Animal welfare bill

mariew said:
Well if it's genuinely about welfare maybe they need to say all animals to be killed has to be pre stunned, religion or not 🤷‍♀️
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It's obviously a very sensitive topic politically. I've discussed ritual slaughter with Muslim friends (they were all fine with pre-stunning), but I've not had chance to have the same discussion recently with Jewish friends. Does anyone have further info on this?
 
Having read the section on trail hunting, it looks like they are defining it as 'where an animal-based scent trail is laid for dogs to follow.'

So how would this affect the harrier pack I went out with who, apparently, didn't use an animal-based scent but still described the activity as 'trail hunting'?

If it's just about banning the use of animal-based scent, I can't see a ban being all that effective...
 
Nancykitt said:
Having read the section on trail hunting, it looks like they are defining it as 'where an animal-based scent trail is laid for dogs to follow.'

So how would this affect the harrier pack I went out with who, apparently, didn't use an animal-based scent but still described the activity as 'trail hunting'?

If it's just about banning the use of animal-based scent, I can't see a ban being all that effective...
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It’s difficult to see how it will play out.

I suspect the fox packs will mimic the drag packs, but given the foxhounds won’t follow the non animal sent, they will be off the line rather frequently and still be after fox. The fox that will likely be encouraged to breed in nearby locations to the non animal scent trail.

As a country we will spend a fortune banning trail hunting, either policing it or not, and meanwhile the hunts will be exploiting the loop holes in a similar way that the politicians exploit their expenses 💁‍♀️
 
Everyone knows that the foxhunting hunts will find ways to circumvent any restrictions on their antics. Simply banning the use of animal scent to lay trails won’t work, they’ll pretend to be following a synthetic trail while carrying on as they always have done.

My money’s on a radical banning of hunting any ‘laid trails’ of any flavour, natural or synthetic, to stop the naughty hunts in their tracks. That’s why drag and bloodhound packs are under real threat, they may well get taken out too.

Hunting has sabbed itself, it could have survived if it had just followed the law.
 
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Nancykitt said:
Having read the section on trail hunting, it looks like they are defining it as 'where an animal-based scent trail is laid for dogs to follow.'

So how would this affect the harrier pack I went out with who, apparently, didn't use an animal-based scent but still described the activity as 'trail hunting'?

If it's just about banning the use of animal-based scent, I can't see a ban being all that effective...
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I really don't think they (Gvt/LACS) are interested in the foot hunts. They think hunting is a pursuit of the rich, who can afford to keep horses(!) and that is what they want to stop.
 
When is this likely to happen? Assuming it does? I expect there will be big turn outs for Boxing Day meets this year!
 
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