Yet another car accident

So what do you think of my sign I want to make for a car sticker .



I SLOW DOWN FOR HORSES IT COST NOTHING TO SAY THANKYOU .
BUT IT COULD COST THE LIVES OF YOUR HORSES IF YOU DON'T.

cos i am peed off with riders who don't acknowledge when riders don't say thankyou. When I am pulling my feed trailer it rattles so i always slow down. I get blank looks from the riders or totally ignored.

If I was a non horsey person I would think well stuff you I wont slow down next time .
 
Naturally said:
I'd very much like JC to take us up on the offer and do an episode where he rides a racehorse at full pelt, or maybe races an off road car against an endurance horse? That would be a good opportunity for them to throw in a mention about how to pass a horse safely. Its one programme which I think a mention would REALLY help the horse riding community. :)
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see even if something like this happened we would all feel like josie didn't die in vein. josie was part of are family and a very big part she was more human than horse..

everybody's point are right that it not just drivers that need to learn riders need to learn just as much but there is still no need for speed limits to be 60mph on country lanes they are not suitable for that.. most country lanes also have sections that do have limits so why not the rest of the roads i mean the road josie was killed goes from a 40mph to just over a mile of 60mph the down to 30mph is there really any need for that mile to be 60mph

and again most people are right its not the big flash cars that are the problem the car that killed josie was a ford fiesta

and just so people know both riders are home and apart from being very sore and stiff both ok from there traumatic experience but the driver is still in hospital and we all hope she is aloud home soon but we don't think she will be aloud any time soon as she is a 60 old lady who lives on her own
 
personally i dont hack out on the road anymore - im fortunate with the amount of land i have accessible, but i appreciate that rider do have to hack on the roads.

I would like to say that *some* riders make my blood boil - they ride along the narrow country lanes 2/3 abreast feet out of stirrups, chin straps undone. They dont get back into single file quickly and as a rider myself I always hang back until they turn off or there is a safe passing place. Yet as i pass I have very rarely been thanked.

This accident is awful and my heart goes out to everyone involved, including the clear up team, but i do feel that *some* riders dont set the best example.

I despise what has happened and I have no sympathy for the person who caused this accident, They have a lot to answer for.
 
Leviathan said:
So what do you think of my sign I want to make for a car sticker .



I SLOW DOWN FOR HORSES IT COST NOTHING TO SAY THANKYOU .
BUT IT COULD COST THE LIVES OF YOUR HORSES IF YOU DON'T.

cos i am peed off with riders who don't acknowledge when riders don't say thankyou. When I am pulling my feed trailer it rattles so i always slow down. I get blank looks from the riders or totally ignored.

If I was a non horsey person I would think well stuff you I wont slow down next time .
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by the way i love the sign

and i would like to welcome Jeremy Clarkson and thank him for taking the time to look at this post
and every body else too even if i wasn't the first one to post it this mean alot to me and everybody else who was at the accident
 
jeremyclarksonroar said:
Must say it's this what really annoys me, show's the state the country's in if people can't use basic manners, it only takes a second to lift your hand up in a gesture of thanks or even just to mumble something.

I make a point of shouting thankyou at drivers who are ignorant if they have there windows down, sometimes works too :)
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good

Are you going to comment on my other posts (where I quoted you)?
 
I have to agree there are some snooty B's around here!
Twice in the last two days the same woman had told OH to "WAIT" as he tries to overtake her on her horse.
He had plenty of room to go past slowly, and her horse and her friends horse apeared calm and happy for the truck to pass.
He said it just makes you want to speed up and drive past beeping the horn! although he knows better, and i would kill him if he ever did!
It is people like this that give the rest of us a bad name.
 
So come on then, can H+H and Top Gear work together to raise some awareness on both sides and save some lives? I'm taking a green pony out to get used to roads at the moment. Our lanes aren't too bad, and most people are sensible and slow down to pass wide, and I am high viz'd up to the eyeballs and so is the pony. I also smile and wave, even at the drivers who pretend we aren't there and carry on regardless. Some people, even on a straight bit of road with clear visibility, don't slow down and only move over just enough to pass close to us. Maybe some are being bloody-minded but I prefer to think that they are just a bit ignorant and really don't understand the danger to me, the pony, and themselves.

Come on Clarkson - if that is who you are, why not help get riders and drivers to cooperate a bit more? Top Gear is hugely influential and could make a difference. We have the people here who have lost horses and friends in car accidents, I'm sure some of them would contribute. Because we don't dent do we? We die. So do our horses, and so do some drivers.
 
Tinypony said:
So come on then, can H+H and Top Gear work together to raise some awareness on both sides and save some lives? I'm taking a green pony out to get used to roads at the moment. Our lanes aren't too bad, and most people are sensible and slow down to pass wide, and I am high viz'd up to the eyeballs and so is the pony. I also smile and wave, even at the drivers who pretend we aren't there and carry on regardless. Some people, even on a straight bit of road with clear visibility, don't slow down and only move over just enough to pass close to us. Maybe some are being bloody-minded but I prefer to think that they are just a bit ignorant and really don't understand the danger to me, the pony, and themselves.

