***Daughter and Dolly....what would you do.....***

Ignore leg length!!!!! I know a junior eventer who is about 6ft and rides her 14.1 at novice open eventing level.......
If the pony is carrying well don't worry about it...... You need a condiment rider who's had a good season before making that leap up
And that pony will go 2'9 easily! She's a fab little girl and can give a lot to your daughter yet
For that move....wait until spring, see how much your daughter grows as I think you will be looking for something bigger than dolly by then...... I was 12 when I got my 15.3 tb...... Still got him now almost 6 years on!
 
I think your daughter looks fine on her but...
as has been said I would put the word out and wait and see what happens. Am I right your daughter is planning on going up sizewise by 2 hands? That is an awful lot in one step...also presumably to a high powered competition type pony? I would be very careful there about too big a leap both ability and confidence wise. Your daughter is a lovely rider but slowly slowly catchy monkey with the next pony I think. I hope that makes sense, have had both cider and a glass of wine!
 
Rolo--Chilli said:
If you think Dolly has the ability to do what your daughter wants next year. Then i would keep her.

I knew that my daughter had outgrown hers as she started spending more time on the floor when jumping, she wasnt necessary to big for him but she became top heavy and that caused a problem for them.

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19037&d=1372273176

A pic :)
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I'm not sure about ability, as Daughter's ability is sort of dictated by what Dolly is good at doing. Perhaps I've answered my own question there!!!

Clicked on reply before I've looked at your photo....be back in a minute.....

Broke_But_Happy said:
I agree, keep her for the winter but put the word out that she's for sale/loan (?). I'd also agree with the poster who said to get daughter on some of the bigger RS ponies to get used to the step up.
I do think Daughter is looking a bit tall on Dolly now :( and she's probably not finished shooting up like a weed yet!
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I do appreciate your honesty, thank you. I think she'll be ok for the next 6 months, but I anticipate another be growth spurt for Daughter in Spring next year (same as this year) and I think at that point it will be a done deal. Perhaps I should get them past Xmas, and then start making serious progress in the new year? x

debsflo said:
size wise i think you definatley have another year at least. They look fab.
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Thank you xxx

tinap said:
I honestly don't think she's too big for her yet & they could easily do another year together :) xx
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Aw thanks very much xxx

zoelouisem said:
Hello!!!
I have to say on recent pics on FB I've noticed the longer looking legs in a few of the pics and thought it won't be long.
I think realistically come march which is 5 1/2-6 months away daughter could have grown more she is going to look very leggy on her.
And I know Dolly will jump higher but if she wants to go bigger there are going to be fillers under every other fence, so in some ways maybe she has outgrown Dolly's abilities?
If I were you and having been in your shoes ��, I would keep her over the winter with one eye open for a bigger pony but not in a rush so to speak!
On the option of working livery, personally I'd rather sell or full loan loan out. Riding school isn't what I would choose for one of mine but that's just me.
Having been there twice I know what a gut wrenching decision it is but I have to say it has always been the right choice.
Xxxx
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Hi you! I was hoping you'd turn up!!! (you've not got a nice navy jacket Daughter size I can borrow for Sunday and post back down to you next week have you lol!!!!)

I think you know my situation, after Hokey don't you.

And yes, whilst I think Dolly has more to give, you're right about the abilities side of things. I think it's not that Daughter has outgrown her ability wise, I just think she's ready for something different.

It's so hard. I know your thoughts on working livery, but honestly, it's not the same at our yard. I've never seen ponies so well looked after and given such a variety of work. Dolly would be ok, and Daughter would continue to take her out.

Such a hard decision, cutting her legs off might be easier..... ;-)

LauraWheeler said:
I'm probably not much help. (I'm 30 and ride a 12.2hh pony ;) ) I think Daughter still looks ok on Dolly to be honest and they do have so much fun together.
I'd probably put the word out that you may be looking for another pony in the near future and see what comes up then you can concider loaning dolly or selling. Someone may know of a fantasic pony, If not I think D&D have atleast another season together.

Or deff option 3 is worth a try:wink3:
Or how about getting a bigger one who looks just like Dolly (only bigger), Do you think he'd notice you had two (as long as he didn't see them both at the same time lol)

Oh Dear I'm realy not much help am I :p
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hahahahahaha and I knew you'd say that Laura!

No help at all, but thank you!!!! xxxxx

ester said:
Is it feasible to look for a replacement now and sell dolly in spring so daughter gets a bit of crossover time?
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This is the idea I'm favouring at the moment. Need to get working on OH......

***puts on big eyes, pouty face....and sprays to cover horsey smell.....***

Fools Motto said:
I think this is the best idea yet!! Get another Ginger Ninger, only a 14.2 version and no-one will be any the wiser... then D can compete both and be a rider diva! (with top mum groom of course!)
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A 14.2hh version of Dolly.

