Anyone want a thread for the Olympic dressage live?

scats said:
Fair enough, I don’t think I’ve ever noticed it before. I suppose the point I was getting at was that a snapshot in time can be so misleading.
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This is why it is really hard to judge from a picture, sometimes it is misleading and sometimes it can reflect a problem. No one can really tell which it is, so I like video or keeping quiet ?
 
scats said:
My heart went out to her. People are so quick to stick the knife in when they don’t know the full story.
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yeah exactly. even without any further information i'd have thought that the fact he had white foam in his mouth, and blood on his lip would be a giveaway that it wasn't an injury relating to the bit but people just go off the deep end - same as when Charlotte was eliminated for a spur mark, she's a rider who is in control of her leg, it's just bad luck on a thin skinned horse.
 
milliepops said:
So by way of an example I read the comments made in the aftermath of Caroline chew being eliminated. The horse bit his lip, and then after elimination went straight back to happily munch his hay in the stable. He's hardly an abused horse. But some of the comments on fb were absolutely vile. I'm on the yard next door to that horse, I've seen her train him when we've shared an arena. I am 100% confident that he didn't get blood in the mouth because she's a horrible or awful rider, it was just bad luck, could happen to anyone. Weird how other people can make a judgement about her based solely on the information that he was eliminated under the blood rule. ☹
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I really felt for her. She did really well to keep it together but you could see the heartbreak on her face. Just an example of something beyond her control happening. Doesn’t deserve to be crucified at all. I think it also shows how sharp the judges are on the blood rule as well, which isn’t a bad thing!
 
scats said:
I saw a picture of Edward Gal (I think) at the end of his test on Saturday. I watched the test and certainly didn’t register this happen so it must have been a very brief moment in time but the horse looks very overbent in the halt. He was absolutely torn to shreds.

I liken it, in my very amateur way, to when the photographer is at competitions, and amongst the nice pictures of me and Millie, there is always a couple of pretty horrid ones where, in the frame by frame snapping, they’ve caught her shake her head or do something weird. Fortunately I don’t buy those ones and can pretend they don’t exist! I can’t imagine what it would be like to have those pictures spread across the internet and torn apart.
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Ben Atkinson posted something similar on his FB page this morning in relation to armchair critics and a photo in time.

The internet can be a bloody horrible place, I do feel for the riders that are being unnecessarily torn to shreds.
 
milliepops said:
totally agree, Northern.
off to see to ponies then ready to install myself in front of the TV

Carl 10.20
Lottie 11.35
Charlotte 12.40
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oh hell! I’m not going to see Lottie or Charlotte live as I will be driving during Lottie and will have my eyes stuck shut having my lashes done during Charlotte!! You best believe the first thing I will be doing when I get out is checking my phone for results!

I’m really looking forward to seeing the freestyle today.

Do we know what music Charlotte is using today? Or is going to be a surprise? I sort of hope it is and that it’s another composition inspired by the host country like her London and Rio music. I think that really helped set her apart from some of the more generic dramatic classical music arrangements.
 
Northern said:
I’d like to know how you read my comments as condescending? Maybe take a breath, get off your high horse and re-read what I wrote. My comments weren’t referring to this thread or forum, rather the downright bullying happening on Facebook. I never said people had no right to comment, rather the opposite. Constructive criticism can open a dialogue and that translates to something that could improve ourselves as riders. The comments on Facebook are not constructive or explain why the commenter comes to that conclusion.

Also never watched Gogglebox, I have no time for trashy TV ??
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only_me said:
fair enough, if not directed at this thread then don’t disagree with her
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see my above reply earlier in the thread.
I guess I use trashy TV as an escape from my job in ED. Haven’t reached the level of Love Island you’ll be glad to know.
 
palo1 said:
Really I know so little about dressage but, if you use another example, endurance riders are excellent at teaching horses to 'switch on, switch off' as a requirement of endurance is a lowered heart rate. This can be trained with seat and rein in all honesty. That is achieved quite differently of course and working horses - such as those working cattle or Mongolian horses are trained to switch on, switch off as a matter of course. There are some really good models of training for this but I am not sure, because of the silo-like nature of equestrian disciplines and cultures, whether those techniques would have previously been applied to dressage in the UK. Of course too, it is pretty hard to ask for piaffe, passage, collection and then ask for a relaxed walk for example but there is a precedent in Spanish training and ask any cattle horse worker (not necessarily competitor) about that too... One minute you have a horse effectively pirouetting - if somewhat agriculturallly and the next stride they must walk on a long rein! I think it is fascinating how riders like Carl who have taken influences from lots of different places have started to apply this idea of training relaxation (as it would seem anyway) to what was, previously, a much more rigid and 'held' system - to my view in any case lol!! I know very little about this level of dressage but I am interested in and have some experience of other horse cultures and disciplines/training from those things.
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Interesting, I hadn't thought about it from the perspective of other disciplines.
 
Is/was that passage turn on the haunches (is that a move or was she just turning? lol) Sorry for total ignorance...oops!!
 
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