YO's rant. It ain't broke, why should I fix it?

Enfys said:
and Spudlet, LMAO:D

I do that a lot! Sometimes there can be a dozen horses down at the same time and it does look rather suspect;)

These were in an adjoining paddock at the same time...:)

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:) Re the stupid purple halter, that keeps mysteriously 'falling off' ...;)
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I WANT I WANT I WANT the little palamino PLEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!!
 
What cracking pictures, they look like a happy settled wee herd, cant understand why she wants her horse out if it ??? youre managing your pasture as you see fit, and she should be glad you do, as many dont. By all means if she gives good rationale behind the moving the horse, but not just on a whim, and not if its detrimental to his psychological and social development as youre the one who'd end up dealing with the unhappy beastie
 
JenJ said:
You could at least have given them somewhere clean to lie down - the nearest one's got all muddy now! :rolleyes:
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I know:( I can actually blame it on her though, she likes to stand under the hose pipe for a shower, then, when she's thoroughly soaked she rolls. They like to lie in that ditchy bit as well, it is pretty much body shaped in some sections.
 
Enfys said:
and Spudlet, LMAO:D

I do that a lot! Sometimes there can be a dozen horses down at the same time and it does look rather suspect;)

These were in an adjoining paddock at the same time...:)

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:) Re the stupid purple halter, that keeps mysteriously 'falling off' ...;)
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You been slipping sedalin in the breakfasts Enfys???:D:D:D
 
I love these pictures! Personally, if she keeps arguing and you give a rat's arse about her reasons ask her to write them down for you so she cannot fudge the issues or make reference to a conversation you cannot remember having. Write your reasons down and if she cannot see they make sense, perhaps she should look for somewhere that will pander to her every whim as she fusses and makes life complicated for her and miserable for her horse. She doesn't know how lucky she is. There is not meant to be any 24/7 all year turnout at my yard but my YO has made an exception for my two boys and another livery so they have their own little herd going. I could kiss the ground that woman walks on!
 
I always find it both amusing and worrying to see them flat out on the ground like that. For a prey animal that uses flight as a defense mechanism they would be lunch in five seconds flat if a monster turned up to eat them!
 
OP I am totally with you on your post, however...as a YO posting this on the internet is horribly unprofessional and could do you damage! Surely this is the kind of rubbish YOs get day in, day out, and know how to deal with?
 
bakedbean said:
i have just said goodbye to 2 liveries myself.
neither could get their heads round my "herd" situation.

Their reason for leaving.....their horses were too lively since moving here!! :confused:

Too socialised, more like.
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That said, BB, the last herd situation I kept a horse in has ended up with two broken legs and three horses shot in 12 months... I can see why it might put people off!
 
skewby said:
OP I am totally with you on your post, however...as a YO posting this on the internet is horribly unprofessional and could do you damage! Surely this is the kind of rubbish YOs get day in, day out, and know how to deal with?
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Enfys lives rather a long way away form 95% of the members of this forum so it is highly unlikely that any of her liveries would know about this site let alone be on it!;)
 
pardalis said:
I always find it both amusing and worrying to see them flat out on the ground like that. For a prey animal that uses flight as a defense mechanism they would be lunch in five seconds flat if a monster turned up to eat them!
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You have a point, photos rarely tell the whole story though do they? What the viewer doesn't see is the half dozen others still upright. It didn't make such a good picture though;) When there is a foal in the herd I never, ever, see them all down together, and the mare certainly never lies down at the same time as the foal, there is always one or two up and on guard. We don't have monsters, we do have coyotes, although the dogs sort them out before they get near to the horses.
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bakedbean said:
All Geldings S...a bit like a village hall full of Dale Wintons at a Whist Drive

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See, we had a mixed herd which included a collection of extremely hormonal mares and a pair of very posessive geldings.

Neither gelding fancied the mare that fancied them, so the mares were always kicking each other, the geldings were always kicking each other, 2 mares were so dangerous if they weren't kicking each other they were kicking humans...

And in the middle of this was Milo, who may have been 15hh aged 2, but was beaten up by everyone - including the herd shetland (who used to barrel roll at Milo's legs, taking him out like a bowling ball would pins, and normally biting a couple of legs on the way!)
 
They all look so miserable... I demand you send them all over here right now ;)

Seriously though, i'd love to have a YO who is as nice as you seem to be :)

Stupid woman should like it or lump it and if it bothers her that much she should do one imo :p :D
 
So lovely to see that there are still people that believe in horses running as a herd. Mine all do - at one time I had seven of my own - they had a pecking order and there was fisti cuffs when a knew one was introduced but when they have 5 acres to hoon around in the new one rarely got cornered.

I hate seeing horses in on their own - they need each other to be horses.

Your livery needs to accept that as owner of the yard you make the decisions as to where her horse lives. If he is not suffering any harm where he is then there he stays.

If she doesn't like it then she has two options - either lump it or move.

My ginga filly would be so pleased to meet another ginga who has the misfortune to be attached to a purple head collar.
 
My boy lives in a herd of mares and geldings and they are all so so happy - the hacking is not ideal (main roads to conquer to get anywhere) but when i looked at other yards - just no.
Paired turnouts, no turnout in winter - just no
Im a very nervy novice owner but i would never move my boy - hes so so happy in his herd, all year turnout - we are gettign instructors to make sure hes ok on the roads
Put your horses first - herd animals so let them live in a herd and be happy
 
Also - yes ima paying customer but i so appreciate my boy has a good home at a good yard which i couldnt provide
I remember i asked my yo if said horse could be kept on old field when others moved (laminitus risk) he said not because he needed to sort field out -
No problem, i asked, was a no with good reason so i muzzled

IMO these might be yur paying customers but they should appreciate its your home, your land, your ways and their horses are happy xxx
 
Most of mine live in small herds too and I have never seen any of them try to kick each other. Sure, they gallop up and down, do handbrake turns and play dead like yours. They even socialise over the fence with the other herds. :rolleyes: Sounds like your livery needs to further her knowledge on equine behaviour. It would be such as shame if she moved her horse because they all look so happy, even in death! :eek:
 
skewby said:
OP I am totally with you on your post, however...as a YO posting this on the internet is horribly unprofessional and could do you damage! Surely this is the kind of rubbish YOs get day in, day out, and know how to deal with?
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I know how to deal with it, the answer is "No, sorry" for the reasons listed in my original post which are eminently reasonable to my mind. He can go in a 2 acre paddock if she wants, but he'll have to share with the 2 new horses coming tomorrow, and I wouldn't be happy just chucking them all in together.

Or, any Boarder can buy T posts @ $7 each, 200m roll/s of hot wire @ $40, insulators @ $15 a 25 pack, toppers another $15 per pack, a fence energiser ($250 for a solar one) and fence off a section of a field (my choice of field and size) if they liked, I don't mind if they do that, but I hadn't planned on doing it so I am not shelling out for it.

Unprofessional, no doubt. Do me damage? Unlikely, I haven't named the person, shown a photo of the horse concerned, or anything else. It certainly won't affect any possible custom I could garner from members of HHO.
 
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