I'm not sure I could cope......

And I'm still a crap groom...ask Honey08.....she's my font of ***panic night before a show*** knowledge!!! :-)
 
TandD said:
Ignore leg length!!!!! I know a junior eventer who is about 6ft and rides her 14.1 at novice open eventing level.......
If the pony is carrying well don't worry about it...... You need a condiment rider who's had a good season before making that leap up
And that pony will go 2'9 easily! She's a fab little girl and can give a lot to your daughter yet
For that move....wait until spring, see how much your daughter grows as I think you will be looking for something bigger than dolly by then...... I was 12 when I got my 15.3 tb...... Still got him now almost 6 years on!
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Thank you....it's looking like after Xmas is the way to go then isn't it.

And perhaps put the word out before then?

Thanks for your advice xxxx

Clodagh said:
I think your daughter looks fine on her but...
as has been said I would put the word out and wait and see what happens. Am I right your daughter is planning on going up sizewise by 2 hands? That is an awful lot in one step...also presumably to a high powered competition type pony? I would be very careful there about too big a leap both ability and confidence wise. Your daughter is a lovely rider but slowly slowly catchy monkey with the next pony I think. I hope that makes sense, have had both cider and a glass of wine!
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Hi, yes, 2 hands. She's tried 13.2hh - 15hh and the 13 handers looked the same as Dolly (Dolly is full up 12.2hh and a chunky girl so she actually looks bigger than some 13hh ponies). Nothing less than 14hh would really make sense.

If she chooses workers, I've been advised to stay at 14hh. If she wants to SJ or event, then anything up to 14.2hh

Yes, she will be looking for a competition pony, so yes probably forward going.

I know it looks like a setup to be overhorsed. That's probably why the photos are misleading in how much she's grown. She has sprung very long legs and looks good on 14.2hh. It no doubt will be a big step up, but so was Dolly and Daughter is a patient and sensible girl.

Slowly slowly catchy monkey is our way too!

You did make sense, but I've had wine too :-) Thank you xxx
 
I only have a black jacket with purple on it, otherwise I would have done, I've got a blue one in my size but thinking that may be a bit big. 😜.

Yer it's not an easy decision and I remember loading him up thinking what am I doing is it to early but you see on FB what I'm up too and it was so the right choice!!! But I had moments when I thought it wasn't.

Oh I'm sure she will be and I know daughter will still love her and take her out and that but I do think ponies also thrive on that partnership thing that I see with both out girls and their ponies and I would love for Star to have that when Louise moves on with from her, but everybody is different, I also think I'd struggle to see her with somebody else and would interfere far to much if she was on the yard so it wouldn't be a good thing for me. Xxx
 
I would keep her a bit longer but start quietly looking for the next one and for the right home for Dolly to go and do her stuff with her next charge .
She looks like an apsolutly lovely pony and finding her a great new home should not be difficult.
 
zoelouisem said:
I only have a black jacket with purple on it, otherwise I would have done, I've got a blue one in my size but thinking that may be a bit big. ��.

Yer it's not an easy decision and I remember loading him up thinking what am I doing is it to early but you see on FB what I'm up too and it was so the right choice!!! But I had moments when I thought it wasn't.

Oh I'm sure she will be and I know daughter will still love her and take her out and that but I do think ponies also thrive on that partnership thing that I see with both out girls and their ponies and I would love for Star to have that when Louise moves on with from her, but everybody is different, I also think I'd struggle to see her with somebody else and would interfere far to much if she was on the yard so it wouldn't be a good thing for me. Xxx
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Hahahaha thanks anyway re the jacket - we have the navy one with red collar, but it's for showing and that might be a no no!!!!

I wouldn't have a problem with interfering if I still owned Dolly and was just loaning her out....perhaps that wouldn't be a good thing for someone else!! If I sold her, I'd have to butt out but it would be hard!

What do you think about another 3 to 6 months then moving on? I don't want to leave it too late when everyone is setting themselves up for next year's season....

xxx
 
I think Zoelouisemum has said a lot of truth. Dolly will jump higher easily, but the courses will get spookier and trickier, and that's what will catch her out.. I think she is personally at the stage where she needs a pony that will help her move up a level and meet her half way, a pony that has done pc teams and can teach her.

That said, there is no reason why she cannot keep doing the things that she is currently doing with Dolly, same classes, and try some little xc comps next season. She will, without doubt, be even bigger on her by next year though. And the other big factor is that Dolly will be 16, which also makes it that little bit harder to sell her on (having sold our last wonderful pony at 17, a lot less people ring up and will take them on...). But don't fixate on the 12 year age limit - she is only doing local stuff, you're not going to be doing high end showing, so it really doesn't matter...
 
