All this talk of weight.....

Spring Feather said:
I quite liked the humourous posts :o

Everyone has different ideas on what weight should be the maximum for each horse so all I'll say is if they were my horses the max I'd have on them would be, bay horse, 9 and a half stone. The cremello, 10 and a half stone. I always under weight horses but I'm sure others aren't as stringent as me.
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Did you see the bay is 16.3!? Long in the back yes, but you wouldn't let me ride him!? This is me an a more solid 16.2 and I often looked small

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If you can get up there then you wont be too heavy

seriously a shire cross tb should be up to about 15-16 stone but the bigger they are the less weight in my experience they can carry as those long legs and long backs will suffer more so my guess would be no more than 14 stone including tack from that picture. Maybe a fraction more.
Lovely horses by the way but what a horse can carry has a lot of nonsense spoken about it a short compact horse or pony with a lot of bone will carry far more than a long weedy horse even if you need a step ladder to get on. Especially as is often the case the long weedy ones have little good bone and are grown too fast and ridden too young
Yes that is a generalisation and may not be supported but it has been the case in a lot of horses in my experience. Ponies on the other hand do tend to manage to avoid the backing a two thing in the main and are often ridden by tiny people if they do fall foul of it
I would say no one over 6 stone should sit on a 15.2 3 or under if someone must sit on it
After eight I would say most could carry most average or slightly over average people if they havent been ruined too early
 
Kallibear said:
17.1 with good confo: he'd easily take 14st competent rider hunting all day. He's happily carry 16st too but I wouldn't want that on him for fast or longer work.
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Agree! He's a semi -retired advanced dressage horse, so doesn't do fast or long work, and he happily carries 15 stone

windand rain said:
If you can get up there then you wont be too heavy

seriously a shire cross tb should be up to about 15-16 stone but the bigger they are the less weight in my experience they can carry as those long legs and long backs will suffer more so my guess would be no more than 14 stone including tack from that picture. Maybe a fraction more.
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Luckily he has an exceptionally short back (wears a 6"6 rug), and stumpy legs for a big horse!!
 
Kallibear said:
Did you see the bay is 16.3!? Long in the back yes, but you wouldn't let me ride him!?
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Nope I'm sorry I wouldn't. Not so much that you are a heavy rider (you're not) but more because the first horse is weak looking and I wouldn't put anyone over 9 and a half stone on it at this moment in time. Weak neck, long bodied. If it were more muscled and fit then I would up the weight allowable. As I say, it's what I would do if they were my horses, they aren't, so it's up to the owners to decide what they deem acceptable.
 
What about Izzy - 15.1 cob. He wasn't particularly muscled up here as he had some problems with his feet and neck so we didn't school for 7 months.

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For goodness sake, people just need to use their common sense it's not blimin rocket science is it. I wouldn't put my 15st 6ft1 husband on my lightweight 16.1hh TB. It is obvious just looking at the pair of them that they wouldn't fit. A 17hh big boned hunter though. Fine.

If your big, get a big horse. Simples. You wouldn't wear small clothes or small shoes if they didn't fit, so why a horse.

If horse and rider look matched, they usually are. Theres no need to go into how many stones and pounds people weigh that is just silly.
 
Auslander said:
Ok - I'll play.

17.1hh, Shire/TB cross

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This horse has lovely strong conformation, which is often not the case with horses that are over 17hh. This particular horse could easily cope with 16-18 stone I would think for something such as dressage, but cross country, hunting etc, then 15 stone would be the most I would want on him.
 
:cool: Scared to post..... The lady I took lessons from when I was a lass always said... Max of 1 stone to each HH - and she wouldn't allow anyone over 17 1/2 stone to ride any of them.

Just saying....
 
-Sj- said:
:cool: Scared to post..... The lady I took lessons from when I was a lass always said... Max of 1 stone to each HH - and she wouldn't allow anyone over 17 1/2 stone to ride any of them.

Just saying....
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Ah yes, the stone to a hand nonsense. If that is true then I can ride a ten hand section A. :)
 
Wagtail said:
This horse has lovely strong conformation, which is often not the case with horses that are over 17hh. This particular horse could easily cope with 16-18 stone I would think for something such as dressage, but cross country, hunting etc, then 15 stone would be the most I would want on him.
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He's a freak of nature! I absolutely agree with you that a lot of big horses are weak, and able to carry less weight than their more compact cousins. I'm no lightweight, but he has no trouble busting the odd move when his feet hit grass! He's immensely powerful, with a great ability to sit (which sadly has done his suspensories no favours) and he really doesn't notice I'm up there! He's a funny old stick - decides whether he wants someone on him the moment they put a foot in the stirrup (sacked from his previous dressage schoolmaster job for broncing til people fell off!), so I have no doubt that he would get rid of me if he wasn't happy!
 
