Dangerous stallion?

[AmyMay]

Have the police taken any action yet?

 

[TwyfordM]

Have the police taken any action yet?

None

 

[little_critter]

None

If this had been an attack by a dog I bet they would have been all over it.
Ref lacking feeling, if her wrist got mooshed it could well have damaged the nerves. When I broke my wrist they put a plate in it and because it was in a fiddly place they aggrevated the nerve in my wrist. The physio said it could take 6 months to get back to normal (and I though yeah, right, it will be fine in a few weeks). She was right, it went from totally numb to some feeling in a few weeks but to get totally normal feeling in my thumb and forefinger did take around 6 months. I spent months feeling like I'd sat on my hand and it had gone just a little bit dead (still useable and operational, just only 99% feeling)

 

[AmyMay]

None

That’s appalling! I hope the family are pushing for it?

 

[TwyfordM]

That’s appalling! I hope the family are pushing for it?

Her son works for the police so he will do all he's able to, legal routes etc all getting looked into

 

[Squeak]

Donate to Help Tracey recover from her horrific injuries, organized by Hannah Donovan

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Just updating now

I really hope you don't mind me saying, as I really am just trying to help as it would be great to raise as much as possible for Tracey but somehow the description on the just giving page doesn't quite do justice to the situation and I'm not sure I'd have realised why I needed to be donating if I hadn't have seen this thread. It's absolutely terrible what's happened to your friend and incredible how brave her mare was.

I'm terrible at writing that sort of thing and I'm guessing you probably have had to be careful what you wrote because of police etc but there are some people on here who are amazing with writing that may have some suggestions?

I really really hope you don't mind me having mentioned it.

 

[TwyfordM]

Update after hospital visit and further scans is that bones are pretty much shattered and it's going to take a few surgeries for a fix, as well as hoping for the best where the tendons/muscles/nerves that are shredded are concerned.

Still no feeling in hand or use, T is in absolute agony

 

[Rumtytum]

Thanks for the update TM, although it’s not what anyone wanted, especially your friend. What a nightmare for her .

 

[misst]

I'm so sorry to hear this. It is horrendous. Not trying to overload with information but has she been seen by the pain management team? Sometimes when pain is going to be ongoing like this and severe like this it needs expert management beyond the usual orthopaedic team. She can ask for a referral to the Pain Management Team. There are community access and hospital access clinics. x

 

[EventingMum]

I wonder if it's worth contacting the media to give this case more traction? I would also be exploring compensation as this is obviously going to have long reaching effects for Tracey.

 

[sky1000]

I have done another small donation. I am horrified that nothing has apparently happened re this very dangerous stallion next to a public path.
I do agree that adding in the heroic mare's actions and injuries to the go fund me would have a strong effect.

 

[Surbie]

Update after hospital visit and further scans is that bones are pretty much shattered and it's going to take a few surgeries for a fix, as well as hoping for the best where the tendons/muscles/nerves that are shredded are concerned.

Still no feeling in hand or use, T is in absolute agony

So sorry there isn't a better update. I would hope that there would be more interest from the media, particularly with the stallion's field bordering a bridleway/footpath, and with her mare's heroic behaviour. I couldn't agree more with @little_critter that if this had been a case with a dog the press would have been all over it.

 

[reynold]

I agree if it had been a dog then there would already have been press interest.

Is it worth reporting it to a local paper so that it might then be picked up by national press such as the forum's favourite paper the Daily Mail?

If it can get picked up by the Mail then they are likely to ask questions of the local police and maybe kick them into action. I am surprised that the Police haven't done anything considering the victim's son works for the police

I wish her well and am sorry that there isn't better news on her progress. I've given a donation a few days ago.

 

[little_critter]

I thought about this case when the news of the Sycamore Gap tree felling came up.
Police have arrested someone for cutting down a tree, granted it's a beautiful tree - but no-one was hurt in the process.
And yet an attack by a dangerous horse in an area accessible by the general public gets no response.

 

[Annagain]

I thought about this case when the news of the Sycamore Gap tree felling came up.
Police have arrested someone for cutting down a tree, granted it's a beautiful tree - but no-one was hurt in the process.
And yet an attack by a dangerous horse in an area accessible by the general public gets no response.

What's happened is awful but there's no law been broken that I can see so I doubt the police can do anything. There's a specific Dangerous Dogs Act and there are laws about livestock in fields with public footpaths in (not next to) them but given that Tracey was in the field next door and not on a public footpath in the field, I'm not sure there's anything that would cover this incident. It's rubbish but that's the way it is. At best this is a civil case.

