Blocking up fox holes

[Herne]

I don't know about where you live, but around here, I can categorically state that
a)anyone lamping does not have the landowner's permission. Lampers are not welcome here anywhere (I'm talking a five mile radius at least; that's a lot of land to cover).
b) They are always out of town poaching types, from either Scouseland, Manchester, or Birmingham and a range in between, that come in vans with their night sight lights driving along the lanes and taking pot shots at any eyes they see including cattle who have been blinded by them in the past so don't give me that tosh that lamping is a good alternative, it damn well isn't and it isn't humane because they don't wait to see if they've killed it outright either, just move on to the next set of eyes.
c) Their excuse when challenged is that there's nothing to shoot around them so they need to come further afield. No wonder is it, they've already killed everything off in their own areas so, 'oh, come on, we'll go fifty miles away, might get something there' - and so their killing circle is extended and very soon there won't be much wildlife left because those stupid prats have seen to that.
No bloody wonder, they shoot anything and everything, whether protected or not, breeding season or not. They have no consideration for any species at all.
They put not one jot back into the countryside they are thieving from and are a blight on society to say the very least. They are our nightmare and we're always on the alert from them, they are not welcome around here but that doesn't put them off trying to get their kicks on someone else's property.

I will be very surprised if you can find many lampers who are conservationists who abide by the proper seasons unlike the landowners and genuine quarry hunting people who are always trying to preserve and improve their habitat for all species and respect all breeding seasons too.

I would like to disassociate myself and any hunt I have ever been involved with from that statement.

Lamping, properly carried out, has its place within the countryside and whilst there are some people as described above, most lamping in my experience is carried out by people who have the right to be doing where they are doing it.

I do acknowledge that much lamping is not carried out as well as it could be and I beleive that it is definitely a less selective method of control than Hunting with Hounds - however the above statement is a ridiculous and inflammatory generalisation.

 

[amandap]

Lampers that I have challanged always say they have the permission of the land owner who generally confirms this but I know most of them came from towns.

I think its time this thread was put to bed, it is dealing with numpties who aren't interested in the truth but just to keep it going, just for the hell of it.

Time for a 'numpty' to bow out definitely then. I was just thinking this must be the first hunt discussion I've been involved in when I haven't been/felt insulted.

 

[rosie fronfelen]

Well, if things can't be understood after120 odd posts doesn't that say something?

 

[Maesfen]

I would like to disassociate myself and any hunt I have ever been involved with from that statement.

Lamping, properly carried out, has its place within the countryside and whilst there are some people as described above, most lamping in my experience is carried out by people who have the right to be doing where they are doing it.

I do acknowledge that much lamping is not carried out as well as it could be and I beleive that it is definitely a less selective method of control than Hunting with Hounds - however the above statement is a ridiculous and inflammatory generalisation.

Why? I am only telling the truth as to what happens around here as I said in my post
Does the truth of how our wildlife and countryside is treated by the lampers that visit us without permission not sit easily on you? We don't know any other sort, I'm sure there must be good and bad in other places too but we just get the bad.

 

[EAST KENT]

I think its time this thread was put to bed, it is dealing with numpties who aren't interested in the truth but just to keep it going, just for the hell of it.

Oh well, I`ve learnt something here, there are some very kind people who go around bunging up fox EARTHS before a hunting day ...so the older more tired foxes can "rest". Don`t you think that is rather sweet?? Puts a whole new aspect on earth stopping for me.

 

[Binkle&Flip]

You obviously didn't read my post properly - the dead fox was used by the Drag Hound pack, nothing to do with the local foxhounds. Pre-ban they still hunted a drag line. I find it ironic as so many people who go drag hunting are anti-traditional forms of quarry hunting yet clearly have no idea what they are chasing.

I am confused, sorry. You have stated that you have 'run the drag', but no recognised Drag Hunting involves or allows the use of real fox scent of any kind yet you now claim a dead fox was used?

 

[EAST KENT]

Now that IS nonsense.

 

[Binkle&Flip]

Now that IS nonsense.

According to the Masters of Draghounds and Bloodhounds Association it is true.

 

[Fiagai]

I think its time this thread was put to bed, it is dealing with numpties who aren't interested in the truth but just to keep it going, just for the hell of it.

Agreed. It seems to be the season for Numpties, maybe we could make it open season for them as well....

 

[Binkle&Flip]

Oh well, I`ve learnt something here, there are some very kind people who go around bunging up fox EARTHS before a hunting day ...so the older more tired foxes can "rest". Don`t you think that is rather sweet?? Puts a whole new aspect on earth stopping for me.

Fortunately others know exactly why you used to do it

 

[Binkle&Flip]

Agreed. It seems to be the season for Numpties, maybe we could make it open season for them as well....

Would those be the same people who make silly little posts when combat_claire is asked a very reasonable question?

 

[rosie fronfelen]

Just wondering how long this tired old thread is going to drag on- what is your point BF?

