CDJ withdrawn from paris

[SkylarkAscending]

I just really hope Carl isn’t affected by all this, I could believe it of her but he surely wouldn’t….

 

[eahotson]

Interesting.

 

[Rowreach]

So the next Olympics we'll see Modern Pentathlon without horses (which I actually agree with) and dressage on hobby horses (which I'm beginning to think is all these people should be riding).

 

[MuddyMonster]

I really, perhaps naively, thought CDJ would be better than that. Especially given how much she posts on social media about her love for horses and charity work etc

 

[Squeak]

There have been mutterings about CDJ from a few posters on HHO for a while, but I’m in the dark.

ETA Lead item on BBC R2 4pm news

I hadn't heard the mutterings at all, they always tried to put across an image of really caring for the horses and their welfare - enough turnout and variance in their work etc etc.

Really really disappointing and really disappointing for dressage as you do have to start to wonder if any of the top riders get there without abusing their horses.

 

[Ceifer]

I’m afraid I’m not overly surprised. The elite modern dressage fraternity get their results by a degree of force. I’m surprised it was Charlotte outed first though. Lottie Fry’s death grip on her horses suggests she’s not the kindest of trainers/riders.

 

[U.N.Owen]

The rumours are more between the higher level dressage competitors if that makes sense? You see things at higher level shows/ when you're in that circle than when you are a spectator.

 

[SkylarkAscending]

I hadn't heard the mutterings at all, they always tried to put across an image of really caring for the horses and their welfare - enough turnout and variance in their work etc etc.

Really really disappointing and really disappointing for dressage as you do have to start to wonder if any of the top riders get there without abusing their horses.

If by “they” you mean Charlotte and Carl, I don’t think we can assume he is also implicated?

I drive past the yard most days - yes the horses do live the lifestyle that is portrayed, plenty of turnout, hacking (you see them out daily) etc

 

[ponynutz]

Just seen her post and came straight here, thanks for making a thread.

Has anybody seen the video? I wonder if her advocating for animal welfare has always been because she felt so ashamed of herself. Makes me more likely to believe it was truly an error of judgement.

 

[U.N.Owen]

I really, perhaps naively, thought CDJ would be better than that. Especially given how much she posts on social media about her love for horses and charity work etc

That's a PR team, she hasn't done her own media for a long time as she used to put up some slightly posts.

 

[Slightlyconfused]

I hadn't heard the mutterings at all, they always tried to put across an image of really caring for the horses and their welfare - enough turnout and variance in their work etc etc.

Really really disappointing and really disappointing for dressage as you do have to start to wonder if any of the top riders get there without abusing their horses.

This, though I havent been a fan of her riding or the horses she has had since blueberry has retired.

She has seemed to be more heavy handed etc.

 

[Sanversera]

I want to see the video does anyone have a link?

 

[Sanversera]

Where's the video?

 

[Nicnac]

Sad for team GB and her. As others have said strange that a four year old video has emerged - very timely...... FEI investigations tend to take their time so guess there won't be an outcome for a while. i wonder whether withdrawing was her decision.

 

[LadyGascoyne]

Oh wow

 

[NinjaPony]

How incredibly disappointing and bleak for British dressage

 

[BallyRoanBaubles]

Wonder what’s actually in the video

 

[Birker2020]

What's this about? On faceache?

 

[holeymoley]

The timing is a bit coincidental. I wonder what it was?

 

[Foxford]

Surely they must have the lorries loaded and be ready to go. 1st dressage event is a week today. Wow!

If she can't compete for ages due to the investigation, or she gets a ban, I wonder if we'll see some of her horses move to other riders?

 

[Squeak]

I guess that’s my HR mind not wanting to make assumptions or pass judgment before the facts of the situation are known….. and taking into consideration Kat’s comments too….

I really hope he is, and would love for him to be, innocent of it. It would be another massive blow to British dressage if he isn't.

 

[Oisin.equii]

The timing is a bit coincidental. I wonder what it was?

That's what I was thinking with the coincidental timing. I was chatting with a couple of friends and one said that it was like sabotage because she said flatly over the past 9 months more people have been called out and why not call her out then, instead of right before the Olympics, especially since the video was 4 years old

 

[teapot]

Surely they must have the lorries loaded and be ready to go. 1st dressage event is a week today. Wow!

If she can't compete for ages due to the investigation, or she gets a ban, I wonder if we'll see some of her horses move to other riders?

Dressage horses arrive in Versailles this Friday.

 

[Petalpoos]

Already a few threads on this.

 

[myheartinahoofbeat]

I can’t say I’m that surprised. A dressage pro friend of mine told me ages ago how hard she was on her horses and that she was in no way a role model.

I’m surprised they haven’t gone for Lottie Fry as she is a more obvious choice to call out as her horse always looks stressed.

I hope it doesn’t implicate Carl as I’ve always found him to be genuine.

Does this mean we get to see Jagerbomb strut his stuff
( I don’t fully understand the new rules)

 

[Forum Admin Team]

Threads merged.

 

[Crazy_cat_lady]

I don't watch dressage as it bores me to tears but I always thought she was one of the nicer ones.

Makes you wonder what it is, can imagine though given what's prevalent in the "sport"

It'll get to the point, if it hasn't already done so where you cant trust any of them

Makes you wonder if its a jump before you're pushed decision

 

[Tiddlypom]

As the video is 4 years old it could have been released before the Tokyo 2020 Games held in 2021.

Someone’s got hold of it since, and seem to have been waiting their chance to create maximum mayhem and adverse publicity for CDJ pre Paris 2024.

 

[SkylarkAscending]

He's just as bad...

What evidence have you got to support that as a matter of interest?

 

[Crazy_cat_lady]

I think you have to look at Carl depending on what the content is, as she trains under him so you have to question where she's learnt to do whatever she was doing. You'd hope he wouldn't, but then you'd hope she didn't either. It can't just be dismissed that he couldn't possibly do it because he seems a nice guy. I thought she was.

You do have to wonder how much longer this can continue, when the mask slips from what you thought where the "good guys".