100 % Waterproof no fill LW rug.... do they actually exist

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I have tried a few LW no fill rugs - brandless / Masta/ Rhinegold.
I splashed out a bit on the Masta which I think was about £50.00 and trialed it yesterday in the rain and my horse was wet through.

I'm looking for something 0g fill that is 100% water proof even if worn is 8 hours of rain. Does this actually exist or are they all just 'shower proof'

Thanks
 
You need a 1200 denier for it to be nearer to 100% a 600 is never going to be waterproof and I wonder why they even bother making them, they certainly should not sell them as waterproof. I have a few old 1200 Amigo rugs and they have been fine even in seriously heavy rain but not sure they are as good as they used to be, you will probably need to spend a bit more than £50 to get a good quality waterproof rug.
 
ps - I have read good things about Rhino rugs but obviously they are super expensive ... if its waterproof, rip proof and well made that It will last years then I can justify the spend but it they are no better than the other mid priced brands hmmmmm!
 
My Horseware Rhino no fill rugs are completely waterproof even in torrential rain. Bailey tested his two weeks ago at an overnight event and was completely dry underneath.

He did have a full neck on as well or as Shay says water will run down the chest.
 
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I'm not sure anything is 100% waterproof - especially as water runs down the body from the neck piece. But I would say that all my no fill rugs are as waterproof as is reasonable. (I have a mix of premier equine and Amigo's.) The most waterproof I ever had was an Axiom - but they don't seem to make them now. In terms of a dry horse underneath the full neck does better than the standard - but that is just because there is less capacity for rain to run down the exposed neck and on to the body. But back and quarters are dry. I would not expect anything else.

I have to say £50 for a rug is somewhat on the cheap side. Perhaps opt for a better quality rug?
 
My PE 0 gram are the best no fill we have .I love the lightness of the amigos but they are simple not waterproof enough .
 
o no! that means about 4 of my rugs are going to be useless! :O that is so cheeky to sell them as waterproof! I couldn't believe how wet he was with is so called waterproof rain sheet on! better than without but honestly shocking!
Does proofing new 600denier rugs help or is it a waist of time/ money?
I have two 1200 with 50g and 100g lining which it has been to warm to try just yet.

be positive said:
You need a 1200 denier for it to be nearer to 100% a 600 is never going to be waterproof and I wonder why they even bother making them, they certainly should not sell them as waterproof. I have a few old 1200 Amigo rugs and they have been fine even in seriously heavy rain but not sure they are as good as they used to be, you will probably need to spend a bit more than £50 to get a good quality waterproof rug.
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lol my other LW's where £15- £25 new .... o dear ! I think I need a rethink on trying to skimp!
Shay said:
I'm not sure anything is 100% waterproof - especially as water runs down the body from the neck piece. But I would say that all my no fill rugs are as waterproof as is reasonable. (I have a mix of premier equine and Amigo's.) The most waterproof I ever had was an Axiom - but they don't seem to make them now. In terms of a dry horse underneath the full neck does better than the standard - but that is just because there is less capacity for rain to run down the exposed neck and on to the body. But back and quarters are dry. I would not expect anything else.

I have to say £50 for a rug is somewhat on the cheap side. Perhaps opt for a better quality rug?
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You could try re proofing them with Graingers Fabsil Gold. Use the liquid and paint it on rather than the aerosol, a litre is about £14. It would be worth a go instead of forking out for a new expensive rug and if it doesn't work you have only spent £14. I used it on an Amigo heavyweight and the water beads off but make sure the rug is clean and dry before you put it on.
 
You could try re-proofing - but the denier count specifies how many threads are in a 1cm square. Regardless of what stuff you put over the top. 600 threads per square cm is always going to have more gaps for water to get through than 1200. The 1800 you get with PE is even better.

If you can afford it I would donate the lot you have to a horse sanctuary and re-invest in some higher quality rugs. Sorry.
 
I've got Shires Tempests - which so far have been excellent. I don't think any no fill rug is completely waterproof in a proper downpour, but I haven't had any leaking yet. Not bad at all, especially as they're only £35
 
Tiddlypom said:
0g fill Rambo turnout with leg arches will do the job, and will keep on doing it for years and years. Can add liners too, so it can be an all seasons rug.

You won't get one for £50 though, and they hold their value well s/h.
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yep, my horses have 0g Rambos and they are absolutely watertight. Both were bought second hand and are completely reliable. I also never get them professionally washed, I think this can affect the waterproof properties over time.
 
Auslander said:
I've got Shires Tempests - which so far have been excellent. I don't think any no fill rug is completely waterproof in a proper downpour, but I haven't had any leaking yet. Not bad at all, especially as they're only £35
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My shires were binned within a month .
 
My Horseware Rhino lightweight is waterproof. It was bought to replace a Horseware Amigo lightweight rug which isn't waterproof.
 
