paddy555
Well-Known Member
by Hoofing Marvellous. If anyone is considering barefoot please be careful.
their view is that all vets, farriers, barefoot trimmers are wrong and only they are right. They are unqualified or at least they have their own training to qualify in their method. Dissent is not allowed.
we all know there are some poor vets, farriersand trimmers but surely the entire horse world dealing in feet cannot be wrong in their ideas most of which are very similar? of course not.
worst of all they are now a total cult and proud of it.
Sadly we have seen cults in barefoot before ie Strasser which caused a lot of problems.
In a cult the leader posts and the cult members agree. They have read the leader's posts and learnt how to repeat them. Many of them have never picked up a rasp let alone trimmed a foot. The simply don't have the info. to evaluate what the leader is telling them. They agree and the leader praises them for their comment so they feel good and agree some more.
Horses and their feet are individuals and need trimming on that basis not on a single trim being applied to every horse. What works for one isn't right for another.
The have the idea that rotation is not due to laminitis but poor trimming. Good trimming to them seems to be leaving the toe long and taking the heels right down, plus I think the bars.
They demonstrated that rotation was due to poor trimming simply by 3 xrays taken on 3 months. They don't seem to believe any other points such as diet,,work, medicine, PPID etc could be relevant. Even if they were correct any project to totally turn current veterinary and farriery knowledge completely on it's head would be massive, taking several years and hundreds of case studies and x rays on all sorts of feet and trims.
Trimming for laminitis appears to include leaving the toe alone. That means it can be anything up to 3/4 inches out in front per some of their pictures. To them leverage doesn't exist.
Simply if you don't trim their way and your horse gets lami it is your fault alone and you must take the blame.
Their posts are aggressive and harsh on this point. That doesn't help anyone with a problem.
Their recent posting showing rotation due to poor trimming based on 3 x rays had many comments from farriers, vets etc but many of these seem to have been removed. The farriers/vets made good points and talked sense. HM replies were bordering on ridiculous. They failed to address points and were very keen on criticising the professionals who, sadly, were not them.
They are boasting 8k followers now on their site. I suspect some of those are like me, watching, concerned but not posting in case we get banned.
I know many on here trim in more or less the same way and work on keeping the toes back but just on case someone is wondering then take care folks.
their view is that all vets, farriers, barefoot trimmers are wrong and only they are right. They are unqualified or at least they have their own training to qualify in their method. Dissent is not allowed.
we all know there are some poor vets, farriersand trimmers but surely the entire horse world dealing in feet cannot be wrong in their ideas most of which are very similar? of course not.
worst of all they are now a total cult and proud of it.
Sadly we have seen cults in barefoot before ie Strasser which caused a lot of problems.
In a cult the leader posts and the cult members agree. They have read the leader's posts and learnt how to repeat them. Many of them have never picked up a rasp let alone trimmed a foot. The simply don't have the info. to evaluate what the leader is telling them. They agree and the leader praises them for their comment so they feel good and agree some more.
Horses and their feet are individuals and need trimming on that basis not on a single trim being applied to every horse. What works for one isn't right for another.
The have the idea that rotation is not due to laminitis but poor trimming. Good trimming to them seems to be leaving the toe long and taking the heels right down, plus I think the bars.
They demonstrated that rotation was due to poor trimming simply by 3 xrays taken on 3 months. They don't seem to believe any other points such as diet,,work, medicine, PPID etc could be relevant. Even if they were correct any project to totally turn current veterinary and farriery knowledge completely on it's head would be massive, taking several years and hundreds of case studies and x rays on all sorts of feet and trims.
Trimming for laminitis appears to include leaving the toe alone. That means it can be anything up to 3/4 inches out in front per some of their pictures. To them leverage doesn't exist.
Simply if you don't trim their way and your horse gets lami it is your fault alone and you must take the blame.
Their posts are aggressive and harsh on this point. That doesn't help anyone with a problem.
Their recent posting showing rotation due to poor trimming based on 3 x rays had many comments from farriers, vets etc but many of these seem to have been removed. The farriers/vets made good points and talked sense. HM replies were bordering on ridiculous. They failed to address points and were very keen on criticising the professionals who, sadly, were not them.
They are boasting 8k followers now on their site. I suspect some of those are like me, watching, concerned but not posting in case we get banned.
I know many on here trim in more or less the same way and work on keeping the toes back but just on case someone is wondering then take care folks.