Am I an idiot?

[CanteringCarrot]

She's super energetic this morning and gobbled down her boiled turkey, rice, and yogurt breakfast. Syringed some water and electrolytes into her.

She's not big on drinking on her own, but has a good appetite, is rather spunky, and her only symptom is still the diarrhea, so we'll see what the test says.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Hopefully just a bit of new environment stress!!

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

I was told (probably on here) that you should take water from the breeder’s house then transition to your water. My two had diarrhoea when on kibble which resolved immediately with raw, but I’m not suggesting swapping her any time soon. Maybe for the future.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Really good point CT. Mine drink bottled water when we're travelling for the same reason.

If it was parvo the pup would be extremely listless, they go downhill really quickly.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Really good point CT. Mine drink bottled water when we're travelling for the same reason.

If it was parvo the pup would be extremely listless, they go downhill really quickly.

Parvo wipes them so hopefully the pup being lively is a good sign.

 

[Moobli]

Oh no! Not the start you wanted. I hope it’s not the dreaded Parvo and pup will be right as rain very quickly.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

So she's happily drinking water on her own now. Did so twice. Peeing regularly.

She's been lively, but now sleeping a lot this afternoon, but I think that's normal for her to play, sleep, play, sleep, and we practiced some come and sit, which she did well with. She seems normal, but hasn't pooped in quite awhile, so no idea what the status is there. Still happily eating small meals of boiled turkey, rice, and yogurt. I think her system might be trying to recover a bit, and hopefully when a poop does come, it's normal.

I would think with Parvo she'd be getting worse or would have more symptoms (vomit, less appetite, not as alert). It's possible she could just have stress from worming, vaccines, her siblings leaving (left the day before we got her), and then being in a new home.

Tomorrow she's scheduled for a Parvo test, giardia, and a general poop analysis. Breeder did say these pups were pretty wormy.

One vet wanted to admit her immediately, the other 2 said observe, feed the diet we are feeding, and come in if she declines, otherwise just bring her in for tests tomorrow (soonest availability). So that's what we're doing.

Our other dog is at the neighbors, so we haven't introduced them yet. She spent the night there because we weren't sure what puppy has and if we'd have to be off to hospital with her. She's used to the neighbors (around the corner from us) and likes her occasional doggy slumber parties, so she's quite happily romping around with her mates without the slightest clue of what awaits her at home.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

So she's happily drinking water on her own now. Did so twice. Peeing regularly.

She's been lively, but now sleeping a lot this afternoon, but I think that's normal for her to play, sleep, play, sleep, and we practiced some come and sit, which she did well with. She seems normal, but hasn't pooped in quite awhile, so no idea what the status is there. Still happily eating small meals of boiled turkey, rice, and yogurt. I think her system might be trying to recover a bit, and hopefully when a poop does come, it's normal.

I would think with Parvo she'd be getting worse or would have more symptoms (vomit, less appetite, not as alert). It's possible she could just have stress from worming, vaccines, her siblings leaving (left the day before we got her), and then being in a new home.

Tomorrow she's scheduled for a Parvo test, giardia, and a general poop analysis. Breeder did say these pups were pretty wormy.

One vet wanted to admit her immediately, the other 2 said observe, feed the diet we are feeding, and come in if she declines, otherwise just bring her in for tests tomorrow (soonest availability). So that's what we're doing.

Our other dog is at the neighbors, so we haven't introduced them yet. She spent the night there because we weren't sure what puppy has and if we'd have to be off to hospital with her. She's used to the neighbors (around the corner from us) and likes her occasional doggy slumber parties, so she's quite happily romping around with her mates without the slightest clue of what awaits her at home.

That sounds positive, I would expect a pup with Parvo to be extremely poorly by now. It sounds as if the vet panicked a bit. Fingers crossed that all continues to be well.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

She bounced off the walls for over an hour last night and has been very playful after breakfast this morning. When her cooked food is done we'll switch her back to her kibble and see what happens.

Definitely doesn't have Parvo IMO, might still take her to the appointment for parasite tests, but she hasn't pooped since yesterday, so, not sure I can get a sample! Her system was thoroughly emptied the other day, so things have slowed down a bit now.

I could also just buy the wormer that covers giardia and worm her with that and see how it goes.

Or might cancel the appointment and just drop off a sample when I can and pay for the testing. Not sure she needs an exam because she seems totally healthy now. Will call when they open (on USA time).

