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Over 1/2 of those were flexion positive too...
Try to stop googling and deal with what’s in front of you! He was still enjoying his work and sound before you found the problem, and the problem was so subtle it only shows up at higher paces in one direction whilst jumping. You have no idea how long the scar tissue has or hasn’t been there. Nothing of that has changed just because you’ve managed to find an ultrasound ‘problem’. Deal with the rehab but try not to let them be too negative!
 
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rara007 said:
Over 1/2 of those were flexion positive too...
Try to stop googling and deal with what’s in front of you! He was still enjoying his work and sound before you found the problem, and the problem was so subtle it only shows up at higher paces in one direction whilst jumping. You have no idea how long the scar tissue has or hasn’t been there. Nothing of that has changed just because you’ve managed to find an ultrasound ‘problem’. Deal with the rehab but try not to let them be too negative!
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Precisely this.
You have a sound, happy, fit horse that is not positive to flexion.
All you are dealing with is a minor soft tissue injury that pretty much all working horses will get at some point and most will manage their jobs perfectly adequately despite it!!
 
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Good luck, he is in safe hands by the sounds of it with your vet and with you :) sending good vibes for a full recovery.

And YES you absolutely must get another pony to play with in the mean time and I do love a bay connie :)
 
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ihatework said:
Precisely this.
You have a sound, happy, fit horse that is not positive to flexion.
All you are dealing with is a minor soft tissue injury that pretty much all working horses will get at some point and most will manage their jobs perfectly adequately despite it!!
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Well vet then said to me he could see the lameness on a straight line trot up yesterday which surprised me a bit as he couldn’t before!! I guess once you know it’s there..

But yes. Agreed. :)
 
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Sorry to hear it wasn't all in your head & he does have a poorly. Re track systems for what you're after it may be worth having a chat with Gawsworth Cheshire way out. May even be worth a talk with Nic at Rockley to see if she's had any with similar & if they improved with their regime
 
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Posted on my other thread too but update for all:




Right guys, vet and I have now spoken via phone instead of text.
So, the 3 month plan is as it is. The further 3 months in a small paddock with an hours walking a day is really with the view to then bring him back into work. Vet said if not intending to bring back after 6 months, might as well just rest in small paddock.

He absolutely agrees that my initial thoughts were right and that with an injury like this of which there is so little knowledge and case studies on (two further specialists consulted), it’s a bit of a stab in the dark and that more time off can only be a good thing. He said I very much have two options and certainly there is no judgement for bringing him back into work after six months if the scans were good, but that it would be frustrating if the issue then re appeared and we hadn’t just given that extra time of let down.

With that in mind, I think I’m going to follow my gut which is rarely wrong and found this diagnosis in the first place, and turn him away once he’s been through the 6 months of “control”.

So pony hunt is, I guess, back on!
 
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Only just seen this post about Boggle! :(

What crappy news.. but well done for pushing to find the issue!
My YOs horse done something very similar that took a long time to diagnose, hunt horse hunting 3 times a week. He ended up having stem cells injected and has made a full recovery back hunting doing great. I'll find out exactly what he done, I know it was a branch on his hind left leg but not exactly what it was!
 
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Well Boggle has his last scan today after 13 weeks of box rest with in hand walking. It’s been a long old slog. The scan was really good, the injury was quite hard to find and the vet said we couldn’t really hope for better in terms of healing- for a ligament. He caveats that with the fact that a healed scan does not necessary always equal comfort, particularly in Boggles case where it was a “tweak”, and that injuries in the fetlock really are tricky. But he is pleased and we are optimistic even though the other vets he consultant with weren’t so for this particular, unusual injury.

We are going to continue the controlled walking consistently for another month, 2 weeks in a straw pen then he will go into a small paddock for most over the summer. After the next month is over he will go on a regime of being hacked a few (hopefully 4 days ish) a week in walk for the rest of the summer, hopefully into Autumn and then he will he picked up again properly Jan 2021 to get back into some proper work. I spoke with my vet re doing this or turning away and he said that actually he’d probably benefit from being kept in some light walk work rather than being totally roughed off, so we will give it a go and see where we get to.

It’s been a long slog and the consistent regime of it is not over for another 4 weeks really but we have no more scans booked and really it’ll be spring next year now when he next sees a jump that we will know if he’s come good from this. I feel weirdly deflated I guess because its not like I am suddenly bringing him back and the vets cautious words do play on my mind a little. However, I’ve followed this rehab to the very minute and have done absolutely everything I can, plus Boggle is coming out of it very well, looking brilliant and having kept his sanity and good humour- he has never for one moment caused trouble in that box and whilst he needs doping to leave the yard over the last two weeks I cannot fault how easy he has generally made the in hand walking around the yard for me. He has taken it all with such good temper and I’m very lucky to have a horse whose coped as well as he has.

I hope one day we will get back out XC and perhaps even hunt together again on perfect ground but for the rest of 2020 we will be enjoying our hacking and being best mates.




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Michen said:
Well Boggle has his last scan today after 13 weeks of box rest with in hand walking. It’s been a long old slog. The scan was really good, the injury was quite hard to find and the vet said we couldn’t really hope for better in terms of healing- for a ligament. He caveats that with the fact that a healed scan does not necessary always equal comfort, particularly in Boggles case where it was a “tweak”, and that injuries in the fetlock really are tricky. But he is pleased and we are optimistic even though the other vets he consultant with weren’t so for this particular, unusual injury.

We are going to continue the controlled walking consistently for another month, 2 weeks in a straw pen then he will go into a small paddock for most over the summer. After the next month is over he will go on a regime of being hacked a few (hopefully 4 days ish) a week in walk for the rest of the summer, hopefully into Autumn and then he will he picked up again properly Jan 2021 to get back into some proper work. I spoke with my vet re doing this or turning away and he said that actually he’d probably benefit from being kept in some light walk work rather than being totally roughed off, so we will give it a go and see where we get to.

It’s been a long slog and the consistent regime of it is not over for another 4 weeks really but we have no more scans booked and really it’ll be spring next year now when he next sees a jump that we will know if he’s come good from this. I feel weirdly deflated I guess because its not like I am suddenly bringing him back and the vets cautious words do play on my mind a little. However, I’ve followed this rehab to the very minute and have done absolutely everything I can, plus Boggle is coming out of it very well, looking brilliant and having kept his sanity and good humour- he has never for one moment caused trouble in that box and whilst he needs doping to leave the yard over the last two weeks I cannot fault how easy he has generally made the in hand walking around the yard for me. He has taken it all with such good temper and I’m very lucky to have a horse whose coped as well as he has.

I hope one day we will get back out XC and perhaps even hunt together again on perfect ground but for the rest of 2020 we will be enjoying our hacking and being best mates.

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Good news. He's looking quite perky too :)
 
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