Am I an idiot?

[CanteringCarrot]

Do you think the breeder didn’t actually worm the pups? Or used ineffective products?

She might have, or might not have. She said she did and with which product. Vet said it can happen that some puppies are especially wormy and it may take more to knock everything out of their system.

We've had 2 solid poops though!

On the stove or cup in microwave

Yeah, or boiling water out of some type of coffee or espresso machine is common too. That's how my American neighbor makes tea. I use a kettle or OH's coffee machine. They both produce the same result, really.

I'm no savage that microwaves water. ?

 

[CorvusCorax]

She might have, or might not have. She said she did and with which product. Vet said it can happen that some puppies are especially wormy and it may take more to knock everything out of their system.

We've had 2 solid poops though!




Yeah, or boiling water out of some type of coffee or espresso machine is common too. That's how my American neighbor makes tea. I use a kettle or OH's coffee machine. They both produce the same result, really.

I'm no savage that microwaves water. ?

I think the main problem is that stinking Liptons Yellow Label

 

[Caol Ila]

You can't drink water from natural sources without boiling or treating it in the US, not even from high mountain streams in remote wilderness, because giardia is everywhere. My Dad has been horrified when we've gone hillwalking in Scotland, and I've brazenly filled my water bottle from streams. Never had a problem yet.

I know a couple guys who gave themselves dysentery by filling a bottle with water from a stagnant pond at low altitude in the Lake District (one ended up in the tropical diseases ward at the Queen Elizabeth hospital). So obviously, don't be an idiot, but we don't have the giardia problems in the UK at any rate.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

She might have, or might not have. She said she did and with which product. Vet said it can happen that some puppies are especially wormy and it may take more to knock everything out of their system.

We've had 2 solid poops though!




Yeah, or boiling water out of some type of coffee or espresso machine is common too. That's how my American neighbor makes tea. I use a kettle or OH's coffee machine. They both produce the same result, really.

I'm no savage that microwaves water. ?

Solid poo is excellent!

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

I think the main problem is that stinking Liptons Yellow Label

Evil stuff. It was the only tea I could get in France, ruddy horrible.

 

[CorvusCorax]

Evil stuff. It was the only tea I could get in France, ruddy horrible.

I always travel with teabags.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

You can't drink water from natural sources without boiling or treating it in the US, not even from high mountain streams in remote wilderness, because giardia is everywhere. My Dad has been horrified when we've gone hillwalking in Scotland, and I've brazenly filled my water bottle from streams. Never had a problem yet.

I know a couple guys who gave themselves dysentery by filling a bottle with water from a stagnant pond at low altitude in the Lake District (one ended up in the tropical diseases ward at the Queen Elizabeth hospital). So obviously, don't be an idiot, but we don't have the giardia problems in the UK at any rate.

It’s all very well til you walk uphill and spot the dead sheep in the stream! ?

 

[CanteringCarrot]

My friend's dog had giardia in Ireland (although both parents from Germany), it's unusual in these islands but it can happen but more common in USA, like I say it can live in the soil and water and can be hard to get rid of, giardiasis used to be notifiable in humans, not sure if it still is.

Yeah, it's possibly more common here. We once thought our cat had it in Germany because he had a bout of loose stools, but the vet didn't find anything, so we gave him probiotics and he was fine. Still not sure what caused it (he's indoor, doesn't care much for outdoors).

There's just "more" in the US. More parasites, more things to vaccinate against, and just more diseases.

I mean, my yearling is just getting over ringworm, and we haven't found any on his fieldmates and he doesn't share equipment or grooming stuff with other horses so ??‍ it can just be in the soil, and his immune system was a bit down with vaccines, travel, and worming, so it happens. Only 3 spots and they cleared up well with some antifungal.

I think heartworms are more common here too.

 

[Caol Ila]

It’s all very well til you walk uphill and spot the dead sheep in the stream! ?

You take a look around, obviously! And hope that the dead sheep isn't close and but out of sight. Thousands of hillwalkers and climbers happily get away with it, but you take your chances to some degree.

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

You take a look around, obviously! And hope that the dead sheep isn't close and but out of sight. Thousands of hillwalkers and climbers happily get away with it, but you take your chances to some degree.

Drank from any stream I came across my whole childhood in the Lakes, never had a problem. I think my mum just likes to scare me.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Holly is doing really well. This morning I took just the Lab out for a walk, and left her in her crate. I did put her Kong in there with a few treats, and she listened to a BBC documentary on outer space ?

When Lab and I came back I listened at the door and there was silence. Yay! No screaming pup. When I came in she whined a bit, and then sat quietly and I let her out. We then went outside to do some sit, stay, and come work, which is going well. I also introduced walking on a leash to her. Just short bouts of positive training.

Feeding is going well (they don't mess with each other and neither has food aggression), and I'm probably going to jinx myself but we've had zero accidents since I've brought her home. She might be in her crate a bit longer than I'd like when I have to run to the yard. Usually OH should be back before I'm gone, but he's not always home at the same time.

We've done lots of paw handling and a nail clipping. Just took the very tips off.

It's a risk giving her access to everything where the other dog is, and us, but this is such a crucial time for this breed re socialization, beginning training, and experiencing normal life things. So if anyone gets giardia then 5 days of Panacur it is. Also been cleaning her bum to prevent reinfection and she does poop in a separate area, and the poop is removed then the spot doused with boiling water. It's also going to be so frigid here...idk what will actually survive out there. The water will probably freeze as I'm pouring it.

