Amy Tryon

Yup, you could hear shouts, and the commentators were obviously horrified.

I'm not watching it again, I can still virtually replay it in my head from the last time.

Lucinda Green plummeted in my estimation when she supported her.
frown.gif
 
we were at rolex that day and it felt like the whole horse park was shouting for her to pull up people were even shouting at the big screens the whole park was disgusted with her behaviour
 
Im supprised she didnt get linched when she got off him. I cant believe she didnt even look at his leg when she got off!! Everytime i have watched it i have tears in my eyes and i am soooo p*ssed off that nothing more serious was done to her, to see her banned for life.

Is there nothing we can do now? Would some sort of petition do anything??? We must be able to do something.... Or maybe these things were tryed when this happened??
 
She's vile. So desperate to win she didn't care about killing the horse...

And what a horse. To keep going, and even JUMP despite being in so much pain?? How honest, geniune and gentlemanly was he. RIP.
frown.gif
 
[ QUOTE ]
Yup, you could hear shouts, and the commentators were obviously horrified.

I'm not watching it again, I can still virtually replay it in my head from the last time.

Lucinda Green plummeted in my estimation when she supported her.
frown.gif


[/ QUOTE ]

i agree. unfortunately quite a few big names supported her, using the excuse that "if you haven't been there and had it happen yourself, you cannot criticise." LG even used the story of the horse she was riding who had a heart attack and dropped under her, she didn't pull him up. i won't criticise her for that, she didn't have time... i've seen a horse drop like this, unfortunately, and one stride he was fine, next he was gone.
NOT the case with AT. she had about 30 secs to notice (can't bear to watch it again and time it, or listen to check if it's true that the crowd were shouting.)
i know from being in vaguely similar situations that most people just freeze and watch, in shock, though. when it comes down to it it is the rider's responsibility to do something, not the officials, not the crowd.
i think it's too late to do anything. it was up to the American officials and/or the FEI to do something at the time, and because she was a team contender, they did nothing. i agree that if a lesser rider had done such a thing they would have had the book thrown at them for cruelty.
 
yeahb what they said again. and I have just shown that to people who havent seen it before. it doesnt look better after two years either does it.
 
[ QUOTE ]
yeahb what they said again. and I have just shown that to people who havent seen it before. it doesnt look better after two years either does it.

[/ QUOTE ]

i think it looks worse now, in some very bizarre way. probably because at the time we were all hoping she'd get punished for it, and now we know she didn't. i actually cannot think of words bad enough to describe her.
 
I hadn't seen the full clip until today - just the bit where she came through the finish.

I have to say it made me feel physically sick!

There is NO Way that horse had Locked On to the jump - she still had to canter round a corner to get to the jump and he couldn't see it!!
shocked.gif
mad.gif


I suppose she just MIGHT have thought it was a loose boot, or a shoe coming off ..................but then again............... I think I am just trying to think of ANY reason why a human being could do such a thing if they realised, in any way, what was happening
confused.gif


As people have said, she still had the SJ to go................. so if she realised it was a tendon/ligament, surely she would know the game was over anyway?!
confused.gif
confused.gif
confused.gif
 
the thing is, punk, if you feel anything odd underneath you, you glance down, it is a totally involuntary reaction imho. (i felt my saddle move slightly sideways and glanced down at it 3 strides from a fence in sj at Brigstock last year... last thing i wanted to do, couldn't help it!)
i don't want to watch it again, but i don't think she looks down at all until he pulls himself up as quickly as pos after the finish line. ready to stand corrected though.
so, maybe she wasn't lying, maybe she really didn't feel anything, which absolutely beggars belief imho. i can't believe that horse didn't feel like a cripple because he was certainly moving like one.
frown.gif
frown.gif
frown.gif
frown.gif
frown.gif
 
I totally agree K - even a child would look down to see what happened - especially when he kept trying to break into trot - having been in a lovely rhythm before it happened.

Like you, I have only watched it once, and cannot bear to look again, but I think you are right - her only reaction was to kick on regardless.

Absolutely beggar's belief!!
 
I quite agree with Kerilli, even if poor samurai hadn't had such disastrous injuries and it had only been a shoe coming off, or even a tired horse trying to stop... why not pull up and live to fight another day?!

I only compete at BE100, and I get the horses as fit as possible to compete, but if half way round the XC he feels like he's struggling, or not quite right - I pull up and think better safe than sorry. Sometimes its just because we've hung about waiting for our turn, sometimes it's a fitness issue and sometimes its a more serious issue.... but why take the risk?!

I still can't believe how little the FEI did about the whole thing. Disgusted.
 
I agree with everything that's been said above - especially all of Kerrilli's very valid points. I cannot believe the FEI did not give her a life ban. I've just watched the video through and it's made me feel sick to the core of my stomach. No horse should every have to suffer like that and I can't believe she was allowed to jump the last fence and finish.
If my horse is out walking and gets a stone in her foot I automatically jump off to check it - LS tried breaking into trot three times - and she honestly got away with saying she couldn't feel it? Absolutely criminal in my opinion.
 
[ QUOTE ]
how interesting there is no trace of the horse on her website....coincidence?

[/ QUOTE ]
i didn't realise that. "in loving memory" of a dog and not a word about a wonderful horse who somehow stayed on his feet over a big fence when told to jump it in impossible circumstances. if anyone ever deserved an effing rotational fall, she did.
and that is going to be my final word because i don't trust myself not to get even nastier...
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
but i don't think she looks down at all

[/ QUOTE ]

Yep - she does........

