Yard have been negligent.

I really dont want to be cruel mrsD but you really need to get rid of your horse. You arent caring for him the way he should be. Leaving him in a bog, not grooming him, not wanting to get him tested, wanting to hack him out whilst potentially contagious..

If that were me in your position i can 100% say i would have had him out of the ''bog'' and would be paying particular attention to him since he had been unwell. Sod your yard, the worst they can do is throw you off (which they cant do at the moment because of the outbreak).

There have been some excellent tips posted from people experienced with your situation and you are just arguing the case all the time which as everyone else agrees, is wrong.

You PMed me about what i said regarding you not being able to move him, and it didnt make sense, thats all i said but i still believe you could do more regarding where your horse is left.

I dont fully understand this thread when you are involved. Im only just beginning to enter the world of owning my own horse and it shocks me that you have been doing it for as long as you say you have and have such a blase attitude towards your horses wellbeing but cant do enough to find out who you can put the blame on...
 
MrsD123 said:
Why would you pay for your stable when you are barred from using it?
Would you pay for it if another horse was using it and was also paying?
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Yes if it was the case that you weren't to use it was on medical grounds.

However are you saying they have put another horse in your stable? If that is the case have you approached them about this and asked them why and aired your concerns over paying for something someone else is benefiting from?
 
I think the problem is MrsD that you have managed to get peoples backs up. You posted on here asking for advice/opinions & then have completely disregarded what everyone has said. You have blindly repeated yourself instead of responding to people whilst making absolutely no sense at times and you have also contradicted yourself on occasion.

I agree you are in a difficult position but you haven't really helped yourself on here by the way you come across, and if you are the same in person then maybe your yard aren't as prepared to help you as they could be.
 
What is it you want to achieve from all these posts, mrsd123? This has been asked but thus far not become any clearer than mud.
 
Honestly, horses get sick. It's a fact. I'm sorry for your situation, but you too have a duty of care to your horse, and a responsibility to other horse owners. What's done is done, the best thing you can do is have your horse remain in quarantine and prevent spread. Ask the vet and the livery yard if you can pay your debts in instalments and may I suggest you get some insurance?

You say that if you'd insured in the past you would have spent more than you have to spend now. Good. Lucky for you you're still in the black as far as I'm concerned.

PS, can you send us some rain? We most certainly don't have bogs here.

J&C
 
I would say tough titty.
Incubation period for strangles is 21 days and if the horse was mixed with the others before the strangles was diagnosed then the chances are they would have caught it anyway if they were going to get it.

If on the other hand the yard accepted a horse and was informed that it had or had been exposed to strangles, then you would have a chance in a small claims court.

It seems a bad policy to deny they have an infectious disease or to allow any owner to take their horse out of the yard.

A few years ago I had an outbreak of strangles. Considering that non of the horses had been off the place and that they had no contact with other horses it was strange they should get it as there was not, to my knowledge any in the area with it. I can only surmise that the farriers had been in contact with a carrier and brought it in as they had all been trimmed a week or so before infection showed in the youngsters.
My boss wanted to isolate but that was pointless as all had been in contact one way or another. I just got some snot from an infected horse and wiped all the 'clear' horses with it. My policy was 'if you are going to get it, get it together' and it was clear in about six weeks.
Isolation is usually to late and practically impossible in modern yard layouts.
 
mrsd what area of the country are youo in? see your yard has isolatted your horse .. responsible. he had abcesses which have now been drained .. responsible. he is still in isolation and not being hacked/socialised .. responsible. until you get clear swabs back then you and your horse are stuck! are you in wootton wawen by any chance? there is a yard there with strangles who are bveing unresponsible!!!!
 
MrsD123 said:
Why would you pay for your stable when you are barred from using it?
Would you pay for it if another horse was using it and was also paying?

mmmmm ps I am on an island, how perceptive!
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I hope MrsD that you have been able to now take some affirmative action to get your stable back etc., and have retained the uses of some legal professionals to help you move forward.

It may also be a good idea to contact the RSPCA (or equivalent) in order to help you effect a positive outcome for your horse, and the other horses on the yard you are at.

Let us know when you have a positive update.
 
MRS D - you still haven't shared with us - WHAT DO YOU WANT TO ACHIEVE FROM THIS THREAD? You're ranting on and on about the yard, getting narked at people's comments, but what was the POINT of posting in the first place? What do you want from us? Tea, sympathy, advice, irritation - you've had them all.
(Don't pm me, I'll post it on the thread if you do. Please share your purpose with everyone).
 
