Animal Communication - Charlie had a reading! *LONG*

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Some of you may remember that I have been having problems with Charlie, they started over winter and have got progressively worst recently (as his work level has increased). He has been Nappy, Spooky and generally lacking enthusiasm to work
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He has had teeth, back and saddle checked, no problems were found. I have been pulling my hair out as I just didn't know what was wrong with my poor boy and I was so paranoid that it was something serious. It has been playing on my mind ALOT!

I have been planning to get the vet out but at the weekend I went to an event that had an animal communicator there (for those that don't know they claim to talk to animals).

I have used an animal communicator before (a different one to the one I used at the weekend) on both my horses but have never been to them with an actual problem. I thought I may as well give it a go to see if I could find out what Charlie's problem was.

I won't give all the details as I would be here all day and a lot of it probably wouldn't mean anything to you as you don't 'know' my horse.

Basically though; Charlie told her that he has an underlying Virus which is making him feel completely run down, lethargic, depressed and not wanting to do anything. All he can think about is the virus and getting rid of it as it is bringing him down so much.

This makes complete sense to me as A. He had a virus early last year which I thought we had got rid of but obviuosly is still lurking, and B. he seems to have lost his zest for life, the sparkle has gone from his eyes and he just looks bl00dy miserable all the time.

She also told me that when she asked him if he was in pain he mentioned an area above his chest on the side of his neck, that wasn't painful but was slightly irritating. At the time we just put it down to the virus causing problems down his neck but when I went to see him today I remembered that he had a graze on his neck!

She also told me his glands are up, which they are, and that he mentioned that he had noticed his digestion had slowed down - he was put on pink powder at the start of the winter!

Another thing she mentioned is that he feels like he doesn't want to go into the future. At the moment I myself have a real problem with the future, not because I don't want to go into it but because I am absolutely dreading the time when I will loose my boy, it scares me senseless and I don't know how I will cope with it when it happens. As each year goes by I feel it's one less year I have with him
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The point being is that Charlie is picking up on my feeling (which have been worse lately because of his behaviour - me being Miss melodramatic was thinking the worse
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After the reading I was talking to a man who had sat in on the it and he said he could see how much sense it all made to me. He also made a comment that owners can feel there horses pain and feelings if they have a close bond with them. He said that he can walk in to his field and will just burst into tears if one of his horses are in pain, he can't control it.

The look of realisation on my face must have been obvious as he then said 'you have been feeling how Charlie does to haven't you?' And yes I have, for no reason that I know of for the past 6 months I have needed a 'Kick up the @rse' as I just can't be bothered doing anything (not like me at all) and have also been teary/crying at silly little things (again TOTALLY unlike me).

So for all you people out there who really don't believe in the 'animal communication' thing it really is worth a try. I myself was very skeptical at first but after this last reading there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that they really can talk to animals. It is very hard to understand how but I still believe in it.

I don't know why I posted this as you will all think I am now Absolutely bonkers and need locking up (if you didn't think that already) but I just felt I had to share it with you
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Lot's of Choccies and sweets if you made it to the end
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I've aaalways wanted one for Darcy, but due to certain factors on the yard atm i'm holding off. I definitly will do though, glad you're another fan
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It was with a photo - apparently they can do it without a photo if your horse has a distinguishing marking, Charlie is plain Bay though
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I find all this stuff really interesting. What I would like to know is; now you have a reason/explanation about Charlie's state of health, do you feel better? Do you feel that now you 'know' you can do something about it and that you have a more optimistic view of your life with him? For me this is the important bit.

What treatment are you going to try for Charlie?
 

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You really should give it a go
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If anyone wants the details off who I used just send me a PM and I will happily let you know!
 

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I don't think your bonkers - horses are so sensitive it's only natural they pick up on these things. That's why pony patting when you've had a long hard day is the best. I've just come in after kisses and cuddles in the field. The bond you develop is amazing, I love my horses both very much, and I’d love to know what they are really thinking.

I do know they both pick up on my mood. On Saturday there was a party near by and the cheesy music was blasting out, I went up dancing to them (thank goodness no one was around!) Needless to say they were both giddy too.

Having said that I’ve just leaned over my retired boy, who I’m thinking about getting back on for some hacking and said him 'how about it then...a bare back ride...' his response was on yer bike, I’m munching!
 

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I had a reading done on Marius by a lady who was recommended by some people on HHO, and to be honest every part of the 'reading' was completely wide of the mark. Nothing was remotely true, and even trying to make some sense of it and apply it to Marius was impossible.
I am not a sceptic, but certainly this particular lady didn't impress me. Though apparently she did impress other people.
 

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I find all this stuff really interesting. What I would like to know is; now you have a reason/explanation about Charlie's state of health, do you feel better? Do you feel that now you 'know' you can do something about it and that you have a more optimistic view of your life with him? For me this is the important bit.