My Shires Tempest is four years old and still pretty good, although does benefit from reproofing every other year. Friend's Mio is brilliant and being reproofed for the first time this year at about five years old.
 
so if you had a go to brand for top quality long lasting rugs who would it be?
I have just had a browse on the PE sight and they seem to do a 4 in one Titan rug, 1680denier
100G rug plus options Possible weight (fill) creations; 100g, 200g, 300g and 450g.

so this could be a rug for everything :O I guess I can even use the liners as stable rugs :S?

its sounds all singing and all dancing but im struggling to stay on my seat with the £280 price tag :O
 
Another vote for the Rhino rug. The cost made me wince but my Rhino Plus has proved to be 100% waterproof and Young Cob-proof! The outer is very tough and the waterproof layer is under that (I had a detailed explanation of how it is constructed when I bought the rug!). I add a 100g or 200g liner in the winter so it is used through a lot of the year. The rug is light enough to go in my washing machine so it has been through with a gentle spin at the end and come out looking good. I threw away an old Rambo rug last year after 10 winters of hard use so they are worth the money in the long run though the initial cost is hard to bear!
 
Horsekaren said:
so if you had a go to brand for top quality long lasting rugs who would it be?
I have just had a browse on the PE sight and they seem to do a 4 in one Titan rug, 1680denier
100G rug plus options Possible weight (fill) creations; 100g, 200g, 300g and 450g.

so this could be a rug for everything :O I guess I can even use the liners as stable rugs :S?

its sounds all singing and all dancing but im struggling to stay on my seat with the £280 price tag :O
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One of my liveries has this set and I hate it. The 100g outer is VERY heavy even when dry and is more like a medium weight in terms of warmth. Yes, it's well made but the horse has never even used the liners and thicker neck rug that comes with it. Even when trace clipped he only needed the 100g outer. If you go for PE (and I wouldn't recommend them), at least make sure the outer is a no fill or you will never get the use of the rest of the set. Only the thinnest skinned, fully clipped horse that shivers in a warm shower would benefit from that set.
 
I would go for Rambo over PE for turnouts. I do like PE fly rugs however.

My mare's Rambo Duo (100g outer with 100g liner and a 300g liner) is still going strong. I bought the mare in 2006 and it was one of the first rugs that I bought for her. I believe that the Rambo Supreme is available in no fill and has all the fittings for the liners.

The only issue I have with the Duo is that I wish it had the option for leg straps, so in high winds I put a different rug on her with leg straps.

Mine live out and it really does pay to buy quality, even if it's second hand. I have found some bargains over the years of 'tried on but didn't fit' so practically new, second hand rugs. You might need to go up a size for Horseware rugs, depending on whether the rugs you currently use are small fitting or generous in size.
 
Thanks for that review :) I guess my cob wouldn't need all of the liners ect in that set... I think he would need a max 250 g fill for really 0degree cold days.

I have seen the do a 50G Titan rug with detachable neck for £140.00
Rhino are a similar price - I think this is reasonable if I can use them most of the year and change the liners :)

Rambo in comparison is about twice the price" eeek! are the really worth it?





Wagtail said:
One of my liveries has this set and I hate it. The 100g outer is VERY heavy even when dry and is more like a medium weight in terms of warmth. Yes, it's well made but the horse has never even used the liners and thicker neck rug that comes with it. Even when trace clipped he only needed the 100g outer. If you go for PE (and I wouldn't recommend them), at least make sure the outer is a no fill or you will never get the use of the rest of the set. Only the thinnest skinned, fully clipped horse that shivers in a warm shower would benefit from that set.
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Horsekaren said:
Thanks for that review :) I guess my cob wouldn't need all of the liners ect in that set... I think he would need a max 250 g fill for really 0degree cold days.

I have seen the do a 50G Titan rug with detachable neck for £140.00
Rhino are a similar price - I think this is reasonable if I can use them most of the year and change the liners :)

Rambo in comparison is about twice the price" eeek! are the really worth it?
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If you are looking for good quality 1200 denier rugs at a reasonable price then I really rate Ruggles. I have the 50g and 100g fill ones. The 100g one is a year old now and not a single mark on it and is totally waterproof. I haven't used the 50g one yet. Probably will tonight as it will be colder. Unfortunately I don't have one of their no fill ones but will be buying one once my current one (1200 Derby House) gives up.
 
I have got a two Ruggles that I am yet to use :D 50g and 100g.
I was tempted to put the50g on yesterday but it was a little to warm in the day so I thought my rain sheet would be better ... I am really excited to try the Ruggles ones, I have high hopes *fingers crossed*
I need to rethink my no fill and middle weight / heavy weight rugs as these are 600D cheap as chips ones so I'm thinking if I try and find a great quality no fill rug with liners to make in a 2 / 3 in one if you like :P and seeing my poor boy soaked yesterday made me think what im buying is cheap for a reason!



Wagtail said:
If you are looking for good quality 1200 denier rugs at a reasonable price then I really rate Ruggles. I have the 50g and 100g fill ones. The 100g one is a year old now and not a single mark on it and is totally waterproof. I haven't used the 50g one yet. Probably will tonight as it will be colder. Unfortunately I don't have one of their no fill ones but will be buying one once my current one (1200 Derby House) gives up.
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