I've spent an hour reading through this thread & the question i still want to know the answer too, that's been asked loads of times & not answered is WHERE ARE YOU IF YOU HAVE A BOGGY FIELD?????
 
Possibly the OP is in Scotland?
I have one field thats poorly drained and it has boggy patches. We have had more rain than in England. The most recent was Friday/Saturday. There are also reports of strangles in our county.
 
Strangles tends to be more widespread than we realise. I'm still waiting for the answer to my question, nothing else to say until I know that.
 
i have had a bizarre PM from MrsD123. she is in scotland somewhere!! would put the pm up but dont know how other than to write it down and re type it out!!!!
 
frozzy said:
Possibly the OP is in Scotland?
I have one field thats poorly drained and it has boggy patches. We have had more rain than in England. The most recent was Friday/Saturday. There are also reports of strangles in our county.
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Whereabouts are the strangles cases, just out of interest? haven't heard anything about it.

we did have some rain but not enough to make the ground boggy - it barely did anything to our fields
 
OMG is all I can say. MrsD123 wont get any advice from me because a) she was outright rude b) seemed to care more about the money than the health of her horse and c) deffo troll

If this thread can be used to highlight anything may it be to illustrate how important insurance is. I echo what everyone else has said and insure for my own piece of mind but also to ensure the welfare of my horse.

Just had a butchers at the livery yard thread - joke.... (Shakes head in disbelief!!!)
 
THE END
My poor pony has suffered dreadfully, and I have suffered with him, now he is in a new yard, he is rolling in the mud like it was made for him, he has a new best [boy] friend and two grey mares to kiss and cuddle. He gets a big feed with oats , and a soft deep bed at night.
We were lucky to find a yard to take him as most would not, he had to leave the place where he contracted strangles, because I was angry that they had allowed this to happen, and at the end, in spite of having 3000 acres of land, they stuck him in a bog for six weeks on his own, he did not understand what he had done that was so wrong.
 
MRS D123 can I ask which part of Scotland you are?
Following on from your livery thread can I ask please why you are not keeping him where you proposed starting your livery business?
Just being interested really. Glad that your horse is now in a better place but are you sure he isnt still carrying strangles?
 
Don't know why you simply didn't move him to your own land - the one on which you proposed to start a livery yard on....
 
Aww god is this cr#p still going on???? MrsD123 I thought you were running a retirement livery yard?? :rolleyes:
You don't half speak a load of tripe!
 
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I'm a YO and IMO it's not on if they knew what was going on - but... are you sure the YO knew the horse had strangles and its not the owner of the horse which brought it onto the yard who has failed to tell people, paniced when other horses contracted it and then said that the YO knew??

TBH, if your horse isnt insured, i imagine it could cost you quite a bit to prove that the yard owners knowingly let the infected horse mix with the others and to take it to court.

I am not familiar with exactly what happened in your situation - but what did you do when you found out about the horse having strangles?
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I knew nothing about strangles until well after the event.
A horse was brought in to the yard from a dealer (Irish imports weekly) (who was known to have strangles), six weeks before the first positive strangles swab test, by that time four horse had been sick. I was in a different section of the yard, so I was not fully aware of the situation, had I been aware, I would have kicked up, but more importantly I would have made my horse bio-secure as I was the ONLY educated person with any knowledge of strangles AND bio-security.
I know another horse had been swab tested, but the swab test is not definative., also the original horse was sick as it arrived and I think the owner thought that having had a vetting he was in the clear!
 
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they stuck him in a bog for six weeks on his own, he did not understand what he had done that was so wrong.
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hang on you wanted to sue a yard for not putting a horse in isolation but then kick up a fuss when your infected horse was isolated?
 
My only opinion on this subject is its like me sending me son to nursery and going off my head cos he comes home with chickenpox,its happens horses kept together catch infections.A friend of mine bought a horse moved it to a new yard and it came to pass it had strangles and the liveries went way OTT to the point of assaulting this girl when she had no way of knowing the horse was carrying the infection when she bought it.
Im sorry if its not what you want to hear but horses,cats,dogs,rabbits,children,adults catch infections they get ill despite if horses are put away from others the infection will still spread.
What makes me more shocked is the fact your horse is not insured???????????????????
If you kick up a stink about this your name will be known on yards in your area and nobody will want to take you on as a livery if you kick up this much fuss about something most equine owners will deal with at some point.
 
MrsD, I think there may be two of you using your log in. One who actually makes sense and sounds as if they know what they're talking about - and the other who just rambles....
 
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