 

[minesadouble]

I would think the most likely route iwpuld be negligence leading to personal injury. The argument would be that the Stallion wasn't safely contained. The Police should be more interested that a member of the public has been so seriously injured. They definitely need chasing up!

I amazed that the brave little mare wasn't either kicked or covered!! She was very lucky to get away with the wire injuries!

 

[TwyfordM]

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I would think the most likely route iwpuld be negligence leading to personal injury. The argument would be that the Stallion wasn't safely contained. The Police should be more interested that a member of the public has been so seriously injured. They definitely need chasing up!

I amazed that the brave little mare wasn't either kicked or covered!! She was very lucky to get away with the wire injuries!

She has a load of kicks and bites down her sides, any stallion trying to cover her though wouldn't stand a chance

She's one opinionated little mare!

 

[TheOldTrout]

Only just seen this, what a horrifying story. Hope your friend is bearing up, @TwyfordM. Her mare sounds an amazing character.

 

[Keith_Beef]

What's happened is awful but there's no law been broken that I can see so I doubt the police can do anything. There's a specific Dangerous Dogs Act and there are laws about livestock in fields with public footpaths in (not next to) them but given that Tracey was in the field next door and not on a public footpath in the field, I'm not sure there's anything that would cover this incident. It's rubbish but that's the way it is. At best this is a civil case.

I think that Tracey needs to get some proper legal advice asap.

It's probably the last thing that she's thinking of, right now, while her life is turned upside down.

But I fear that if the press jumps on the story too early, the owner of the stallion will simply move it somewhere else.

A civil case will be tricky, and only a lawyer will be able to make some guess at a chance of success and what status and case law applies.

I think that in the first few posts of the thread it is mentioned that Tracey was in the field with her own mare when the station grabbed Tracey's hair and pulled her through the barbed wire fence, and that there is another edge of the stallion's field that has a public footpath running along it.

So in my mind, there are three reasons for going to court over the incident.

1. Award of damages to Tracey for injury and expense
2. Removal of the current and future danger to people in the field where Tracey was attacked
3. Removal of the current and future danger to people on the public footpath.

 

[ycbm]

Even if there is a legal case, unless Tracey is insured to fight it, or can find a lawyer to do it no win no fee, or someone with a big purse offers to underwrite it, she's not going to be able to afford to fight this.

I believe case law is that a horse owner is liable for any damage their horse does, whether there has been negligence or not. So it's not impossible that she'll find a NWNF lawyer. but I also suspect that the owner of the horse will prove very difficult to prove beyond doubt to serve the papers on, and even if the case is won they are likely to magically have no funds to pay the damages or court costs.

It's utterly unfair, and I hope a way can be found to get her compensation. What a nightmare with no end in sight.

Please keep bumping the justgiving page, she must need every penny it can raise.
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[TwyfordM]

Bumping up as just received the devastating news from T at the hospital. Had a surgeon come in from London hospital to assess next step forwards and there's no good outcome.

They are taking the bar out today, casting and what will be, will be.

They can't put metal work in due to the infection risk as it will almost certainly lead to full amputation she can just about wiggle two fingers, but this is likely to be the most use she will get back of her hand. Her wrist is bent at an angle and there will likely be further ops down the line to salvage what they can.

She's going in for the op now, and is talking about riding one handed she's absolutely devastated but still trying to sort everything moving forward bless her.

 

[misst]

Oh I am so so sorry to read this but unsurprised having seen that photo and heard about the infection. I have nothing useful to add but sending every best wish for a decent recovery and a really big wish for compensation as her needs will be endless for the next couple of years at least.

 

[SEL]

That's just awful. It's bad enough when someone gets hurt by their own horse or working with them, but this was an attack and it just feels incredibly unfair

 

[AmyMay]

That’s just dreadful news

 

[twiggy2]

Fingers crossed the surgery goes as well as possible and that infection doesn't complicate things further.
I hope T manages to remain positive and riding with one hand is another skill she manages as she tackles life.

 

[toppedoff]

Absolutely devastating I really hope she can get legal help or something

 

[little_critter]

Yes she can absolutely ride one handed, hell my trainer rides in a double bridle one handed!
I truly hope she can remain positive.

 

[scats]

Awful news. Please send her all our best wishes xx

 

[TwyfordM]

Fingers crossed the surgery goes as well as possible and that infection doesn't complicate things further.
I hope T manages to remain positive and riding with one hand is another skill she manages as she tackles life.

She's already ordered bridged reins, how she's staying positive I have no clue

 

[Parrotperson]

This is absolutely dreadful. Poor T.

TwyfordM excuse me if I’ve missed it but did the police get involved at all?

Does she have any recourse to the owners of the stallion?