She's like a tornado LOL going to bring the Lab home later and I suppose it'll be total chaos after that.

 

[Pearlsacarolsinger]

That sounds like normal pup behaviour! I have seen Parvo in an adult dog( who survived), blood poured out of him, a few spots in a pup is definitely not Parvo.
Enjoy your new pup!

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

She bounced off the walls for over an hour last night and has been very playful after breakfast this morning. When her cooked food is done we'll switch her back to her kibble and see what happens.

Definitely doesn't have Parvo IMO, might still take her to the appointment for parasite tests, but she hasn't pooped since yesterday, so, not sure I can get a sample! Her system was thoroughly emptied the other day, so things have slowed down a bit now.

I could also just buy the wormer that covers giardia and worm her with that and see how it goes.

Or might cancel the appointment and just drop off a sample when I can and pay for the testing. Not sure she needs an exam because she seems totally healthy now. Will call when they open (on USA time).

She's like a tornado LOL going to bring the Lab home later and I suppose it'll be total chaos after that.

I‘m behind the times-you moved already?

 

[CorvusCorax]

She bounced off the walls for over an hour last night and has been very playful after breakfast this morning. When her cooked food is done we'll switch her back to her kibble and see what happens.

Definitely doesn't have Parvo IMO, might still take her to the appointment for parasite tests, but she hasn't pooped since yesterday, so, not sure I can get a sample! Her system was thoroughly emptied the other day, so things have slowed down a bit now.

I could also just buy the wormer that covers giardia and worm her with that and see how it goes.

Or might cancel the appointment and just drop off a sample when I can and pay for the testing. Not sure she needs an exam because she seems totally healthy now. Will call when they open (on USA time).

She's like a tornado LOL going to bring the Lab home later and I suppose it'll be total chaos after that.

Honestly just over a year ago I thought mine was dying, couldn't keep anything down and could barely hold her head up, parvo was mentioned despite vaccinations. They rang me the next morning to come and get her because she had pulled her drip out and was eating the vetbed.

 

[ArklePig]

Poor pup and poor you!

Mine had a tummy bug not long after we got her and I convinced myself she had parvo (even after she'd been to the vet I was convinced she'd missed it). They do make you worry. She is very cute and I'm glad she sounds like she's doing a lot better now.

Sorry if I've missed it but does she have a name?

 

[CanteringCarrot]

I‘m behind the times-you moved already?

Yes ? moved here at the very end of September.

Poor pup and poor you!

Mine had a tummy bug not long after we got her and I convinced myself she had parvo (even after she'd been to the vet I was convinced she'd missed it). They do make you worry. She is very cute and I'm glad she sounds like she's doing a lot better now.

Sorry if I've missed it but does she have a name?

Her name is Holly, somewhat because OH insists that she likes Christmas music (???).

 

[ArklePig]

Her name is Holly, somewhat because OH insists that she likes Christmas music (???).

I love it! A Christmas name for a Christmas puppy ?

 

[Caol Ila]

Awww, that's a good name. OH's dad had an excellent dog called Holly. She was one of the best dogs I've known. Died at age 16 last year.

 

[FestiveG]

Mum and dad had a pair of labs called Holly and Ivy, winter pups

 

[CanteringCarrot]

So we have Giardia and a lot of roundworms. Saw a heavy load when the vet let me look at what was under the scope (displays on a tablet). So 5 days of fenbendazole should knock them all out. Will do a follow up fecal.

Odds of the Lab getting it are slim, but if she gets the runs, then I'll pop her on the wormer as well. She gets Heartgard which already works on roundworms.

They were playing hard today. Lab isn't so thrilled about a pup living here and sharing all of the things, but really enjoys playtime and realized it's fun having a playmate in the house. She's the "big" dog now, but the pup will surely outgrow her!

Holly had her first visitor today when a friend popped in and was apprehensive but warmed up to her, especially after she fed her treats. Said friend's husband will pop in the next days so she can have a male visitor too and just get used to others coming into the house. Eventually other dogs will come over too, and we will take her to some shops that allow dogs (once fully vaccinated and all that). She should learn from my Lab that people are alright (Lab basically likes everyone) and that sometimes dog friends come over to romp in the our fenced in area.

Socialization is hugely important for this breed.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

After some growly noises and a few barks this morning, Lab and Corso have been playing inside and outside for over an hour. I imagine they'll be exhausted soon.