Goldenstar said:
I would keep her a bit longer but start quietly looking for the next one and for the right home for Dolly to go and do her stuff with her next charge .
She looks like an apsolutly lovely pony and finding her a great new home should not be difficult.
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Thank you!

She's quirky, but we love her so much. She's been such a good teacher to my daughter - to see her powering around last night, my heart was in my mouth. She just looked awesome, and I can't bare to part with her when she's giving us what we've asked for, for so long!!!

ARGHHHHH why can't she grow....what, another 8 inches???? It's nothing....

COME ON DOLLY DO IT FOR HHO!!!!!!!
 
You worry about this far too much. She looks no different to the last time everyone told you she looks fine! As others have said this will be the best year she has on the pony as she is truly competent to ride her. Just enjoy it and stop stressing.
 
Honey08 said:
I think Zoelouisemum has said a lot of truth. Dolly will jump higher easily, but the courses will get spookier and trickier, and that's what will catch her out.. I think she is personally at the stage where she needs a pony that will help her move up a level and meet her half way, a pony that has done pc teams and can teach her.

That said, there is no reason why she cannot keep doing the things that she is currently doing with Dolly, same classes, and try some little xc comps next season. She will, without doubt, be even bigger on her by next year though. And the other big factor is that Dolly will be 16, which also makes it that little bit harder to sell her on (having sold our last wonderful pony at 17, a lot less people ring up and will take them on...). But don't fixate on the 12 year age limit - she is only doing local stuff, you're not going to be doing high end showing, so it really doesn't matter...
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Her age is definately a factor to be considered. That's part of why I'm thinking the working livery and loaning, because I can monitor what she does then and adjust to suit her. BUT then I'm back to "what am I keeping her FOR"? She does need a job to do, and perhaps she's done her job with Daughter.

What do you think Honey? After Christmas perhaps? Give them winter for some fun and then perhaps sell her via PC or riding club?

xxx
 
I'd be advertising now while she's on a good one... Leave it on a good note. Photos don't show much sizewise I've found, and I'd trust Honey who has seen them and has done the pony heartbreak of moving on and knows how to do it and when.

If she moves on now, she has the whole winter to find the right buttons and work out how to operate a bigger model. Moving on sucks, but is almost inevitable for competitive young jockeys.
 
FfionWinnie said:
You worry about this far too much. She looks no different to the last time everyone told you she looks fine! As others have said this will be the best year she has on the pony as she is truly competent to ride her. Just enjoy it and stop stressing.
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Hahahahaha never a true word said.

I'm thinking about this constantly, but that's me. Once I get set on something, I don't let go until it's resolved. I'm a nightmare to argue with - I don't mind being right or wrong, but I need to UNDERSTAND and have a resolution!!!!

Daughter is playing with the cats on the living room floor. OH is watching some car fixey uppy program.

Me, I'm on here and looking at early videos of when she was a little dot on Dolly's back being tanked off with!! Where did the time go?????

:-) xxx
 
Oh, I love your threads and as we are going through exactly the same thing with both my daughters I am particularly interested in this one. I don't think your daughter looks too big but it sounds like she might be ready to move on - very nerve wracking isn't it. It's the same for my older daughter, i think she has outgrown her ponies ability although she's not too big on him. She's the same age as mini rm (13 In February) on a 13.1 welsh b. I think we will be looking for about 14.2 and your daughters description of her next pony sounds exactly the same as my daughters!!! My younger daughter is also outgrowing her 11.2 welsh a but she loves mounted games so will do that next year. Think we will wait for spring as I really don't want our pony to go. Keep us posted with updates.
 
redmone said:
Hahahahaha never a true word said.

I'm thinking about this constantly, but that's me. Once I get set on something, I don't let go until it's resolved. I'm a nightmare to argue with - I don't mind being right or wrong, but I need to UNDERSTAND and have a resolution!!!!

Daughter is playing with the cats on the living room floor. OH is watching some car fixey uppy program.

Me, I'm on here and looking at early videos of when she was a little dot on Dolly's back being tanked off with!! Where did the time go?????

:-) xxx
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Of course one can never have too many ponies so you should start looking and have two for a while if you can ;)

My four year old daughter has 4 :D
 
Lolo said:
I'd be advertising now while she's on a good one... Leave it on a good note. Photos don't show much sizewise I've found, and I'd trust Honey who has seen them and has done the pony heartbreak of moving on and knows how to do it and when.

If she moves on now, she has the whole winter to find the right buttons and work out how to operate a bigger model. Moving on sucks, but is almost inevitable for competitive young jockeys.
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Thanks Lolo.

That's probably what I needed to hear. It's so hard though, it wouldn't be as big an issue if Daughter didn't like competing as much.

I bet you all realise why I'm so torn now don't you......