Come on Clarkson - if that is who you are, why not help get riders and drivers to cooperate a bit more? Top Gear is hugely influential and could make a difference. We have the people here who have lost horses and friends in car accidents, I'm sure some of them would contribute. Because we don't dent do we? We die. So do our horses, and so do some drivers.
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Echo we would also say how annoying and awful it is that some riders don't acknowledge nice thoughtful motorists!! maybe both sets of people will take note and save lives too. If we make drivers aware of horses around the bend, they may also not drive beyond their ability and go off the road killing themselves or passengers
 
Tinypony said:
So come on then, can H+H and Top Gear work together to raise some awareness on both sides and save some lives? I'm taking a green pony out to get used to roads at the moment. Our lanes aren't too bad, and most people are sensible and slow down to pass wide, and I am high viz'd up to the eyeballs and so is the pony. I also smile and wave, even at the drivers who pretend we aren't there and carry on regardless. Some people, even on a straight bit of road with clear visibility, don't slow down and only move over just enough to pass close to us. Maybe some are being bloody-minded but I prefer to think that they are just a bit ignorant and really don't understand the danger to me, the pony, and themselves.

Come on Clarkson - if that is who you are, why not help get riders and drivers to cooperate a bit more? Top Gear is hugely influential and could make a difference. We have the people here who have lost horses and friends in car accidents, I'm sure some of them would contribute. Because we don't dent do we? We die. So do our horses, and so do some drivers.
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so agree with this - my friend and i were hacking our horses single file last week down a steep windy country lane with nowhere to pull over - a police car overtook us on a blind bend!
We were gobsmacked - it would be brilliant if Jeremy could use his position and popularity with drivers to help us all - and not just horse riders.
I know lots of cyclists who have had near misses through no fault of their own - a cyclist was killed just last week
Something needs to be done and quickly
 
Tinypony said:
Come on Clarkson - if that is who you are, why not help get riders and drivers to cooperate a bit more? Top Gear is hugely influential and could make a difference. We have the people here who have lost horses and friends in car accidents, I'm sure some of them would contribute. Because we don't dent do we? We die. So do our horses, and so do some drivers.
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I think the quote for the car sticker should be just what you have said. "Horses and Riders don't dent - they die. Think Horse". That's great

As per my previous post, I am more than happy for JC to use my racer (well ex-racer, but she doesn't appear to know it) for a TG challenge.
 
How utterly awful. Sadly though it seems that hearing about these accidents happens too often now. I personanlly know a lady who was in a similar accident and lost her beloved horse on a straight bit of road, in broad daylight when she was lit up like a Christmas tree.

I think the porblem is that people just aren't taught how to respect country roads. I live in an area where there are A LOT of boy racers. It's notorious for young boys to be out to sea earning £££'s. They still live with mum and dad so they have no mortgage...so their money goes on a ridiculously twattish over-spoilered 2 litre knobmobile and whatever they're paying out in insurance.

I really believe that when a young driver is taught to drive on the country roads they aren't taught to drive thinking "What could be round this corner", or even "if I take this corner too fast I could die". I've seen it SO many times. In fact several years ago I was first on the scene of an absolutely awful RTA just after it had happened. It was on a bend just near where I live, where I ride around, where I've walked with my children and where I drive most days. A young boy had smashed into another young boy on the other side one was awake the other was in a very bad way, pinned into his mangled wreck of a car covered in blood and his limbs weren't exactly where they were supposed to be.

I was desperately trying to keep him awake whilst a friend who had sprung from nowhere was insisting on trying to take him out of the car. Not a good move since he could have been impaled and would have bled to death.

Anyway turns out him and his friend were RACING each other around these roads. 1st Guy in front had gone around corner, 2nd guy was behind him, 3rd guy was coming the other way. 1st guy SAW 2nd guy crash and drove off presumably in shock as he reappeared (when I saw him and he tried pulling his mate out) behind the accident (he'd done a loop and arrived back 20 minutes later) Anyway, he lived. I was due at the prosecution as the whole thing went to court but I couldn't make it as I was suffering morning sickness.