 

[rosie fronfelen]

133 and rising- dear oh dear-

 

[Binkle&Flip]

Just wondering how long this tired old thread is going to drag on- what is your point BF?

Since asking combat_claire a genuine question regarding drag hunts three of you with no interest whatsoever in my question have added four posts. Four completely pointless posts. What is the point of that

If you have no further interest in this thread why on earth are you posting on it!

 

[Binkle&Flip]

133 and rising- dear oh dear-

Just how many of those 133 posts have been by yourself and others to do nothing more than disrupt the discussion my dear?

 

[rosie fronfelen]

I dont think i am alone with my opinions here, and i am not your dear-n on this glorious sunny day do you not have a horse to ride or something else to do bar wind up folk on here?

 

[rosie fronfelen]

I have no interest in drag hunts so could not answer your queries any way.

 

[Fiagai]

Agreed with rosiefronfelen. oh dear(!) I think we are finally getting through to someone. Before this thread was hijacked for other purposes I believe the question posted by Kautostar1 was relative to "blocking up fox holes".
Despite unsourced and false information been posted the legal position of this activity has now been correctly established. Definitly time to put the thread to sleep and for numpties to go and to bother someone else...

 

[Binkle&Flip]

I dont think i am alone with my opinions here, and i am not your dear-n on this glorious sunny day do you not have a horse to ride or something else to do bar wind up folk on here?

Pot/Kettle.

 

[Binkle&Flip]

I have no interest in drag hunts so could not answer your queries any way.

Perhaps then out of courtesy you could wait for combat_claires response rather than trolling.

 

[Binkle&Flip]

Agreed with rosiefronfelen. oh dear(!) I think we are finally getting through to someone. Before this thread was hijacked for other purposes I believe the question posted by Kautostar1 was relative to "blocking up fox holes".
Despite unsourced and false information been posted the legal position of this activity has now been correctly established. Definitly time to put the thread to sleep and for numpties to go and to bother someone else...

How could I not have guessed you would agree with rosiefronfelen
I do believe that on page 4 of this thread I reminded everybody the issue was the opening post and we should return to it. However your 'friends', as you say continued to hijack the thread for the purposes of yet another anti/pro debate! It is time for the numpties to go and bother someone else and leave those who still wish to post within the relatively safe confines of this thread alone. The big question is can you and your comrades do so

 

[rosie fronfelen]

Do you not have anything better to do than bicker? Having said that i am bored with thisnumpty nonsense and return to the rugby and leave BandF to vent their feelings o some other poor soul- toodleoo.

 

[Fiagai]

Oh dear...One of the above is not like the others and I believe that someone is having a little tantrum!

BTW From the Urban Dictionary
Trolling

Trolling is ATTEMPTING to get a rise out of someone. Forcing them to respond to you, either through wise-crackery, posting incorrect information, asking blatantly stupid questions, or other foolishness.

All I hear is the strange rumblings of the wind among the bushes. So nighty night and dont let the nasty little trolls bite....

 

[oakash]

As an only occasional visitor, it is interesting that Binkle & Flip et al seem to have totally lost the plot. Most of us who have first hand experience know that hunting with hounds is the most humane way to control, and not eradicate , the fox population. Why do not Binkle and Flip applaud that? Or have they a hidden agenda? (Never mind the foxes, we want to get at the PEOPLE?, which we HATE?)

 

[Binkle&Flip]

As an only occasional visitor, it is interesting that Binkle & Flip et al seem to have totally lost the plot. Most of us who have first hand experience know that hunting with hounds is the most humane way to control, and not eradicate , the fox population. Why do not Binkle and Flip applaud that? Or have they a hidden agenda? (Never mind the foxes, we want to get at the PEOPLE?, which we HATE?)

Lost the plot?? Since the Hunting Act came in to force I like many, many others now support the hunts and the new form of legal hunting. It is becoming very clear at least on this forum that hunt supporters are more than happy to crow to the press and others about their increased support yet despise the new intake of supporters! Ask a genuine question and watch the bullies decend.
It is not I who hates other people or has an agenda oakash. I suggest some of you take a long look in the mirror!

 

[rosie fronfelen]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

 

[Fiagai]

When someone thinks everyone else is wrong and only they are right!....jeez I'm loosing count of the number of "wrong" people here...

*brings myself outside to give myself a good talking to*

 

[rosie fronfelen]

There are only 2 experienced hunters on here now-what to do?

 

[Binkle&Flip]

When someone thinks everyone else is wrong and only they are right!....jeez I'm loosing count of the number of "wrong" people here...

*brings myself outside to give myself a good talking to*

I suspect those reading this thread will clearly see who those are who believe they are right whilst everybody else is wrong. You know, those who attempt to stifle discussion, name call and offer only snide comments toward people with a different opinion to their own.

 

[Binkle&Flip]

There are only 2 experienced hunters on here now-what to do?

Gosh, this thread has had getting close to four thousand views. Can you not, even at this late stage, post something of some interest on topic?!