres on it, when I wanted that back she gave me a fecking bill!! FFS! So NO MORE.
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Good god.....
 
Merry Crisis said:
I once let a friend have the use of my Landrover as she was stuck, I am not precious about my things. She was still using it 9 months later and refering to it as "her Landrover". Eventually I asked for it back, as I needed it, she was livid and we have never spoken since. I also let another friend use my trailer she had that for a year or more, yes she maintained it and put some secondhand tyres on it, when I wanted that back she gave me a fecking bill!! FFS! So NO MORE.
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What a bloody cheek, you should have billed her for the use of your car for 9 months, some folks have no shame
 
I would not be in the least bit happy!!! Somewhat furious TBH!! The gear we all have to purchase for our horses is not cheap!!! I am somewhat precious about our stuff as we work hard for what we have! That and the fact that ' things' have grown legs and walked in the past!! Even when they are put away! So no, I would not be happy and yes, I would be furious!!
 
We all share wheelbarrows at my yard, and grooming kits etc...

it depends what it is. If it's a saddle or bridle, if it doesn't fit the horse properly, it could damage the horse and the tack :(
Someone 'accidently' borrowed my hat once :p I now have my name in it!
 
I've had stuff borrowed and broken - my dressage whip was found in the outdoor snapped in half.
it now lives in my car and the only person that gets to borrow my stuff is my dad.

ask permission and put it bloody back when you're done!
it's not difficult..

why was she using your numnah? is she that lazy that she couldn't be bothered taking it off the saddle?
 
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