Now it could have easily been ME coming around that corner on my horses or in my car with my children. Clearly the guys involved don't have any respect for what lies around the corner. I never ride 2 a breast because personally I don't like it. I always wear high viz, I always thank drivers and where I can see or hear cars coming I trot on and pull in. Still I've had drivers speeding past, speeding past and scraping my stirrups, beeping their horns, swearing at me, shouting abuse at me and generally being unpleasent. Mostly males, mostly young, mostly in twatmobiles (with the odd van or Audi thrown in)

I understand that country lanes and speed limits are there to be "enjoyed by all" but when this all this speed malarky came about there were very few cars with v12 engines on the roads and more people who actually used the country lanes freely on foot/horseback/bike. Things have changed now, powerful fast cars seem to be freely available to all despite ridiculous insurance premiums. Cars are weapons in the wrong hands, even a 1.2 litre French thing can do a bit of damage driven by a fool. I really do believe there's not enough emphasis on HOW TO DRIVE IN THE COUNTRY when learning to drive, and this is where it needs to come from to start with.

Anyway I agree attention needs to be brought to this. I'm currently teaching my kids to ride and am fortunate that (depending on the time of year) I am able to ride through our 500 acres of farmland, and encourage my horse owning neighbours to do the same. But really we shouldn't be made to feel like we're not welcome on the roads. I also do believe that it should be made a legal requirement for riders to wear high viz.

I think if Top Gear ever were to do something on horses on the road then I hope it would be of visual impact showing just exactly what happens when you hit 3/4 a ton of animal on a bend at various speeds. Drivers NEED to think what COULD be round the next corner. But they don't.

I say this as a horse rider who doesn't ride like to ride 2 a breast and always thanks even the twattish of drivers and the driver of a Jaguar XFR who would never think of driving at a nutty speed on a country road because I KNOW what could be round the corner.
 
Leviathan said:
So what do you think of my sign I want to make for a car sticker .



I SLOW DOWN FOR HORSES IT COST NOTHING TO SAY THANKYOU .
BUT IT COULD COST THE LIVES OF YOUR HORSES IF YOU DON'T.

cos i am peed off with riders who don't acknowledge when riders don't say thankyou. When I am pulling my feed trailer it rattles so i always slow down. I get blank looks from the riders or totally ignored.

If I was a non horsey person I would think well stuff you I wont slow down next time .
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Too long and provocative, prefer the horses and riders don't dent one. I try to say thankyou as much as I can - but sometimes, when my horse is swinging her arse out, trying to get on the curb or near to rearing or turning on an axis, esp say with a motorbike/tractor in addition coming towards me as well as a noisy trailer behind, thanking the driver is the last thing on my mind. Controlling my horse and making us all safe is the first - and I need two hands for that. I do try and nod if my hands are too busy, obviously or I'll raise a hand when the danger has passed and they can see me in their wing mirror, but sometimes my concentration is rightly where it should be.
 
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Holly Hocks said:
I think the quote for the car sticker should be just what you have said. "Horses and Riders don't dent - they die. Think Horse". That's great

As per my previous post, I am more than happy for JC to use my racer (well ex-racer, but she doesn't appear to know it) for a TG challenge.
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If you're already with a horse I think "We Don't Dent We Die" would be enough really. We are trying to say something that a car driver can read really quickly, so should avoid too many words. Also, I think the message is stark and a bit shocking. Front and back of the tabard.

Maybe with the Top Gear logo visible at the bottom...

Just to add, I did look into getting tabards made up with that slogan a while back but didn't have the funds. So if anyone wants to go ahead, feel free. But it would be really, really good if we could collaborate with Top Gear and do some sort of joint venture... No pressure Clarkson!
 
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Tinypony said:
If you're already with a horse I think "We Don't Dent We Die" would be enough really. We are trying to say something that a car driver can read really quickly, so should avoid too many words. Also, I think the message is stark and a bit shocking. Front and back of the tabard.

Maybe with the Top Gear logo visible at the bottom...

Just to add, I did look into getting tabards made up with that slogan a while back but didn't have the funds. So if anyone wants to go ahead, feel free. But it would be really, really good if we could collaborate with Top Gear and do some sort of joint venture... No pressure Clarkson!
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Yes TP,that's great for a tabard. I think there is a business near me that does tabards with slogans to your requirements. If i get chance tomorrow I'll go in and find out how much they would cost. I was thinking more of a car sticker with the other slogan.
 
We have boy racers on the straight behind the house and when we are out lamping its almost too tempting to flash the beam right into their faces to stop them swinging their corsas too close to the car. I have on occasion, coming home from sussex after a four hour drive (on a good day) at about 12 midnight and having had the dicks basically in the back seats with me have actually stopped the car in the middle of the road and clunked the car into reverse gear until they move back, and then driven at five miles an hour in the middle of the road until they feckoff at a junction.

Even coming home from the inbetweeners movie on wednesday we got hounded by some top spec beemers and an alfa. and we were doing around 70. (midnight on national limit roads)
 
I think Richard Hammond would be the one to approach, as I believe he rides himself....?

JC loathes and detests being behind horse boxes, so I doubt he would be remotely interested in such a PR exercise...
 
Maybe he should have stayed away from this forum then. (If the new poster is indeed him!). No point doing anything with TG unless he was behind it, he'd piss-take surely if he wasn't in agreement?
 
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