[/ QUOTE ]

just have to reply to this one... if she does it's even worse then, she MUST have seen how unlevel he was, if she looked down because she felt it, and then saw it, and then IGNORED IT... words actually failing me now.
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
but i don't think she looks down at all

[/ QUOTE ]

Yep - she does........

[/ QUOTE ]

just have to reply to this one... if she does it's even worse then, she MUST have seen how unlevel he was, if she looked down because she felt it, and then saw it, and then IGNORED IT... words actually failing me now.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yep, totally dispicable.
frown.gif
 
Oh my god. I've never seen that. All the way through reading this thread, I've been debating whether to watch it. I decided I wanted to, so I could judge for myself.

Now I know exactly why you are all so angry. Like Joss, I watched about 3 strides of the poor beautiful horse hurpling along; and knowing what was coming next, had to shut it down. OH has just looked at me in a very concerned fashion as I've gasped, covered my mouth with my hand, just repeating "oh my god, oh my god, I can't watch".

And that's without even watching him jump a fence. It's one of the saddest things I've ever seen.
frown.gif
 
[ QUOTE ]

ColouredFan, i agree with you, if she'd pulled up immediately i think the horse might have been saved. galloping and jumping on a seriously damaged leg didn't do it any good.
frown.gif
frown.gif
frown.gif


[/ QUOTE ]
Well apparently the injury was severe enough before she decided to continue and jump the last, to warrant LS be put to sleep. How they can say for sure, I don't know. BUT whether that be the case or not, that's not the point, is it? AT is a disgrace to the sport of eventing. In fact 'disgrace' is too mild a word. I'm astounded anyone has left any horses with her after that.
 
I too have watched this for the first time and I am disgusted and outraged. It seriously makes me want to drive from dorset up to Burghley just to protest against her and let every one spectating know what a cruel, cruel, heartless woman she is
mad.gif
She has no place in our sport.
 
I couldn't watch the video last night as dodgy connection and haven't seen it before. I had always given her the benefit of the doubt having only read the reports about it but that was horrible.

I am a novice, frank went lame on the beach last spring and I should have been quicker pulling him up, in hindsight I think I felt him do it the first stride (thankfully just a wrenched muscle) but it took a few strides to pull up as we were cantering with others. Its the first time a horse has ever gone lame with me on top and I would like to think I would manage it quicker next time.

BUT there would have been absolutley no f way I would have kicked him on to a jump whilst I was trying to assess if he was truly lame. I wouldn't even have jumped a 6" log let alone something like that.

I am truly horrified watching that vid
frown.gif
 
ester, this is exactly my point. a horse probably would be far less lame from a pulled muscle than from Le Samurai's catastrophic breakdown, but you felt it. I've seen Pros pull up whan I couldn't see anything wrong yet. Her defence, that she didn't feel it, and that the horse had 'locked on' to the last fence (round a corner???!!!) makes no sense at all to anyone who knows anything at all about horses. wtf were the FEI thinking?
sorry, it seems i can't leave this one alone.
frown.gif
 
after the reports at the time I thought it was like 3 strides out, which I could kinda understand as Frank would be locked on at that point (though he would then stop!) not all the way round that corner. If me I might have thought the very first bit was a stumble but 2 strides later and it is still stumbling and then trying to trot multiple times. I am truly shocked watching that vid because that is not what I thought happened.
 
Hello, sorry to resuscitate this. Whilst browsing the forums I saw this lady's name mentioned unfavourably in someone's sig. I googled her and found out what she had done. I looked for the damning footage on the internet and every old url seems to have been removed 'due to a copyright claim' and the one in this thread is now password protected. Just wondered if anyone could point me to the footage.

I'm grateful for that sig as from what I read here I'm glad to have been educated as to who this person is.
 
Yes, funny that every video relating to this has "disappeared" - wonder why? Unless someone has a personal copy on their own account, it is unavailable. Fortunately, (or not) someone very kindly allowed me to view theirs to enable me to show a friend, who had no idea who AT was. She was absolutely horrified that anyone,let alone a 4* rider, could do that, and get no punishment,and be allowed to continue eventing. I personally believe we have a responsibility to a fabulous horse to ensure this is NEVER forgotten, in the vague hope that, one day, AT will realised how utterly loathed she is and actually crawl under a horseless stone where she belongs. Facebook group,anyone? Or will that "disappear,too?
 
i can't find the footage of it anywhere either. strange, considering it happened at a very public event. perhaps the footage itself was seen as 'defamatory'... :( :(
to those who haven't seen it, the horse took, iirc, at least 50 strides (incl round a corner and over the final fence, a pretty large spread) after the big stumble that was the first sign of breakdown. it was very very obviously extremely lame, and repeatedly trying to break to a trot. a beginner could have felt it imho. when you're riding a horse and something feels wrong underneath you, you glance down immediately -this is totally involuntary. (i've got a video of the following - a few years ago my saddle moved slightly to the side 3 strides from a fence in the sj at a BE comp, the last thing i wanted to do was look down but i still did. luckily horse didn't need my eyes or my help and jumped it fine!)
iirc she glanced down once when he stumbled and then not until she finished. very odd. perhaps in the heat of the moment she really honestly could not feel it, was so pumped up on adrenalin and so determined to finish clear inside the time (and iirc she'd led the dressage) that her mind just totally blocked out how he felt underneath her. :( :( :(
btw, this isn't excusing her at all, I'm just trying to understand how an experienced horsewoman, sensitive enough to produce horses to lead the dressage at 4*, couldn't have felt it...
facebook group already exists... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2392725772
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top