:-)
 
alijanem said:
Oh, I love your threads and as we are going through exactly the same thing with both my daughters I am particularly interested in this one. I don't think your daughter looks too big but it sounds like she might be ready to move on - very nerve wracking isn't it. It's the same for my older daughter, i think she has outgrown her ponies ability although she's not too big on him. She's the same age as mini rm (13 In February) on a 13.1 welsh b. I think we will be looking for about 14.2 and your daughters description of her next pony sounds exactly the same as my daughters!!! My younger daughter is also outgrowing her 11.2 welsh a but she loves mounted games so will do that next year. Think we will wait for spring as I really don't want our pony to go. Keep us posted with updates.
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Are you me???

That all sounds very familiar......!!!!

xxx
 
FfionWinnie said:
Of course one can never have too many ponies so you should start looking and have two for a while if you can ;)

My four year old daughter has 4 :D
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I would really like us to have two just for a little while.....

shhhhhhhh don't tell OH yet.......

edited to say he has 4 motorbikes, why am I whispering!!!!! Oiii OH we want more POOOOOOONIES!!!! :-)
 
If it were me making the choice now I would probably go full steam ahead and find something and advertise straight away but that's just the way I am once I decide it happens, plus would give daughter the winter to get bonded ect ready for the summer!!
I would say in comparing terms daughter more outgrown dolly than Louise had hokey when he went.
I hope this doesn't come across wrongly but not that I think dolly is holding daughter back but if you did get something a little bit less stoppy so to speak that could do bigger tracks, daughter would move up quite quickly which she won't do as much on Dolly. Xxx
 
Yep, it's horrible, especially when a pony has served you well. Henry was our Dolly really, and it took Al a long time to admit she was too tall for him- her feet were past his elbows at XC length!

Al still rides ponies, if that's any consolation for miniRM. Before she went off, she was paid to ride nice ponies (HOYS winners, Pony Euros attendee...) who were as small as 13hh... But she wouldn't do it voluntarily, it's very easy to get decked by a cheeky pony when you're too tall!
 
my new ride is 14.1/14.2 and im 5/7!!! i am tall but shes fine for the job in hand - dressage!!

so no your daughter is not too big for her age 12/13!!! id try the 14.2's though to see how it goes - she may feel differently on board....but shes defo does not look too big for dolly!
 
I think go and enjoy your show next week, then go off on your jollies, put it out of your mind for a few weeks. Then have a think about it when you get back.

Of course, the other option is to buy yourself that farm...!
 
can you stretch to having 2 ponies for 6 months? if so i would start looking for new pony now, give yourself time to find the right one rather than rushing into anything, then you can start weaning Daughter off Dolly while letting her get used to new pony. I personally don't think Daughter looks too big at all right now but if you have it in your head that she soon will be then it's the right time to start looking and making plans. plus now is a good time to start looking as people ship out the old ponies before winter ;) and if all goes to plan you can start advertising Dolly at the end of spring when the nicer weather opens peoples purses :D
 
zoelouisem said:
If it were me making the choice now I would probably go full steam ahead and find something and advertise straight away but that's just the way I am once I decide it happens, plus would give daughter the winter to get bonded ect ready for the summer!!
I would say in comparing terms daughter more outgrown dolly than Louise had hokey when he went.
I hope this doesn't come across wrongly but not that I think dolly is holding daughter back but if you did get something a little bit less stoppy so to speak that could do bigger tracks, daughter would move up quite quickly which she won't do as much on Dolly. Xxx
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Its OK chuck, I know what you're saying.

To be honest I'm very like you, I need everything done yesterday. I think that's why I'm struggling so much with this.

I've never sold a living thing before, I'm finding it hard as I've not come from hardy horsey stock myself! I couldn't sell my cat, so why Dolly???!!!

I'm not good at this am I! :-)
 
I am not remotely maternal.....but you have no idea how much I wash I had a child so I could buy her I LOVE that pony. I think daughter will be ok on her another while....just depends on how much daughter grows over the winter
 
Lolo said:
Yep, it's horrible, especially when a pony has served you well. Henry was our Dolly really, and it took Al a long time to admit she was too tall for him- her feet were past his elbows at XC length!

Al still rides ponies, if that's any consolation for miniRM. Before she went off, she was paid to ride nice ponies (HOYS winners, Pony Euros attendee...) who were as small as 13hh... But she wouldn't do it voluntarily, it's very easy to get decked by a cheeky pony when you're too tall!
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Its quite easy to get decked when you're the right size for them too isnt it!

Maybe we should say sod it and get a 15 hander!!!!

Xxx
 
noodle_ said:
my new ride is 14.1/14.2 and im 5/7!!! i am tall but shes fine for the job in hand - dressage!!

so no your daughter is not too big for her age 12/13!!! id try the 14.2's though to see how it goes - she may feel differently on board....but shes defo does not look too big for dolly!
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Thank you xxxx
 
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