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100% Yes, I feel soooo relived I can not even begin to explain! Everything just became clear as day and the more I think about what she said the more I understand what it meant.


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What treatment are you going to try for Charlie?

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She recommended a lot of natural products which I am willing to try but the only problem being is she said it may cost in access of £600 over a period of a few months, could be more, could be less as it all depends on what and how much Charlie wants. He has to be aloud as much or as little as he wants for as long as he wants.

I would love to be able to go down this route but I really need to make my mind up (£600 is the price of a new saddle that he needs). My options are to go down the natural route or get the vet out to treat him. I haven't made my mind up yet
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I guess the vet can take some blood and that will tell you if he really does have a virus.

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This is what I am thinking I should do just to confirm it (not that I doubt it but you know what I mean) and then I can decide which course of treatment to take.
 

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I had a reading done on Marius by a lady who was recommended by some people on HHO, and to be honest every part of the 'reading' was completely wide of the mark. Nothing was remotely true, and even trying to make some sense of it and apply it to Marius was impossible.
I am not a sceptic, but certainly this particular lady didn't impress me. Though apparently she did impress other people.

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Would you mind PM'ing me who you used pleased, it would be interesting to know if it was the same person.
 

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I'd get the vet out to do blood tests first, before spending money on natural remedies (and I'm a big believer in complementary therapies). If he has got a virus then there may be a faster route to a cure - and as you say £600 is a new saddle!!!

I am glad that you feel better too as I think this will have a big impact on your relationship with Charlie and how you act around him.
 

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She recommended a lot of natural products which I am willing to try but the only problem being is she said it may cost in access of £600 over a period of a few months, could be more, could be less as it all depends on what and how much Charlie wants. He has to be aloud as much or as little as he wants for as long as he wants.


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Is she selling these natural products? Just being sceptical here but be careful its not a rip off. You can get a lot of herbs for £600! What exactly has she recommended?
 

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read with interest. What I don't ever get though is that I don't believe that horse can have a concept of having 'a virus' so where does stuff like that come from. Horse MIGHT be able to say feels rubbish but to attribute it to a 'virus' as oppose to say a bacterial infection is stretching the imagination in my opinion as most humans struggle to tell the difference.

sorry sciencey non believer here!

I don't see why you couldn't go down both the vet and homeopathic route I would at least start with a blood test.
 

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Ha ha Maizy, I'm glad I'm not the only 1 who does a dance for their horse! I'll shimmy round the po if I'm in the mood and I've been caught doing it aswell, to my shame and embarrassment!
 

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She recommended a lot of natural products which I am willing to try but the only problem being is she said it may cost in access of £600 over a period of a few months, could be more, could be less as it all depends on what and how much Charlie wants. He has to be aloud as much or as little as he wants for as long as he wants.


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Is she selling these natural products? Just being sceptical here but be careful its not a rip off. You can get a lot of herbs for £600! What exactly has she recommended?

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No she isn't selling them but I believe she buys an awful lot from the supplier she recommended to me and many others
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I can't remember exactly what was on the list as I have left it at work, But some of the things where Rose hips, Seaweed (which I can buy from anywhere), St Johns Wort (most important apparently) and Peppermint oil. I think there were a couple more but not sure what they where of the top of my head!

I had a quick look on the website she recommended and the prices aren't to bad if I was to buy the smallest tub of each one (Would probably cost around £100 for everything) but what she said was he may need a lot of everything, or a lot of just one thing. Only Charlie will tell me what he needs/wants.

As an example she said one of her horses was getting though 20kg bags of seaweed regularly for a few months, if Charlie does that with everything she has recommended then there is no way I can afford it
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I don't want to start him on something I can't see through to the end!
 

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I'm sorry to put a complete downer on you but I think that these people are nothing but complete con artists. In my opinion they are on a par with 'clairvoyants and psychics'.

They use a combination of cold reading and throwing lots of 'random' suggestions at the owner who in their desperation to find out what is wrong with their horse/ be reassured that their horses are ok. They cling to the suggestions that are most relevant to them and disregard and forget the ones that are far off the mark.
The easy thing as well is they can say really what they like about how the horse is 'feeling' because the horses can't argue back.

I'm sorry if my opinions upset you and if having the reading has reassured you then what do you care about what I think
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I can highly reccomend reading Derren Browns book 'Trick of the mind' it talks about an experiment he did writing 'readings' for people all over the world. When they were interviewed these people all said that they couldn't believe how well Derren knew them, how accurate the reading was.........until they discovered their 'individual' readings were all exactly the same.
 

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I can't remember exactly what was on the list as I have left it at work, But some of the things where Rose hips, Seaweed (which I can buy from anywhere), St Johns Wort (most important apparently) and Peppermint oil. I think there were a couple more but not sure what they where of the top of my head!

