Aintree Grand National

I think you all need to be a tad more existential about this - once the horses are dead, then they are gone, no pain, nothing. A quick death for an animal is hardly such a bad thing.

And there you go, Clare Balding confirmed who died and expressed her sadness.. as always happens if you wait for 10 minutes..!
 
Yeah i thought Ornais (didn't know who it was) went instantly, as he bounced up from his fall he looked to me like he'd gone already. So sad, but they go happy and quicker than a lot of horses get to.
 
First time it has been so obvious on the TV that it happens. Very considerately handled by Clare Balding and credit for them actually announcing it

RIP horses. Thoughts with all those connected :(
 
JDChaser said:
They probably don't know yet for certain who is dead, who is injured... - think about it as well, the connections needs to know if their horse is injured of dead and trainers and owners and lads will be busy right now sorting out horses and unable to comment. What's the huge rush? Like it's some cover up? They always report what they know about injuries and death, BBC and C4.

I think i'm remembering why I always avoid horse racing threads on this website, the ignorance is so astounding. Why type with such certainty about things you know nothing about, is my question..
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Even if they cannot confirm who it was [though I would put money on that they know exactly who it is more than half an hour after the race finishes], there is no need to completely ignore it.

Glad CB has now clarified who died - RIP Ornais and Dooney's Gate :(
 
Honestly, don't be so ridiculous.

They can't tell us who died until they know FOR SURE who died - they have to check before they can tell us. Clare always gets that job, they always tell you fatalities after the re-run. Of course they were going to mention it, but it isn't at the forefront of things. It's very sad and they acknowledge it, but they dont want to revel in it by talking about it too much. Clare told us respectfully.

This can happen in any other race and does happen, all those spouting about what a cruel race it is - it happens at other times, not just here.

People get it in their heads that this is a cruel race and I sometimes think they revel in it when they hear a horse has died, then it confirms to them that it is a cruel race and all us who enjoy it and love racing are evil.

Oh look, they're still talking about it, happy now :rolleyes:

We're not all heartless horse killers.
 
xspiralx said:
Even if they cannot confirm who it was [though I would put money on that they know exactly who it is more than half an hour after the race finishes], there is no need to completely ignore it.

Glad CB has now clarified who died - RIP Ornais and Dooney's Gate :(
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I agree with this.
 
Rip Ornais and Dooney's Gate. Very sad but hopefully it was quick.

The interview with Sam Waley-Cohen just now, did rather take my mind off it though - no shirt....phwoar...
 
JoG said:
First time it has been so obvious on the TV that it happens. Very considerately handled by Clare Balding and credit for them actually announcing it

RIP horses. Thoughts with all those connected :(
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TBH its all very commending the BBC for acknowledging the fatalities but i dont think they could really have hidden from is as thousands of people say the horrid sight of the green covers....
 
Ignition-if its quick then yes its best. One had a broken leg, now I'm no vet but I'm sure that it doesn't kill them instantly....

I think most people do accept that horses do die racing, they die standing in the field. What a few of us are 'upset' about is that these two brave and beautiful creatures were referred to as 'obstacles'. As I said Beechers is an obstacle, a death is a tragedy.
 
I thought they handled it well, as said they do have to be sure of their facts. It did look as if Ornais died instantly, and Dooneys gate would have been despatched very speedily. Thoughts to all their connections.

ETS. Adrenalin would have probably stopped any pain from the broken leg, 2 of our vets are amongst the large vet presence at Aintree, the horse would have been pts very quickly.
 
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RIP boys.

Thanks JDChaser for completely spoiling my idea that racing people were decent people. I was actually pro racing (although it's not for me) but your posts are making me wonder about the mentality of racing folk.

We're concerned. The Beeb has always skirted fallers (C4 is better). This doesn't make us bunny hugging morons.

I in no way support Animal Aid - but if people like you would let people like me deal with feelings about dead horses being left on the track and then being described as "obsticles" then perhaps I wouldn't need to rely on them for information...

Pfft. You're lucky I know more racing folk than just you, but I'd step away from the racing threads if this is how you treat people. Grade A d***...
 
Ummm Teagreen nobody said it was a cruel race - we have all just watched it! Of course they knew which horses were down, it's not difficult for them to find out, being on course.
RIP brave horses.
 
Serenity087 said:
RIP boys.

Thanks JDChaser for completely spoiling my idea that racing people were decent people. I was actually pro racing (although it's not for me) but your posts are making me wonder about the mentality of racing folk.

We're concerned. The Beeb has always skirted fallers (C4 is better). This doesn't make us bunny hugging morons.

I in no way support Animal Aid - but if people like you would let people like me deal with feelings about dead horses being left on the track and then being described as "obsticles" then perhaps I wouldn't need to rely on them for information...

Pfft. You're lucky I know more racing folk than just you, but I'd step away from the racing threads if this is how you treat people. Grade A d***...
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This, though i have not met any nice people in racing for such a long time, just bullish ignorant people who pride their own egos over the horse flesh they ride....
 
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