Biker does 104mph past horse

As for the comment about the horse rider not asking the motorbike to slow down... I'd have had both hands on the reins to better control the horse. If someone is speeding like that they're not the kind of person to pay attention to anyone asking them to slow down IME.
 
ladyt25 said:
To be honest the video didn't play very fast on my computer so I couldn't tell how fast he was going and I did wonder how he was going at 104mph yet he seemed to be sat up? Would someone going that fast be sat in the more forward position? I do wonder if he was caught on camera at 104mph near but not actually passing the horse but maybe others can see the video better than me?
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Nope footage poor but glad someone else has noticed this about the bike riders position.

Yes, you wouldn't be wanting to be going at 104mph in an upright position as the wind drag is horiffic, you tend to tuck in under the screen and make yourself more aerodynamic.
 
I asked a driver in an Audi TT to slow down for me before on a proper(ie narrow) country lane and he just shook his head at me as he sped past. Knob! I very rarely indicate for anyone to slow down but I felt in that case I wanted to get my point across to the a*sehole.
 
OFG said:
Nope footage poor but glad someone else has noticed this about the bike riders position.

Yes, you wouldn't be wanting to be going at 104mph in an upright position as the wind drag is horiffic, you tend to tuck in under the screen and make yourself more aerodynamic.
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And I am no biker either! :) I just immediately thought how can he be doing that speed sat up like that and he also looked to actually acknowledge the rider. She didn't seem to be phased at all either so made me question the footage a bit. I was more mad about the readers' comments!
 
So hard to tell from the video but to me it doesn't look like he went past the horse at that speed, I'm not saying 60mph or over is acceptable past a horse either mind you. I have to say I've met very few inconsiderate motorbike riders overall. I expect it's just in this case it was a good example for the press to highlight due to the police pics available and the speed he was doing as he approached. But I think rather than setting up something like this as an example which just draws wrath from both sides and doesn't really help anything and just polarises people that it's much better that overall solid education is given which I guess you just have to hope will be taken on board - amongst biking and riding groups. No one has commented on the fact that neither girl nor horse is wearing a stitch of hi-viz...
 
I find it amazing that anyone can fail to condem this idiot! Most motor bike riders are very considerate of horses. As my exBiL used to say, he thought too much of his bike to have half a ton of horse land on it! However, this fool put himself and anyother road user at risk. I am also somewhat gobsmacked that people say it is wrong to break the speedlimit by so much. For goodness sake, speed limits are a law, which other laws do people feel they can break, because they can't see they are needed? He broke the law and was dealt with by the court.
 
Have to agree, having watched the video I seriously doubt the bloke is doing anywhere near 104mph as he passes that horse, and he does slow down, you can see it in his posture. Still think he deserved what he got but think it has been sensationalised unnecessarily too.

I can't see any hi viz on either horse or rider though :( not saying that it's her fault at all that he went by so quickly either though! He should've slowed down more but hopefully he's learnt his lesson.
 
OFG

I have to agree with you, also having a sports bike

No way was that bike doing 100mph

You also just see another biker coming into video too ago was also going slow, I'd say he was doing around 40mph

I think he can up over a hill at 100 was clocked at that speed seen the horse and slowed right down.
I also agree even the steadiest of horses would freak at a bike doing over a ton due to the noise.

I believe yes he was clicked doing 104mph but was set up with regards to the horse rider he clearly has slowed right down Inthat footage

He deserves a ban as over 100 warrants a ban but he did not deserve jail.

The police are out if order..!!!
 
Nope the clip is there. I just watched it. Agree there was no way he was going 104, although he was still stupid and I suspect he was slowing because he saw when police hi vis, not the horse. Didn't get to the comments. Got distracted by the Skyfall trailer and Daniel Craig!!
 
The road this video clip is showing is very well known to horse riders, WE ALL know that bikes ride that road every sat & every Sunday . We never, well most of us never ride down it on a weekend for this reason. Said that when we do I have never had an issue with the bikers, they always slow down and always say thanks . It's known for been a fast road .
 
Not being funny, but i have seen and experienced 104mph on a bike and he is doing nowhere near that. What utter rubbish, if he had been doing that speed you wouldnt have been able to distinguish the colour of the bike let alone capture it on that crappy little piece of film.... try taking 100mph off and you might be nearer the mark! Look at the speed of the horse walking in correlation to the speed of the bike. Not only that, as OFG quite rightly pointed out, if he was doing 104mph he would not be sat up and off the tank..
I really dont think it was disgusting behaviour whatsoever, the bike slowed down, and the horse didnt seem in the least bit bothered.
 
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Just to point out that wearing hi-vis is considered advisable, it is not law. Sticking within a speed limit is.

Additionally, regardless of what speed he was clocked as doing, and regardless of whether he was slowing when videoed passing the rider, there is an acceptable and appropriate speed to pass a horse and rider, and he clearly wasn't anywhere near that speed. The speed limit is (broadly) designed to allow you to safely slow down to that acceptable speed once you've seen a potential hazard. If you're significantly exceeding the speed limit, it will be much more difficult to drop to a sensible speed safely and in time.

I have to say my horse is an absolute rock in traffic, and although we see few motorcyles, he is fine with them passing. What he finds more upsetting is the sound of a motorcycle decelerating rapidly.
 