I had a quick look on the website she recommended and the prices aren't to bad if I was to buy the smallest tub of each one (Would probably cost around £100 for everything) but what she said was he may need a lot of everything, or a lot of just one thing. Only Charlie will tell me what he needs/wants.

As an example she said one of her horses was getting though 20kg bags of seaweed regularly for a few months, if Charlie does that with everything she has recommended then there is no way I can afford it
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I don't want to start him on something I can't see through to the end!

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Well I know there is somewhere on e-bay that sells all this stuff in biggish quantities. Seaweed meal STINKS any horse who wants to eat 20kg of it must be in dire trouble!! My two only eat their tea very reluctantly when I put it in.
 

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Im sorry but that sounds ridiculous! I think a 3kg bag of seaweed and rosehips should last a month (willing to be corrected here) and it costs about £15. If a horse is getting though 20kg bags then it is getting too much, that should last about a year. There is a chance of iodine toxicity for a start!

Peppermint oil is a few quid.

Of greater concern is that st johns wort is toxic to horses! Im afraid i would be very concerned about the advice she has given you!
 

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I have never had anything to do with an Animal Communicator so I can't comment one way or another on that, I am a great believer in not condemning (also condoning because I am a sceptic) anything until I have at least given it a go. Quite honestly I think that the main thing is that if it eases your mind, or gets you thinking along the right lines then it has done some good.

I would be phoning the Vet for blood tests, that should clear up the 'virus' question for you at least.

St Johnswort is well known as the 'sunshine herb' and is often prescribed for mild depression it works for me, but I am sceptical, is it just because I am hoping it will work that I feel more cheerful (so a placebo)? Or does it really work? Watch the dosage in sunny weather as it is also known to contribute to photosensitivity.

Peppermint : http://www.lifestyle-home-services.com/content/pets/pet_11.html

Rosehips: http://www.brookbyherbs.co.nz/art4pf.htm
 

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Sorry, I can't believe any of this, these people are very sensitive to the owner and what they say. The fact that she is quoting £600 for herbs from a company that she recommends sounds like she is getting a lot of comebacks from that company. I would get the vet out and see what they say before you give over your money to some con artists, sorry but that is what I think they are. I actually know of someone who was charging people £50 a time to hold some devining rods and dangle a crystal, she would go out of the yard with a big smile on her face and I know she thought it was a load of bullshite because she told us so some years later. She made a shedload of money though as people WANTED to believe it!!!

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I'm sorry to put a complete downer on you but I think that these people are nothing but complete con artists. In my opinion they are on a par with 'clairvoyants and psychics'.

They use a combination of cold reading and throwing lots of 'random' suggestions at the owner who in their desperation to find out what is wrong with their horse/ be reassured that their horses are ok. They cling to the suggestions that are most relevant to them and disregard and forget the ones that are far off the mark.
The easy thing as well is they can say really what they like about how the horse is 'feeling' because the horses can't argue back.

I'm sorry if my opinions upset you and if having the reading has reassured you then what do you care about what I think
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I can highly reccomend reading Derren Browns book 'Trick of the mind' it talks about an experiment he did writing 'readings' for people all over the world. When they were interviewed these people all said that they couldn't believe how well Derren knew them, how accurate the reading was.........until they discovered their 'individual' readings were all exactly the same.

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Everyone is entitled to their own options
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Like I have previously said it is very hard to explain everything as the most trivial things she said will not mean anything to anyone else. The feeling I got when she was doing the reading was unreal!

To me it all meant an awful lot and afterwords the sense of relive was immense, I felt like crying
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I will let you know what the bloods show
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like teddyt would just like to say I would also have concerns about feeding large quantities or seaweed due to the high iodine content and st johns wort due to causing photosensitivity.

In fact I wouldn't want to be feeding anything in uncontrolled quantities. just because its natural doesn't make it safe and most synthetic drugs have natural origins if that makes sense.

Will be interested in the blood test results though so yes please keep us updated.
 

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Im sorry but that sounds ridiculous! I think a 3kg bag of seaweed and rosehips should last a month (willing to be corrected here) and it costs about £15. If a horse is getting though 20kg bags then it is getting too much, that should last about a year. There is a chance of iodine toxicity for a start!

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It's about the horses self medicating, she hadn't had her horse for long and he obviously had problems. He felt the need for seaweed, after a few months he ate less and less of the stuff and now only nibbles on it every so often!

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Peppermint oil is a few quid.

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Yep that's what she said

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Of greater concern is that st johns wort is toxic to horses! Im afraid i would be very concerned about the advice she has given you!

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LMAO, Like I said I don't have the list in front of me so that is probably an error on my part. It sound similar to that though
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