Not sure how to go about walking Lab, because pup is going to lose it when both of us leave. She already does when I leave. Which is alright because this happened for a week or two when the Lab was a pup, but she got over the separation. It'll be tough, especially with a guardian breed, because they can be a bit velcro.

Andddd they've crashed..

 

[Clodagh]

I know you know but I’m going to say it.
Be careful letting her exhaust herself playing with an older dog. Sorry. ?

 

[CorvusCorax]

Just be careful yourself and in your garden re giardia as it can jump to humans and live in the soil for a long time, be diligent in handwashing and picking up poos and while I assume you don't have an electric kettle in the USA, I would be pouring boiling water around where toileting has been happening and cleaning shared toys, bowls etc.

None of mine see the others going out without them, I run an airlock type system, one in the house, one in the kennels, one in the van at walking or feeding time, otherwise it just gets very noisy and beds get destroyed in frustration . I will always leave the young one with a Kong or chicken feet or something to keep her occupied when I leave and did so with both males when they were younger.

 

[Clodagh]

How do they boil water in the US? Is that why their tea is so vile? ?

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

So we have Giardia and a lot of roundworms. Saw a heavy load when the vet let me look at what was under the scope (displays on a tablet). So 5 days of fenbendazole should knock them all out. Will do a follow up fecal.

Odds of the Lab getting it are slim, but if she gets the runs, then I'll pop her on the wormer as well. She gets Heartgard which already works on roundworms.

They were playing hard today. Lab isn't so thrilled about a pup living here and sharing all of the things, but really enjoys playtime and realized it's fun having a playmate in the house. She's the "big" dog now, but the pup will surely outgrow her!

Holly had her first visitor today when a friend popped in and was apprehensive but warmed up to her, especially after she fed her treats. Said friend's husband will pop in the next days so she can have a male visitor too and just get used to others coming into the house. Eventually other dogs will come over too, and we will take her to some shops that allow dogs (once fully vaccinated and all that). She should learn from my Lab that people are alright (Lab basically likes everyone) and that sometimes dog friends come over to romp in the our fenced in area.

Socialization is hugely important for this breed.

Do you think the breeder didn’t actually worm the pups? Or used ineffective products?

 

[CorvusCorax]

How do they boil water in the US? Is that why their tea is so vile? ?

On the stove or cup in microwave

 

[CanteringCarrot]

I know you know but I’m going to say it.
Be careful letting her exhaust herself playing with an older dog. Sorry. ?

Yes, I know. Some of the "play" was them each chewing a toy next to each other, and some of it was romping. Not so hardcore, and pup usually eats, romps, and then naps. I did tell them to settle so it wouldn't be too much. So now they're snoozing.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

How do they boil water in the US? Is that why their tea is so vile? ?

They have the wrong frequency (is that the right word?) for boiling. We had to use a pan when in Colorado, made difficult by the height we were up.

When I first moved to France, they also used pans. I bought the family a kettle years later. Revolutionary!

 

[Clodagh]

On the stove or cup in microwave

Yes then. Revolting tea ?

 

[CorvusCorax]

Do you think the breeder didn’t actually worm the pups? Or used ineffective products?

My friend's dog had giardia in Ireland (although both parents from Germany), it's unusual in these islands but it can happen but more common in USA, like I say it can live in the soil and water and can be hard to get rid of, giardiasis used to be notifiable in humans, not sure if it still is.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Yes then. Revolting tea ?

It's because it never reaches boiling point, which is important for tea but less so for coffee. After the McDonalds palaver it's hard to get a bought drink at boiling point.

Sorry Carrot for derailing your thread with beverage chat!

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Just be careful yourself and in your garden re giardia as it can jump to humans and live in the soil for a long time, be diligent in handwashing and picking up poos and while I assume you don't have an electric kettle in the USA, I would be pouring boiling water around where toileting has been happening and cleaning shared toys, bowls etc.

None of mine see the others going out without them, I run an airlock type system, one in the house, one in the kennels, one in the van at walking or feeding time, otherwise it just gets very noisy and beds get destroyed in frustration . I will always leave the young one with a Kong or chicken feet or something to keep her occupied when I leave and did so with both males when they were younger.

Yes, been handwashing, butt washing (pup) and removing poops immediately. Vet seems to think odds of transmission are slim, but if it happens after all of the precautions, then we'll just have to treat.

It's funny because I do have a kettle and have actually been pouring boiling water out there ? I thought of it the other day. It also gets down to -14°C at night, so maybe that kills things too.

Something to keep her occupied is a good idea.