I have to disagree I'd say he passed that horse at a excepable speed as to me it looks like he is going around 40 or less , that's a 60 limit road with two large lanes and the horse is not reacting

So he clearly passed it safely

Had the horse been spooking no doubt he'd of slowed even more or most likely stopped - no biker wants 1/2 ton of animal on his head

This has been dramatised by police and they trying to make example of his due to being clocked at 104 - which yes is wrong

But the horse side of the story is clearly bull *****

Remember spord cameras can detect you at up to 1 mile away so how far away exactly was he when he was caught speeding I'd say at least a good few 100m's

Poor guy :-(
 
Very brave horse! And rider for staying in control... I bet he doesn't even realise the dangers he puts the young girl in.

Glad to hear he's got a ban for such stupid behaviour.
 
yes I can see the clip again now, it wasnt loading for me last night.

mcnaughty said:
Where is the rider's high viz??
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I cant see much from that clip or photo, but all I can tell from the images there is that she isnt wearing a tabard or ex sheet.
Without better photos its impossible to tell if she is using any other Hi viz or not, she could have a full bridle kit, 4 leg bands, and hi viz gloves on for all I know.
 
OFG said:
Rubbish

There was no way that bike was doing 104mph past that horse. Yes, on the approach he is probably going pretty quickly, most bikers would take advantage of a straight piece of road but there is no way that bike was doing 104 just before the video footage stopped.

Poor camera footage for a start and why so suddenly stopped? Camera wasn't focused on bike properly so an accurate reading couldn't have been taken IMO.

And before anyone jumps on me - I am a horse owner / rider for over 25 years and I also have a sports bike which I also drag race so I know what it's like to ride bloody quickly on a bike and that biker wasn't doing those types of speed.

He slows up as he approaches the horse and doesn't do any defensive braking and his riding position is not that of a biker doing in excess of 100mph.

Horse probably didn't react as reported as he wasn't alarmed by the bike because it wasn't doing the speeds the mobile camera operator claims he was. Also, if I were that rider and a bike was approaching me at high speed I would be frantically asking rider to slow down and the rider doesn't do anything - which would indicate that they weren't worried about the bike's speed.

Police have stitched him up.
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OFG,

you're absolutely right. AT BEST that bike was doing 40 mph as he passed the horse and rider, and heavy breaking was evident before that.

IT MAY WELL BE, that he had previously been clocked at 104 mph, but to claim that it was as he passed the horse is quite impossible. More DM bollox, and I wish that those who accept the written word, as gospel, would actually watch the film.

Alec.
 
40 mph is still too fast to pass a horse n rider even on a large road like this. I had experience of this today whilst riding a gun (possible bird scarer) went off for half a second I lost complete control as my horse lept forward, all be it didn't take me long to regain control of my boy. It didn't happen right near us and it wasn't expected. Imagine if this had happen when a car or bike was passing at 40mph needless to say neither me or my boy would probarbly be here. That's why I support the suggested 15mph for passing regardless of what road we are travelling on. The driver has every chance of being able to stop at this speed. I'm sorry but I think he got off rather lightly considering what could of happen had the horse not been so road safe.
 
Alec Swan said:
OFG,

you're absolutely right. AT BEST that bike was doing 40 mph as he passed the horse and rider, and heavy breaking was evident before that.

IT MAY WELL BE, that he had previously been clocked at 104 mph, but to claim that it was as he passed the horse is quite impossible. More DM bollox, and I wish that those who accept the written word, as gospel, would actually watch the film.

Alec.
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you absolutley right Alec if you watch the video closely the bikey even nods his head to the horse rider to ackowledge what i can only think is a thank you for slowing down

some people just need to step off there high horse and take a real good look at themselves before spurting some much ***** out the mouths on here

as Alec said watch the video before posting
 
The horse didn't flinch... Because the biker was not doing 104mph when he passed the horse! I don't think there's anything stupid about the biker (who was clearly on the brakes from the beginning of the clip) for slowing down for the horse rider. Who is also taking a risk, hacking on a main road that is known for having bikes on it frequently.
 
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Where is the video?

In the photo he looks like he is going slower than 104mph BUT he is riding a sportsbike (looks like a Yamaha R1??) and may have a 'double bubble' screen which is designed to improve aero dynamics and reduce rider fatigue at high speeds so he could well have been sat a bit taller than say a rider on an unfaired bike like mine. He may have sat up to aid braking by increasing wind resistance (on track I use this as my bikes brakes are not that great!)

I still think Hi Viz should be compulsory for horse riders and handlers on roads. Why is it such an issue?? Don't riders want to be safe? I hate the look of Hi Viz, it's not exactly chic is it? But Id hate a driver to hit my horse if I could have prevented it.

It is a fact of life that a lot of drivers in cars and on bikes speed, right or wrong it happens. If he was caught doing 104 further down the road but the static photo was taken from a speed camera, he may well have been slowing down for the rider hence the more upright position which says to me he is enjoying his bike and being a bit silly but does not actually want to harm horse or rider.

IF he did actually go past at 104 then yes, ban him. Higher speeds on motorbikes tend to decrease the field of vision as the rider concentrates on looking ahead and making the bodily adjustments necessary to handle the bike, they may also become 'target fixated' on the horizon or the entry to a corner (we can use the vanishing point in a corner to judge the tightness and entry speed needed) which may mean he simply just did not see the rider. Of course had he have been going slower his field of vision and concentration would have been wider in this case.
 
Coloured cob if the horse was not road safe - it should not be on the road. That's just stupid and totally irresponsible and means your putting others lives at risk just so you can hack your horse on the road..?? Idiotic..!
 
EMC - double bubble screen or not , my Daytona 675 has one and at that speed my head still gets ripped off - watch the video it's clear to see he no faster than 30 TOPS

Video is in second like, the daily mail post not the Yorkshire post or what ever it was .
 
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