Wagtail said:
I would not want more than 10 stone on her due to her age. If she were ten then I would say 11 - 12 stone max.
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Interesting I agree with you and weighed myself after Christmas to find I was nearly 11 stone :eek:! Horrified as I'm only 5'2" ish, so healthy eating untill I'm back under 10 again. It's scary how the weight can creep up!

She has been carrying me fine, no staggering or buckling at the knees ;):D, she hasn't been in much more than light work over winter though so I don't think I've done too much damage...But it was a wake up call and she is a great motivator as she deserves for me not to be too taxing for her :o.

Seems my thinking was about right as I know she could carry up to 11ish, and even though she is in good shape, I think 10 would be a good limit from now on:).
To be honest I thought you were going to say less so I'm relieved!
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I always find these threads quite amusing - for example saying no more than 14st on a 16.3hh ISH.

Racing thoroughbreds are expected to carry up to and over 11 1/2st to go round the Grand National. Many top level male SJers and Eventers weigh over 12st, and ride sport horses that are as small as 15.3/16hh - and they are galloping for miles or jumping courses of 5ft+ - very strenuous work. Nobody would look at those horses and think their riders were too heavy.

So no more than 14st on a well built 16.3hh horse that may only be doing a bit of low level RC stuff?

Weight is well hidden on a taller person and I think people sometimes have a skewed perception of what 14st or so actually looks like for a 6ft+ person.
 
flump said:
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16.3 id x tb.9 years old.
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Although tall, is still on the fine side, id say 13-14st depending on the rider.

LollyDolly said:
15hh Irish X, 6 year old.

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Nice confo and looks strong, I'd say probably can carry more than we think!
Easily the same as above imo, 13stone ish.

CobsGalore said:
14.2 Heavyweight Cob :o

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Maybe 14 stone or so :)


Auslander said:
Ok - I'll play.

17.1hh, Shire/TB cross

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Wagtail said:
This horse has lovely strong conformation, which is often not the case with horses that are over 17hh. This particular horse could easily cope with 16-18 stone I would think for something such as dressage, but cross country, hunting etc, then 15 stone would be the most I would want on him.
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Exactly what wagtail said :)

AlexHyde said:
What would you guys say Doodle can carry:
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She is 14.3 Arab x and is 20 this year, sorry not got any proper confo pics.
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Wagtail said:
I would not want more than 10 stone on her due to her age. If she were ten then I would say 11 - 12 stone max.
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Agreeing again :o

tiga71 said:
What about Izzy - 15.1 cob. He wasn't particularly muscled up here as he had some problems with his feet and neck so we didn't school for 7 months.

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He looks like he could carry a bit of weight, but not while under muscled or with the problems. Maybe around 11-12 stone for now, with the potential to be higher in the future :)




risky business said:
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14.1 welsh D, 12 years old.
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12 stone sounds about right :)
 
Can I play too :-)

How much do you think Sally should carry, 14.1 11yr Haffie?
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and what do you think of me on her, do you think I am within your ideal weight for riding her (dont worry I shant be offended at any suggestions of my weight ;) )
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Casey76 said:
OK, I'll play ;)

14.3hh cob-type, rising 19

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Looks nice compact and strong. Easily 13stone, and probably more when younger in my humble opinion ;)
patchwork puzzle said:
Can I play too :-)

How much do you think Sally should carry, 14.1 11yr Haffie?
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and what do you think of me on her, do you think I am within your ideal weight for riding her (dont worry I shant be offended at any suggestions of my weight ;) )
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She looks stonger in the bottom pic, top one makes her legs look very long! :eek:

Probably she could carry around 12 stone ( although hard to tell with the pic lol), and you look perfect on her :)
 
Wagtail said:
13 stone max (when fit and his feet and neck are okay.
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His feet and neck are all good now and he is back in full work and fighting fit. Vet just gave him final check and think he is now well muscled, perfect weight and good fitness so it is all good. (almost 12 months after the initial problem)

He has carried me at 13 stone but I am now 10.5 stone and won't be going up to that weight again!

He didn't have a problem carrying me at 13 stone, but it must be easier for him now.
 
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