Obligatory photo:

 

[Shady]

Holly is doing really well. This morning I took just the Lab out for a walk, and left her in her crate. I did put her Kong in there with a few treats, and she listened to a BBC documentary on outer space ?

When Lab and I came back I listened at the door and there was silence. Yay! No screaming pup. When I came in she whined a bit, and then sat quietly and I let her out. We then went outside to do some sit, stay, and come work, which is going well. I also introduced walking on a leash to her. Just short bouts of positive training.

Feeding is going well (they don't mess with each other and neither has food aggression), and I'm probably going to jinx myself but we've had zero accidents since I've brought her home. She might be in her crate a bit longer than I'd like when I have to run to the yard. Usually OH should be back before I'm gone, but he's not always home at the same time.

We've done lots of paw handling and a nail clipping. Just took the very tips off.

It's a risk giving her access to everything where the other dog is, and us, but this is such a crucial time for this breed re socialization, beginning training, and experiencing normal life things. So if anyone gets giardia then 5 days of Panacur it is. Also been cleaning her bum to prevent reinfection and she does poop in a separate area, and the poop is removed then the spot doused with boiling water. It's also going to be so frigid here...idk what will actually survive out there. The water will probably freeze as I'm pouring it.

Obligatory photo:

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Adorable Grey is my favourite colour for them. They scare the crap out of me in black for some reason. I'm looking forward to seeing her grow. x

 

[Christmascinnamoncookie]

Sounds like it’s all going swimmingly!

 

[Clodagh]

She’s got the hard stare already! ?

 

[CanteringCarrot]

She’s got the hard stare already! ?

I know, and she's got a really good skeptical side eye!

 

[Caol Ila]

She sure is cute!!!

 

[CanteringCarrot]

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Currently sitting on the couch with the cat on my right and the two dogs snuggled up to me on the left. I'm surrounded!

We had a friend stop over and puppy did really well with him in the house. Far less skeptical than she was with her first visitor. The first time it was just her, the last times have been with the Lab also being in the house, so maybe she just saw her reaction to the visitors or just got used to other people in the house.

 

[Caol Ila]

The blue eyes with the blue/grey coat is so striking. I'm in love with your puppy.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

I really love the color!

I think her eyes will end up more Hazel or pale green/yellowish, but we'll see. I wish they'd stay blue!

 

[Caol Ila]

Just watched a guy on YouTube who has a male. Beautiful dog. His had cropped ears, though. I think the dog would look better with his natural ears. Do most breeders crop ears? I see Holly's are perfectly intact.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Just watched a guy on YouTube who has a male. Beautiful dog. His had cropped ears, though. I think the dog would look better with his natural ears. Do most breeders crop ears? I see Holly's are perfectly intact.

Yes, many breeders crop the ears, usually at the owners request/expense, but sometimes they just have the whole litter done. Holly does have a docked tail. I could've avoided a docked tail if I had reserved a puppy before it was born and requested it not be docked...since they do it on like day 2. All of Holly's siblings had their ears cropped. A vast majority in the US do and the reasoning is pretty weak. It's also promoted because in the "show ring" they're all docked and cropped. People like the look, ultimately. That's what it comes down to, IMO. I won't do it, personally.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Wayyy too energetic this morning ? finally crashed.

Usually they're quite good, but once in awhile I have to tell them it's time to settle.

 

[Hannahgb]

She is gorgeous!

 

[Squeak]

She is so gorgeous, absolutely love her colour.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Oy. Puppy has a lot of separation anxiety/anxiety in her crate. To be fair, my current Lab was the same way (one before that didn't give a toss) and we worked our way out of it. Just took time, consistency, and training.

Otherwise she's doing quite well. OH has forgotten or removed the trauma from his memory re our Lab having any issues as a pup, but I vividly remember ?

It's extra fun when you think they're totally wee'd and poo'd out, plus physically and mentally tired from training, and they still have a fit and poo in the crate within 5 minutes. Ah, memories. Lab has become a functional adult of course, but puppies can be exhausting.

 

[CanteringCarrot]

Pupdate! She's 8 months old now.

Pup's separation anxiety was short lived, and she only ever poo'd in her crate that one time. House breaking was quite good with her. The amount of accidents she had (wee) could be counted on one hand.

She kicked the giardia that she came with and hasn't had any health issues (knock on wood). She's lightyears smarter than the Lab, and an all around good doggo! She does really well with the cat too. If I have wet cat food on a fork, the Lab, Corso, and cat will all peacefully lick it at once food aggression is not a thing in this house!

She's been to shops, walks with or without the Lab, and is really good in her all around handling (ears, nails, brushing, etc.). She's got a fair amount of energy, which I like because we're active. She had a blast this weekend in the little swimming pool we bought for the dogs.

No regrets with this purchase!

But what happened to my little pup she grew!

 

[splashgirl45]

Glad she got through the health problems, she looks great.

 

[Clodagh]

She’s really scary looking! She’s got the guard stare down to a tee. I’m glad she’s a delight and has got over the puppy issues.

 

[DressageCob]

She’s really scary looking! She’s got the guard stare down to a tee. I’m glad she’s a delight and has got over the puppy issues.

I'm embarrassed to say I'd cross over the street even though she's still just a baby I'm such a wuss. She looks like a panther! Beautiful and striking...but intimidating

 

[CorvusCorax]

That's often a thing with dark dogs with light eyes, they just look more scary than they are!

When my old dog furrows his brow, it's time to get out of Dodge